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  • uno
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    • Dec 2002
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    #101
    Originally posted by StickyGreen
    Is it just a coincidence that all these ST sites are dropping in ranks?

    Or could there be something else in common between all these dropped sites that we aren't thinking of?
    It's obviously an illuminati/bilderberg/lizard people conspiracy.
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    • Blackamooka
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      • Nov 2008
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      #102
      Originally posted by uno
      It's obviously an illuminati/bilderberg/lizard people conspiracy.
      Don't forget 9/11.
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      • arock10
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        • Jan 2006
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        #103
        unique linking structure ftw
        Sup

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        • Pleasurepays
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          • Aug 2002
          • 11913

          #104
          no one is blaming Bush yet?

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          • uno
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            • Dec 2002
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            #105
            Originally posted by Pleasurepays
            no one is blaming Bush yet?
            Sorry, I thought that was implied without saying as his father is a well known lizard person.
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            • Webmaster Army
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              #106
              Originally posted by Jdoughs
              That is a shitty link, it tells nothing about what happened.

              The -60 penalty is associated with bad inbound links, purchased links, or link farms(too many outbounds).
              Huh? Multiple things in that list are things just about any TGP would not pass on. Did you even read it?
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              • Pleasurepays
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                • Aug 2002
                • 11913

                #107
                Originally posted by uno
                Sorry, I thought that was implied without saying as his father is a well known lizard person.
                According to Phillip Schneider, we've worked everything out with the lizard people and all is good. (well... except for Phillip's untimely death)

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b5Ea3dgK3c

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbONIQfQmDU

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srX0lNQ6Kb0

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                • arock10
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                  • Jan 2006
                  • 6217

                  #108
                  google wasted a bunch of video dump sites last year at the end of the summer, I guess this year ST and a few misc other sites got it

                  and yes, I still havent gotten my 30k a day back so suck it up
                  Sup

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                  • Agent 488
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                    • Feb 2006
                    • 22511

                    #109
                    don't fuck with Phillip Schneider - he shot grey aliens in an underground base or whatever.

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                    • Agent 488
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                      • Feb 2006
                      • 22511

                      #110
                      anyone selling any smart thumbs licences?

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                      • Pleasurepays
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                        • Aug 2002
                        • 11913

                        #111
                        Originally posted by budsbabes
                        don't fuck with Phillip Schneider - he shot grey aliens in an underground base or whatever.
                        he was also shot by an alien... resulting in wounds which oddly enough... looked a lot like an explosives accident resulting in burns to his chest and taking off some fingers... and coincidentally, he was a demolitions expert.

                        riveting stuff!

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                        • Agent 488
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                          • Feb 2006
                          • 22511

                          #112
                          huh? it's just some article i found on the fly but everything you said there is covered in the article as what to avoid.

                          Originally posted by Jdoughs
                          That is a shitty link, it tells nothing about what happened.

                          The -60 penalty is associated with bad inbound links, purchased links, or link farms(too many outbounds).

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                          • Pleasurepays
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                            • Aug 2002
                            • 11913

                            #113
                            and if i recall.. he shot an alien, in their under ground civilization with a Walther PPK - or the same pistol that James Bond used.

                            amazing stuff!!

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                            • Agent 488
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                              • Feb 2006
                              • 22511

                              #114
                              well we may have a lead on who wired up the twin towers.

                              Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                              he was also shot by an alien... resulting in wounds which oddly enough... looked a lot like an explosives accident resulting in burns to his chest and taking off some fingers... and coincidentally, he was a demolitions expert.

                              riveting stuff!

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                              • Shoplifter
                                Richest man in Babylon
                                • Jan 2002
                                • 5848

                                #115
                                Well this is going to ripple through the industry...

                                Gonna hear some big crying next week from everyone if this doesn't revert.
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                                • Agent 488
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                                  • Feb 2006
                                  • 22511

                                  #116
                                  can't say what happened in your case arock - but i ran a link anchor check on most of the sites over at iq that got penalized and they never varied their anchor text - always assumed that's why they were penalzied - though of course i may be wrong.

                                  Originally posted by arock10
                                  google wasted a bunch of video dump sites last year at the end of the summer, I guess this year ST and a few misc other sites got it

                                  and yes, I still havent gotten my 30k a day back so suck it up

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                                  • Jdoughs
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                                    • Mar 2004
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                                    #117
                                    Originally posted by Webmaster Army
                                    Huh? Multiple things in that list are things just about any TGP would not pass on. Did you even read it?
                                    Of course I read it. And its just another post made by some fucktard telling people the most standard of SEO advice.

                                    There is no meat in that post.

                                    By the way, I didn't lose any serps, I gained some, and have pulled more then a few domains out of penalty, I'm not just talking out of my ass here.

                                    I called this one well over 24 hrs ago and knew the penalty and particulars. And I'm not posting in numerous of these threads on numerous boards to talk shit, I'm just offering experienced advice.
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                                    • the Shemp
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                                      • Nov 2001
                                      • 10891

                                      #118
                                      Originally posted by dready
                                      It seems at 1pm EST yesterday, a LOT of TGPs running ST saw their SERPs drop big time. Pretty much anyone that had a keyword on page 1 saw it drop to page 6.

                                      The only TGPs I see in top 10s now are running obscure scripts, or something custom.

                                      Seriously upset here... anyone else seeing this?
                                      that's a shame ...
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                                      • geedub
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                                        • Jun 2005
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                                        #119
                                        whats up team smart script?
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                                        • KillerK
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                                          • May 2008
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                                          #120
                                          no word from the author?

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                                          • MoreMagic
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                                            • Feb 2006
                                            • 2851

                                            #121
                                            Iframe can become your friend here.....................................

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                                            • cosis
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                                              • Aug 2001
                                              • 5292

                                              #122
                                              Originally posted by d-null
                                              the sad truth


                                              but make "illegal" tubes, because google will love them more than the legal ones pretty soon when all the "legal" ones with sponsor hosted 2 minute clips will end up getting this kind of page 6 google penalty

                                              it is a sick internet world we live in
                                              legal tubes are a waste of time

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                                              • Doctor Feelgood
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                                                • Nov 2005
                                                • 2112

                                                #123
                                                Originally posted by stevo
                                                I use AutoGallery SQL, my search engine traffic has increased 5x just from today...
                                                no change here

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                                                • Agent 488
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                                                  • Feb 2006
                                                  • 22511

                                                  #124
                                                  i just looked at a serp i had been shooting for. it used to be like tpgs a blog and a tube now there are no tgps just a tubes, linklists and blogs

                                                  would be odd is the google update that has been rolling out since the beginning of the month kills off all tgps.

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                                                  • GAMEFINEST
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                                                    • Nov 2006
                                                    • 14478

                                                    #125
                                                    that is not good biz
                                                    Compound interest.

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                                                    • Godsmack
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                                                      • Apr 2004
                                                      • 4525

                                                      #126
                                                      I lost over 70k google! we have no clue why this happens like everyone else...if we know why this happens we may find some fix for it. Also i wanna say that it's a bit too easy putting the blame on ST unless we know exactly whats happening.
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                                                      • blazin
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                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                        • 2781

                                                        #127
                                                        Yeah I had a site that was the first search result drop to the 4th page
                                                        I don't endorse a god damn thing......

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                                                        • shermo

                                                          #128
                                                          I lost some BIG SERPs, and was running ALL paid licenses of ST. Each of the sites dropped completely. Who has a solution in place that is willing to work with me over the weekend to get converted?

                                                          I may have to go from TGP to legal tube if this doesn't return to normal (which I do not prefer to do). The odd thing is that I NEVER used the auto import tool, all of my galleries were custom added, and I wasn't running archives (just a single page).

                                                          If anybody hears anything else, I'd love to hear from you.

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                                                          • MoreMagic
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                                                            • Feb 2006
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                                                            #129
                                                            Last time i say it.......

                                                            Originally posted by MoreMagic
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                                                            • Trax
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                                                              • Aug 2001
                                                              • 14486

                                                              #130
                                                              smartthumbs just officially died
                                                              pretty fucked up

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                                                              • Ecchi22
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                                                                • Nov 2005
                                                                • 10012

                                                                #131
                                                                Damn I'm not using smart thumbs, but my friend is affected.. He was #1 for one popular keyword, now I can't see his website on 1st page on google :/

                                                                This sucks a lot. Really big change in just one day

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                                                                • hjnet
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                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                  • 3815

                                                                  #132
                                                                  Originally posted by MoreMagic
                                                                  Last time i say it.......
                                                                  Well, tell us the details, how, why, and where to read about it

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                                                                  • Zorgman
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                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                    • 6103

                                                                    #133
                                                                    wow, thats got to suck. Wouldn't wish that on anyone, for the most part, SE traffic is our income, take it away and we're sucking eggs.
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                                                                    • hribar81
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                                                                      • Jan 2006
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                                                                      #134
                                                                      Originally posted by mobilefun1987
                                                                      who?.....
                                                                      I do. This sucks big time...

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                                                                      • idtapdat
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                                                                        #135
                                                                        yea this is brutal.........
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                                                                        • master_design
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                                                                          #136
                                                                          wow that sucks

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                                                                          • Si
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                                                                            #137
                                                                            Originally posted by hribar81
                                                                            I do. This sucks big time...
                                                                            seems a lot do aswell

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                                                                            • dready
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                                                                              • Oct 2002
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                                                                              #138
                                                                              Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                                                                              and if i recall.. he shot an alien, in their under ground civilization with a Walther PPK - or the same pistol that James Bond used.

                                                                              amazing stuff!!
                                                                              I've met that guy before. He's quite the storyteller.
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                                                                              • Pleasurepays
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                                                                                • Aug 2002
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                                                                                #139
                                                                                Originally posted by dready
                                                                                I've met that guy before. He's quite the storyteller.
                                                                                really? that's kind of fascinating to me. i mean i think he was a lunatic and full of shit.. but at the same time, i think it would be sort of interesting and sobering to sit in a room full of people and listen to all that... looking around seeing everyone stare in total amazement.

                                                                                how did you meet him? at a speaking engagement?

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                                                                                • dready
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                                                                                  #140
                                                                                  Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                                                                                  really? that's kind of fascinating to me. i mean i think he was a lunatic and full of shit.. but at the same time, i think it would be sort of interesting and sobering to sit in a room full of people and listen to all that... looking around seeing everyone stare in total amazement.

                                                                                  how did you meet him? at a speaking engagement?
                                                                                  Yeah, about 10 years ago at a convention. I chatted with him briefly after. He makes it sound pretty believable, but I agree, he's a nutbar.
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                                                                                  • TheSenator
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                                                                                    • Feb 2003
                                                                                    • 13340

                                                                                    #141
                                                                                    This is fucked up!

                                                                                    This is my analysis....

                                                                                    I think a few bad apples using Smart Thumb used exploits. I remember cruising Google for key phrases and would come across TGPs that would lock you in until you clicked or download something. The site would eventually die a quick death but another would pop right back up with these exploits.

                                                                                    Google's algorithm couldn't keep up because Google bot would be re-directed to a clean version of the site. My theory is that Google did a manual manipulation of its search algorithm to throw back sites using Smart Thumbs. The bad apples using Smart Thumbs cause this Google backlash.

                                                                                    or I could be completely wrong....
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                                                                                    • Pleasurepays
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                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                      • 11913

                                                                                      #142
                                                                                      Originally posted by TheSenator
                                                                                      This is fucked up!

                                                                                      This is my analysis....

                                                                                      I think a few bad apples using Smart Thumb used exploits. I remember cruising Google for key phrases and would come across TGPs that would lock you in until you clicked or download something. The site would eventually die a quick death but another would pop right back up with these exploits.

                                                                                      Google's algorithm couldn't keep up because Google bot would be re-directed to a clean version of the site. My theory is that Google did a manual manipulation of its search algorithm to throw back sites using Smart Thumbs. The bad apples using Smart Thumbs cause this Google backlash.

                                                                                      or I could be completely wrong....
                                                                                      yes! google is super concerned with relevant porn results. nothing they hate more than having a surfer typein "asian ladyboys sucking assholes" and getting mixed results back.

                                                                                      they don't manually manipulate results. they just don't. they don't look at 1.5 trillion stored pages and try to figure out how to improve the results for "donkey fucked teens"

                                                                                      that's not how search engines work... and its self defeating if you have to manually create good results vs find a tweak to algorithmically produce the best results. further, looking in that direction doesn't give you a solution (although it would be quite expected for everyone to jump on the "there's nothing i can do and its not my fault" bandwagon which is popular in porn)

                                                                                      since i have free ST sites with ZERO outbound links and NOTHING going on that also ended up getting penalized, i would suggest again that it has to with the smart thumbs link and how those links link to other sites. its not about whether a site has it or not (paid or free version).. its about those sites, and who's linking to who and the general link matrix itself.

                                                                                      there is ZERO contextual relevance between "smart thumbs" and "naked midgets" and the these sites are typically shitty, low quality sites that look EXACTLY like an auto generated link farm from a search engines eyes without a decent number of quality back links. Just pages with zero info with 100's of outbound links per page. linking to what can be considered a spam site can hurt you just as much as having your own network of spam sites interlinked can hurt you. having a "clean site" that gets penalized tells you that you should also be looking at your link trades and who you are trading hard links with. you'll find that your "clean site" suddenly just got a little dirtier.

                                                                                      why is this happening for sure? who knows. i personally dont care enough to figure it out because the TGP model in its traditional form is 100% doomed to fail no matter what. we used ST to put domains live that we might develop in 3-4 months.

                                                                                      all people have to do is start posting domains, start making lists of the commonalities and start trouble shooting... or do that with your own networks. but of course, this biz is too backwards for that to happen it could be that there are some common hardlink trades that are causing this... could be a lot of things. it simply requires a methodical approach to building a list of common factors and then determining which can/cannot be ruled out... and then looking at the remaining factors and testing.

                                                                                      you already have a strong lead... it seems to be affecting ST sites. so you've already narrowed it down from around 1.5 million domains to 1000's.
                                                                                      Last edited by Pleasurepays; 06-20-2009, 09:33 AM.

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                                                                                      • 1200mics
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                                                                                        • Sep 2005
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                                                                                        #143
                                                                                        Wow looks like i lost more then 50% of my traffic
                                                                                        I guess the only thing we could do is ask Google in webmasters central and try to make ST script more seo friendly ?

                                                                                        We will need much luck and health to overcome this .. so good luck all Smart thumbers :thumbs up:

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                                                                                        • sortie
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                                                                                          • Mar 2007
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                                                                                          #144
                                                                                          Originally posted by TheSenator
                                                                                          This is fucked up!

                                                                                          This is my analysis....

                                                                                          I think a few bad apples using Smart Thumb used exploits. I remember cruising Google for key phrases and would come across TGPs that would lock you in until you clicked or download something. The site would eventually die a quick death but another would pop right back up with these exploits.

                                                                                          Google's algorithm couldn't keep up because Google bot would be re-directed to a clean version of the site. My theory is that Google did a manual manipulation of its search algorithm to throw back sites using Smart Thumbs. The bad apples using Smart Thumbs cause this Google backlash.

                                                                                          or I could be completely wrong....
                                                                                          You could be but you ain't!

                                                                                          This non-sense about the back link to smart thumbs causing a problem is bullshit,
                                                                                          especially considering that smart thumbs still comes up #1 on the first page.

                                                                                          http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=smart...fp=leBsIIJAIN0

                                                                                          http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=smart...fp=leBsIIJAIN0

                                                                                          http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=tgp+s...fp=leBsIIJAIN0

                                                                                          Holy shit! Smart thumbs is way down to 4th on the 1st page for "tgp script"

                                                                                          So if google thinks the back link is spam then why penalize the site/message board
                                                                                          that got spammed and not the domain being spammed?

                                                                                          The other option would be that smart thumbs is using an SEO method that google
                                                                                          has decided to penalize. Add in some spammy sites and that's enough.
                                                                                          Last edited by sortie; 06-20-2009, 10:04 AM.

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                                                                                          • HorseShit
                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                            • Dec 2004
                                                                                            • 17513

                                                                                            #145
                                                                                            Originally posted by 1200mics
                                                                                            Wow looks like i lost more then 50% of my traffic
                                                                                            I guess the only thing we could do is ask Google in webmasters central and try to make ST script more seo friendly ?

                                                                                            We will need much luck and health to overcome this .. so good luck all Smart thumbers :thumbs up:

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                                                                                            • Pleasurepays
                                                                                              BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                              • 11913

                                                                                              #146
                                                                                              Originally posted by sortie
                                                                                              You could be but you ain't!

                                                                                              This non-sense about the back link to smart thumbs causing a problem is bullshit,
                                                                                              especially considering that smart thumbs still comes up #1 on the first page.

                                                                                              http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=smart...fp=leBsIIJAIN0

                                                                                              http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=smart...fp=leBsIIJAIN0

                                                                                              http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=tgp+s...fp=leBsIIJAIN0

                                                                                              Holy shit! Smart thumbs is way down to 4th on the 1st page for "tgp script"

                                                                                              So if google thinks the back link is spam then why penalize the site/message board
                                                                                              that got spammed and not the domain being spammed?

                                                                                              The other option would be that smart thumbs is using an SEO method that google
                                                                                              has decided to penalize. Add in some spammy sites and that's enough.
                                                                                              a site doesn't get penalized because of links pointing to it.

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                                                                                              • Ecchi22
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                                                                                                • Nov 2005
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                                                                                                #147
                                                                                                Seems that http://petitenympha.com got penalty too..

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                                                                                                • cykoe6
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                                                                                                  • Apr 2005
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                                                                                                  #148
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Godsmack
                                                                                                  I lost over 70k google! we have no clue why this happens like everyone else...if we know why this happens we may find some fix for it. Also i wanna say that it's a bit too easy putting the blame on ST unless we know exactly whats happening.
                                                                                                  I agree. I have ST sites that were not penalized.
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                                                                                                  • sortie
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                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                                                                                                    a site doesn't get penalized because of links pointing to it.
                                                                                                    Exactly, so why punish the site pointing to it?

                                                                                                    By your scenario we should all be penalized for pointing to the same sponsors.

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                                                                                                    • Slick
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                                                                                                      • Feb 2001
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                                                                                                      #150
                                                                                                      Thank God I don't use Smart Thumbs ;)

                                                                                                      I do feel sorry for the rest of you though because I do trade with a lot of you guys. Hopefully shit can get straightened out with it.

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