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sortie 06-21-2009 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 15984485)
A declaration of military force is the same thing to us. We have so much red tape in this country that we have 10 names for the same thing.

It's just BS. No politician wants to be responsible for voting for a war that the American people later find unpopular.

The more civilized a society is the more they hate war so another name is slapped on it so blame can be redirected when things go downhill.

So we like to kill people but our politicians fake like they don't because they
are a bunch of wimps?

mikesinner 06-21-2009 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 15984489)
Do I have to put links to the over 1800 year history of Christian atrocities to people that didn't believe "correctly".

There is no such thing as a peaceful religion. They all have a part in the beginning where God kills all the enemies of his chosen people or the unbelievers.

sortie 06-21-2009 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 15984471)
It could be argued that by using the bomb we prevented any future world wars because everyone knew the crazy Americans were not afraid to use the bomb.

It can also be argued that using the bomb caused a mad dash for every nation in
the world to build one too.

What is the problem we are having with Iran and North Korea right now again?

Hmmmmmmmmm?

mikesinner 06-21-2009 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sortie (Post 15984492)
So we like to kill people but our politicians fake like they don't because they
are a bunch of wimps?

Humans are just animals. War is part of being human. Whether you like it or not we will always have war as long as we have religion and a majority of people following it and as long as we have countries that have dictatorships.

Most people do not like to kill people but if you tell them they are doing it for their God or because the other country is full of evil people that want to kill them it's much easier to talk them into doing it.

That's why very few atheist are willing to go fight in a war.

Do you think you would be able to get Americans to go over to Iraq and fight if %90 of them were Christians?

Politicians fake a lot of things. Do you really believe that all those senators and congressmen believe in God?

%16 of Americans are atheists. The higher up the education ladder you go the higher the percentage of atheists goes up.

The same is true of income. The more money people make the more likely they are to be nonbelievers in any god.

These are some of the smartest and richest people in our society.

J. Falcon 06-21-2009 07:46 PM

Don't post any link, we'll take your word for it.

mikesinner 06-21-2009 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sortie (Post 15984501)
It can also be argued that using the bomb caused a mad dash for every nation in
the world to build one too.

What is the problem we are having with Iran and North Korea right now again?

Hmmmmmmmmm?

I hope you don't go for all that nuclear bomb crap. For a super power nuclear weapons delivered by missiles hasn't been a real threat for many years. Laser technology is way past the development stage. No nuclear missile will ever land in America or Russia.

But, if we wouldn't have used it in WWII it is much more likely that the Russians would have used it in the cold war.

mikesinner 06-21-2009 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 15984529)
Don't post any link, we'll take your word for it.

Can you not use Google?

Pleasurepays 06-21-2009 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 15984489)
Do I have to put links to the over 1800 year history of Christian atrocities to people that didn't believe "correctly".

yeah you fucking dumbass. please start with every incident from 5000B.C. to today to draw parallels to contemporary standards of behavior and contemporary law and human rights.

from there, you can fall back on your standard idiotic tactic of showing someone else abusing peoples human rights as if the incidents in question are ok.

sortie 06-21-2009 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 15984544)
yeah you fucking dumbass. please start with every incident from 5000B.C. to today to draw parallels to contemporary standards of behavior and contemporary law and human rights.

from there, you can fall back on your standard idiotic tactic of showing someone else abusing peoples human rights as if the incidents in question are ok.

Good point he should have just gone back to 1992 :



https://youtube.com/watch?v=eI3RbosK-Pw

Hank_Heartland 06-21-2009 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Right (Post 15983720)
Got to love jew-controlled media..

FauxNews FTW.

Yeah, we know...the media did it:321GFY

weekly 06-21-2009 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 15984446)
In the last two pics we had already declared war. There is a huge difference between that and killing your own people.

The U.S. never officially declared war and some of those people, I believe were on the US side in the American War as the Viet Namese call it. Better get your history straight.

sortie 06-21-2009 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 15984530)
I hope you don't go for all that nuclear bomb crap. For a super power nuclear weapons delivered by missiles hasn't been a real threat for many years. Laser technology is way past the development stage. No nuclear missile will ever land in America or Russia.

But, if we wouldn't have used it in WWII it is much more likely that the Russians would have used it in the cold war.

I'm not going for that crap, you are!!!!!!!

That's the shit that Faux News sold you. :1orglaugh

Regarding Russia using it : Yeah because that would have made it easier for them to
control the other half of Germany. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

mikesinner 06-21-2009 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sortie (Post 15984554)
Good point he should have just gone back to 1992 :



https://youtube.com/watch?v=eI3RbosK-Pw

What other point does that video make other than most cops are just idiots that barely have a high school education?

weekly 06-21-2009 08:08 PM

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No nuclear missile will ever land in America or Russia.
LOL, you don't know that. The real threat is in the submarine force and if just one boomer lets off near the coast of America or Russia, no one will have time to stop them. They are virtually undetectable till launch time and it is minutes before they blow the shit out of everything they are targetted at.

mikesinner 06-21-2009 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by weekly (Post 15984561)
The U.S. never officially declared war and some of those people, I believe were on the US side in the American War as the Viet Namese call it. Better get your history straight.

WWII was a declared war. Iraq was an authorization of military force which is just a PC term for war. There is really not that much difference.

sortie 06-21-2009 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 15984568)
What other point does that video make other than most cops are just idiots that barely have a high school education?

Those cops work for the government, that is the government doing that.
And the people approved that by acquitting all the cops in the criminal trial.

So you claim the Iranian government dropped acid; but why are they not just a few
idiot cops when it happens in Iran?

When cops in Iran, China, N. Korea...etc do something then you come to the board
blaming the government.

Hmmmmmmm???

weekly 06-21-2009 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 15984572)
WWII was a declared war. Iraq was an authorization of military force which is just a PC term for war. There is really not that much difference.

By those standards, the war in Korea is still on. However the original argument stands. They were still killing the people they were there to help. The first picture was just a current flavor of years of oppression in the United States. Hell the Civil War trumps all that shit. It was the first use of the machine gun, one of the most deadly weapons in history, if not the most deadly. Oh yeah, and the Indian massacres are right up there as well.

mikesinner 06-21-2009 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by weekly (Post 15984570)
LOL, you don't know that. The real threat is in the submarine force and if just one boomer lets off near the coast of America or Russia, no one will have time to stop them. They are virtually undetectable till launch time and it is minutes before they blow the shit out of everything they are targetted at.

Where would it come from? It won't come from the U.S or Russia. China is the biggest threat and I really don't think they are going to start something with us when we owe them so much money.

Russia an America are actually pretty buddy buddy behind the scenes. Most of the hype made up on the news is fabricated so we can both keep building up our military technology to fight off the smaller radical countries that really want to use their nuclear weapons. It's the way the world is now. The future is all about antimissile tech. It's much easier to build a small rocket that can obliterate a larger missile or a laser that turns it to dust.

Hank_Heartland 06-21-2009 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by weekly (Post 15984561)
The U.S. never officially declared war and some of those people, I believe were on the US side in the American War as the Viet Namese call it. Better get your history straight.

Vietnam was not a war but a "police action" or "undeclared war" and Iraq was declared a war after the fact and we needed to keep funding it:thumbsup

mikesinner 06-21-2009 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sortie (Post 15984583)
Those cops work for the government, that is the government doing that.
And the people approved that by acquitting all the cops in the criminal trial.

So you claim the Iranian government dropped acid; but why are they not just a few
idiot cops when it happens in Iran?

When cops in Iran, China, N. Korea...etc do something then you come to the board
blaming the government.

Hmmmmmmm???

The difference is that in America you get your day in court and maybe the guy shot a cop or pulled a gun. That would be found out in court and believe it or not a lot of people would acquit the policemen involved if that was the case because the jury would look at that guy as criminal scum. I seriously doubt all those cops got off with nothing though.

The difference is that in places like Iran and N Korea if that happened nothing would happen to the cops involved.

mikesinner 06-21-2009 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank_Heartland (Post 15984592)
Vietnam was not a war but a "police action" or "undeclared war" and Iraq was declared a war after the fact and we needed to keep funding it:thumbsup

ya, I am no fan of the Iraq war but I'm just saying it's apples an oranges. It's still a war no matter what you call it.

topnotch, standup guy 06-21-2009 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sortie (Post 15984501)
It can also be argued that using the bomb caused a mad dash for every nation in
the world to build one too.

What is the problem we are having with Iran and North Korea right now again?

Hmmmmmmmmm?

The same problem most civilized societies have with giving handgun permits to mental defectives.

Even Joseph Stalin, who killed millions of his own people, knew better than to start lobbing nuclear weapons at his neighbors. I'm not so sure I can say the same about the wingnuts currently ruling Iran and North Korea.

sortie 06-21-2009 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 15984599)
The difference is that in America you get your day in court and maybe the guy shot a cop or pulled a gun. That would be found out in court and believe it or not a lot of people would acquit the policemen involved if that was the case because the jury would look at that guy as criminal scum. I seriously doubt all those cops got off with nothing though.

The difference is that in places like Iran and N Korea if that happened nothing would happen to the cops involved.

You're a fucking idiot if you don't believe that all the cops in the Rodney King
beating were found not guilty. You stupid fuck! That's what started the LA riot!

I'm debating with a complete idiot I see.

WTF! You lost all possible credibility when you suggested that R. King shot a cop
or had a gun.

sortie 06-21-2009 08:44 PM

The R King cops did go back to trial after the riot and were found guilty.

But it took a fucking city to be burned almost to the ground first.

sortie 06-21-2009 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy (Post 15984610)
The same problem most civilized societies have with giving handgun permits to mental defectives.

Even Joseph Stalin, who killed millions of his own people, knew better than to start lobbing nuclear weapons at his neighbors. I'm not so sure I can say the same about the wingnuts currently ruling Iran and North Korea.

Why does it escape you that the USA is the only one to ever use the bomb
and did it twice.

It's like a bunch of fucking crooks complaining about the possibility of somebody
being a crook.

mikesinner 06-21-2009 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sortie (Post 15984634)
You're a fucking idiot if you don't believe that all the cops in the Rodney King
beating were found not guilty. You stupid fuck! That's what started the LA riot!

I'm debating with a complete idiot I see.

WTF! You lost all possible credibility when you suggested that R. King shot a cop
or had a gun.

You need to read the whole R. King story. He was not just some innocent bystander that was beaten for no reason

GatorB 06-21-2009 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 15984544)
yeah you fucking dumbass. please start with every incident from 5000B.C. to today to draw parallels to contemporary standards of behavior and contemporary law and human rights.

from there, you can fall back on your standard idiotic tactic of showing someone else abusing peoples human rights as if the incidents in question are ok.

Did I say anyhting was OK. I'm just tired of Christians acting as if they are oh so perfect and never did anything wrong. Is Islam a religion of peace and tolerance? It doesn't appear to be. Is Christianity. Nope. Didn't some guy just kill an abortion doctor in the name of Jesus? Thre fatc is the overwhemlingly vast majority of murers, rapists, child molesters and every other criminal believe in some sort of higher power. Whether that be God, Allah, or whatever.

sortie 06-21-2009 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 15984705)
You need to read the whole R. King story. He was not just some innocent bystander that was beaten for no reason

Yes, he had a prior criminal record and was speeding.

He was beaten because he did not pull over for the cops right away and continued
to speed.

And I don't need to read it, I lived in LA then and road out the riots in my Hollywood
apartment.

But I like how you are trying to justify the beating just like the low lives in Semi-valley
that were on the jury.

So why don't you just try justifying dropping acid the same way and then STFU.

Maybe them protester are speeding too.

mikesinner 06-21-2009 09:29 PM

BTW, have you ever even read the wikipedia article about the King Arrest? I'm surprised they didn't shoot him. If you're stupid enough to resist arrest after speeding while drunk and on PCP you deserve to get the shit beat out of you.

What are you suppose to do with people like that?

PCP explains why he resisted the taser. If I was a cop and I tasered someone twice and they got back up I would be scared shitless and I'd do whatever I could to get him to stay down. The only thing they did wrong was keep beating him after the first 5 seconds.

Sly 06-21-2009 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 15984734)
BTW, have you ever even read the wikipedia article about the King Arrest? I'm surprised they didn't shoot him. If you're stupid enough to resist arrest after speeding while drunk and on PCP you deserve to get the shit beat out of you.

What are you suppose to do with people like that?

Threaten sanctions.

Oh, wrong incident.

sortie 06-21-2009 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 15984713)
Didn't some guy just kill an abortion doctor in the name of Jesus?

Oh no, because he was a "Lone Wolf". :1orglaugh

It's so neat how Christians can isolate the evil they commit within their ranks but
just one case by a Muslim is a conviction of the entire religion.

D Ghost 06-21-2009 09:43 PM

is there a source for this information?

also, is this any different than people getting sprayed with mace? tasered? shot? or tortured?

sortie 06-21-2009 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 15984734)
BTW, have you ever even read the wikipedia article about the King Arrest? I'm surprised they didn't shoot him. If you're stupid enough to resist arrest after speeding while drunk and on PCP you deserve to get the shit beat out of you.

What are you suppose to do with people like that?

PCP explains why he resisted the taser. If I was a cop and I tasered someone twice and they got back up I would be scared shitless and I'd do whatever I could to get him to stay down. The only thing they did wrong was keep beating him after the first 5 seconds.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Wiki is written by who?
A bunch of yahoo hillbillies that love watching blacks get beat by cops.
Cops are probably writing in the dumb shit too.

The pigs got convicted in federal court on violating Kings civil rights and you think
that happened because everyone except you is dumb. Ok.

It took a riot to get them back in court to finally get convicted and it would take
a riot in your face to make you actually use your brains.

I lived through the trial. I lived through the riot.
I know what happened.

You're just an angry white person.

You hate muslims, blacks and probably jews too.

Grow the fuck up.

weekly 06-21-2009 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 15984572)
WWII was a declared war. Iraq was an authorization of military force which is just a PC term for war. There is really not that much difference.

What exactly was the Viet Nam war then?

weekly 06-21-2009 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 15984589)
Where would it come from? It won't come from the U.S or Russia. China is the biggest threat and I really don't think they are going to start something with us when we owe them so much money.

Russia an America are actually pretty buddy buddy behind the scenes. Most of the hype made up on the news is fabricated so we can both keep building up our military technology to fight off the smaller radical countries that really want to use their nuclear weapons. It's the way the world is now. The future is all about antimissile tech. It's much easier to build a small rocket that can obliterate a larger missile or a laser that turns it to dust.


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Russia an America are actually pretty buddy buddy behind the scenes.
Bullshit. Russia is run by Putin. Putin is KGB. Putin has a huge cult of personality growing daily. The Russian government is a mob, the first Mafia that has ever had access to nuclear, chemical, and bio weapons. Look what he did to that Ukranian leader he poisoned. Look how he threatened Europe when he cut gas supplies to the Ukraine in a bitter winter and brought them to their knees. Look what he did in that Moscow theater massacre with those crazy Chechins. He is evil. Do not fool yourself thinking there is any kind of back channel love...pun intended...by either side.

Blingbaby 06-21-2009 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by oldboy (Post 15983803)
"One nation under God"

One nation under a Jew God

voa 06-22-2009 01:52 AM

That is really scary they are ready to kill your own people just to keep their positions

mikesinner 06-22-2009 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by weekly (Post 15984820)
Bullshit. Russia is run by Putin. Putin is KGB. Putin has a huge cult of personality growing daily. The Russian government is a mob, the first Mafia that has ever had access to nuclear, chemical, and bio weapons. Look what he did to that Ukranian leader he poisoned. Look how he threatened Europe when he cut gas supplies to the Ukraine in a bitter winter and brought them to their knees. Look what he did in that Moscow theater massacre with those crazy Chechins. He is evil. Do not fool yourself thinking there is any kind of back channel love...pun intended...by either side.

I didn't say Putin was a great guy. But Russian relations are at the best they have ever been in history except for maybe before Sept 11.

mikesinner 06-22-2009 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by sortie (Post 15984769)
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Wiki is written by who?
A bunch of yahoo hillbillies that love watching blacks get beat by cops.
Cops are probably writing in the dumb shit too.

The pigs got convicted in federal court on violating Kings civil rights and you think
that happened because everyone except you is dumb. Ok.

It took a riot to get them back in court to finally get convicted and it would take
a riot in your face to make you actually use your brains.

I lived through the trial. I lived through the riot.
I know what happened.

You're just an angry white person.

You hate muslims, blacks and probably jews too.

Grow the fuck up.

Wikepedia is a lot more accurate than getting your info from Google. The first ten pages of Google are usually full of BS. Most intelligent people don't use it as their primary source of information. Years of webmaster spam for keywords have brought it to this point.

Wikepedia only lets experts in their fields right articles. Many of them are written by college professors. It's not always %100 accurate but compared to most online sources you can take it to the bank.


And your obviously an angry black person. I'm sorry that the white man has held your people down but that just means you have to work harder, not use it as an excuse for why people break laws.

Blazed 06-22-2009 03:47 AM

http://www.jennifer-eccleston.com/je...ck_and_awe.jpg

Only in America. :Oh crap


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