SEO perspectives on having no WWW subdomain.

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  • Socks
    Confirmed User
    • May 2002
    • 8475

    #1

    SEO perspectives on having no WWW subdomain.

    It is pretty useless.. Are there any negatives to dropping the www on a newly launched site?

    The only thing I can think of is that people will still make links to www.domain.com/whatever not realizing you don't use it. While they'll get redirected just fine, is that an issue with the search engines? Do those links "count" just as much?

    Anything else to be concerned about?
  • qxm
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2006
    • 5970

    #2
    when it comes to url canonicalization u might wanna read up on this:

    http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/seo-ad...onicalization/

    Yes, I know it is mattcuts but still a good 5 min read on this topic wouldn't hurt .. would it?!

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    • papill0n
      Unregistered Abuser
      • Oct 2007
      • 15547

      #3
      for someone who is claiming it is 'pretty useless' you sure don't seem very certain Socks

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      • emthree
        Dialer Kingpin
        • Jun 2003
        • 10816

        #4
        .htaccess will fix those issues.

        RewriteEngine on
        RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^www\.domain.com
        rewriterule (.*) http://www.domain.com/$1 [R=permanent,L]

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        • JJdotAM
          Registered User
          • Apr 2009
          • 25

          #5
          I've heard anecdotally search engines prefer www but I can't bring myself to add useless characters

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          • d-null
            . . .
            • Apr 2007
            • 13724

            #6
            Originally posted by JJdotAM
            I've heard anecdotally search engines prefer www but I can't bring myself to add useless characters

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            • SCORE Ralph
              Confirmed User
              • Mar 2003
              • 2090

              #7
              Either one is fine as long as both are not available. Follow emthree's advice regarding the redirect to use either www. or non-www. strictly.
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              • Socks
                Confirmed User
                • May 2002
                • 8475

                #8
                I meant useless being that the www is redundant, and has no effective use.. It's just like a filler subdomain that we've all been accustomed to.

                So to be clear:

                if we start a new site fresh with no www, and we have a page like domain.com/jenny/ and all our links point to that, however, someone with a blog references that and writes their link to http://www.domain.com/jenny/ (and the user gets redirected to the non-www) does that link carry just as much weight, even though they're not technically linking to the proper URL?

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                • 96ukssob
                  So Fucking Banananananas
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 12991

                  #9
                  years ago when i worked at an SEO/SEM agency, one of the "head" SEO guys said that www implied "World Wide Web" while the non www was implied for "local" networks, such as an office, etc., were only a limited amount of people were supposed to have access. so his push was always use www when possible.

                  maybe it was true back in 2003, but who knows.
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                  • dready
                    Confirmed User
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 5247

                    #10
                    WWW is a pain, but it's the correct way to do things. Not sure about SEO, but it's good to maintain internet standards.
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                    • woj
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                      • Jul 2002
                      • 47880

                      #11
                      Everyone else uses www why are you trying to be different?
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                      • rowan
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Mar 2002
                        • 17393

                        #12
                        www designates that host as a web server, just like ftp is an ftp server, mail is a mail server........

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                        • Tempest
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • May 2004
                          • 10217

                          #13
                          I have sites where I've done both and IMO the serach engines prefer that your site has the www . The reason? Probably because "legit" sites have it and so it makes your site appear more legit. I wouldn't be surprised if the SEs give you a slight over optimization penalty for not using it.

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                          • Tempest
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • May 2004
                            • 10217

                            #14
                            Originally posted by rowan
                            www designates that host as a web server, just like ftp is an ftp server, mail is a mail server........
                            Really? LOL. I thought that's what the http did.

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                            • baddog
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Apr 2001
                              • 107089

                              #15
                              As far as SEO is concerned, just be consistent. Either use it or don't.

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                              • SCORE Ralph
                                Confirmed User
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 2090

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Socks
                                if we start a new site fresh with no www, and we have a page like domain.com/jenny/ and all our links point to that, however, someone with a blog references that and writes their link to http://www.domain.com/jenny/ (and the user gets redirected to the non-www) does that link carry just as much weight, even though they're not technically linking to the proper URL?
                                If you're rewriting the URL, yes it will have the same weight and will be clear to SEs what the proper URL is (whether its www. or non-www. or usethis.domain). If you dont rewrite, SEs will see 2 URLs.
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