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200 Google bans
edit : make that 202
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Apparently you are not very familiar with tgp scripts?
ST = Smart thumbs (manages galleries)
AGS = Autogallery SQL (manages thumbnails/galleries like ST)
UCJ, ATX, AT3 etc = Trade script, the one that actually manages the skimming etc.
So, the sites that use ST + trade script are affected
The sites using AGS + trade script are NOT affected.
So the actual 'skimming' part which you seemed to think is the root of all evil has 0 effect, so far..but the script that manages the galleries may be the culprit...and I'm off.Comment
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Godsmack is a great guy and will try to sort this out for everyone.Comment
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I am actually somewhat familiar, don't get too ahead of yourself there Chachi.
I may have been wrong with the initial post, however we come down to the ugly /st/ issue. It could be possibly an issue with the way you mange YOUR galleries. It could also be that someone picked up on the way THIS is done. It is a myriad of a cluster fuck.
I'm not #1 in this department but I am trying to help a situation that does not effect me what so ever. I honestly wish everybody the best of luck from the bottom of my heart. Anytime people's livelihood gets kicked in the cunt, it hurts everyone. It filters down.............................................. ........................... ............................
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And just to clarify, I am not saying that everyone affected had anything to do with ( http://www.smart-scripts.com/?action...uvtubsrqn6irk3 )
I'm saying that when a company that creates a script such as the one linked above, and people use it, well.... the ban hammer comes down. It's nothing personal, it's Google's way of saying "enough is enough" with your crap.
Remember, they have people that actually work over there too. It's not all about robots.Comment
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That script sounds just like openx, except openx is free and doesn't fuck up ya google stuffs (not saying smart spots does).“If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”Comment
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You ST guys might want to consider putting a rel="nofollow" on all your gallery links.Comment
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btw, i run 10 sites, 7 of them are using ST, 2 of them are using TGPX and one site using comus thumbs. 6 out of 7 ST sites are thumb MGPs and they are penalized. One ST site is a text MGP and it's not penalized. Two sites with TGPX aren't penalized and one site with comus thumbs is not penalized too. All 10 sites are using linkex to add/remove hardlinks at the bottom.SteelArtComment
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“If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”Comment
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Too bad for those of you running ST. I wonder if this is just a "1st faze" of some bigger knock on sites using scripts to trade traffic and links.
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I think I just stumbled upon the best theory... Thanks to http://www.scarecrowmovies.com/ for posting his logs online.
There are a lot of pharmacy spammers that are using st.php to get to their URL's...
Example:
http://www.scarecrowmovies.com/st/st.../mirror/32238/
So I believe Google decided to screw anyone with st.php and url on the page. This doesn't mean other scripts are not susceptible to this same attack. It just means some Russian idiot decided to target ST since it is the most widely available script.Comment
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.htaccess
Code:deny from all
“If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”Comment
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Mmmmm, okay thenI'm just a newbie.Comment
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personally i think its the first time in 8 years online i see people blaming script for SEO ranking i see some sites droped i see some sites up or stayed and all using ST , just because its a great and many people using it and thats the reason many got affected, but before blaming the script
have you checked if the guys that still on top
1) working harder on their links ?
2) hand written gallery descs ( and not duplicate as on other 10000's sites )
3) adding additional content on the site except same gals as 10000's others
4) SEO friendly html
5) SEO friendly site structure
the list of things can be endless, but one thing is sure if you do get penalty its because of the CONTENT and not the content manager
i've seen people complaining on mainstream boards too , and none of them even heard of ST so.... Content is still the king as always ;)Comment
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It looks like the Smart Thumbs guys are being very proactive on this issue and will hopefully have an update out shortly. They said they will be starting testing on it tomorrow.ICQ: 91139591Comment
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almost everybody know that google dont like blogs on RSS and yet nobody keep blaiming WP
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Horrible news, I hope this gets sorted out soon. My TGP's got owned too =(Nick "Meeper" Amoroso
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I said it back a few pages but I'll say it again. I have 15 tgps that are all my galleries meaning i don't allow submits and use hosted galleries and a nice mix of galleries i make up by hand.personally i think its the first time in 8 years online i see people blaming script for SEO ranking i see some sites droped i see some sites up or stayed and all using ST , just because its a great and many people using it and thats the reason many got affected, but before blaming the script
have you checked if the guys that still on top
1) working harder on their links ?
2) hand written gallery descs ( and not duplicate as on other 10000's sites )
3) adding additional content on the site except same gals as 10000's others
4) SEO friendly html
5) SEO friendly site structure
the list of things can be endless, but one thing is sure if you do get penalty its because of the CONTENT and not the content manager
i've seen people complaining on mainstream boards too , and none of them even heard of ST so.... Content is still the king as always ;)
Now 13 of the 15 don't skim traffic and have no tgp software, just a 7 day rotation of galleries via php code i set up. The 2 newest ones are Smart thumbs and are about 2 mos old. Untill the other day they both owned the number one spot on google for their site's names but now are both on page 6. Now the thing that tells me that it's this script getting banned is now 5 of my other 13 sites are listed on the first page of searches for one other banned smart thumbs sites.Comment
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I checked my sites with Google webmaster tools and everything says it's ok !
It's sure this is bulk penalty regardless all sites running ST script ... what can we do now ? Wait or act by writing petition to Google webmasters board to change the penalty rule ?
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my advice to all
if you think your site absolutely perfect for SEO and there is nothing else you can improve so go ahead and change script, but if you do have at least 1 small idea of what need to be changed go ahead and improve your site , spent your time to get better ,and stop look for who to blameComment
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If anyone needs help with it, I know exactly what you need to do to at least partially come back up.
Email me if you need help.Comment
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If true then that sucks as there's no good way to block it. i.e. if you use mod_rewrite to only allow your domain as the referer then you loose all the people surfing with no referer. Everyone could rename st.php to something random I suppose. Or perhaps a "session" key inserted into the url but that would have to come from smart scripts.Comment
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google is not targeting specific scripts. they certainly aren't going out of their way to improve adult porn results with manual tweaks to target specific people using specific scripts.Comment
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Going by the Google /st/ filter theory, any ST-based site that is not affected by the filter should be analyzed and compared to those that are... Like the Outbreak monkey: it's a carrier, but it's not affected by the virus.
Now we need to dissect these surviving ST sites and create an antidote serum from them... quick, hurry, there's not much time! Get on the chopper!
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