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MsCheyenne 06-19-2009 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Fabien (Post 15978878)
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK YYYYYYYYYYYYYOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU :321GFY:321GFY:321GFY:321GFY:mad::mad::mad::mad:

Pay me and i'll SHUT THE FUCK UP

I agree. If Ibill would settle up on the money they owe me, I would shut the fuck up. The hundreds if not thousands of people who were screwed out of money from Ibill would probably be so gosh darn thrilled to get the money they are owed from Ibill, they would shut the fuck up too. It just doesn't seem likely that Ibill will pay anyone but themselves.

Cheyenne

MsCheyenne 06-19-2009 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 15978904)
I know someone who could do it. Whether he would or not is another matter. He goes by the name "Fightthispatent" on GFY, and at one time made it his mission to organize the collective fight against Acacia and their rather tyranical attempt to enforce a patent they'd purchased which involved video streaming. Do you recall it?

The guy is a machine when he sets his mind on a course.

Brandon, if you're reading this - fire up "Fightibill" and get busy rallying all those who got royally SCREWED OVER by this despicable POS company. :D


It was amazing how the "sales rep" who picked up the phone for new account set up said the former Ibill was owned by "another company" when clients stopped being paid. It wasn't the old Ibill's fault countless webmasters lost thousands of dollars. Even if it was, the new Ibill doesn't have anything but a trademark name associated with the old IBill...aside from the orginal programmers, of course.

Do they really expect the webmasters they stole from to stay down and accept the ass fucking? How is it that they are getting new sign ups and new business? Could it be small businesses that do not know any better or larger businesses that they made sure to pay off before not paying their smaller accounts?

Cheyenne

stuckinflorida 06-19-2009 02:12 PM

1. These guys had nothing to do with the owners of the old iBill.
2. They must not be very bright using the iBill name if they really want to sell to adult merchants.

F-U-Jimmy 06-19-2009 02:30 PM

I dont believe the crap that these new IBILL ass hats spout for one micro second. When Iballs went down it spawned at least half a dozen clones. These clone companies where all started by ex Iballs employees. They all saw how Iballs was being run and how the Adult webmaster was being skinned alive. Im sure they thought to themselves, wow all those webmaster got taken for millions and no one did a thing about it, so I guess we can do the same.

Take Smegpay and recent posts on GFY about them billing for tube site knowing full well that tube site profit from others stolen content. And when they get caught with their hand in the cookie jar WTF did they do, try to wiggle out of it and when GFY would not let it die they termed the client. Im sure had GFY members not posted about this incident they would still be a client.

I will never ever trust any company that was started by ex employees of IBALLS even if they just washed dishes there. They all seem to be tarred with the same brush. I seriously dont see why the onus is on the content owner to police every site on the web just to have his ? content removed from a site. Better that the processing company checks up front. CCBill does regular checks so why not Smegpay ? :2 cents::2 cents:

jakethedog 06-19-2009 02:31 PM

Just signed up .. man they are awesome .. !! .. BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ... fucking ring-assed fart suckers ....

F-U-Jimmy 06-19-2009 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by stuckinflorida (Post 15979290)
1. These guys had nothing to do with the owners of the old iBill.

This is BULL shit if they worked there they new the owners:mad:

MsCheyenne 06-19-2009 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy (Post 15976520)
Executive Team

Irja Zarembok
President and Chief Executive Officer
Irja Zarembok is President of iBill with overall responsibility for growing the business and establishing iBill as the leading global online payment service. Irja previously served as iBilll's senior vice president and chief technology officer where she oversaw information technology, product development, and architecture for iBill.
Prior to iBill, Irja worked for Inovant, a subsidiary of Visa formed to oversee global technology for the organization. As executive vice president of technology solutions at Inovant, she was responsible for all development, support and maintenance of Visa's global payment system.

Irja was also an information officer of Barclays Global Investors, where she implemented a new strategic technology platform and global infrastructure.


Jonas C. Brown
Executive Vice President, Security
Jonas Brown has been with iBill since the company's inception. Jonas has held different titles here at iBill from the time he started and now is responsible for Risk, Credit, Fraud and Underwriting.

Prior to joining iBill, Jonas worked for PayMyBills.com as the Director of Risk Management in charge of over 1.2 million in ACH payments per month.

Jonas has studied at RCC Riverside, UCR Riverside, CCSN and UNLV Las Vegas.


Jeff L. Walker
Executive Vice President, Sales
Jeff Walker came to iBill after seven years with Global net. Most recently he served as Executive Manager of Strategic Global Accounts where he focused his sales management efforts on Investment Accounts - large multi-national accounts requiring unusual effort to sell and service. He also headed the Corporate National Account program, concentrating on Fortune 500 clients. Prior to Global Net, Jeff spent three years with Bank of America as a real estate officer.

Jeff has an MBA from Duke University and an undergraduate degree from Vanderbilt University.


Paula Snow
Vice President of Marketing
Paula Snow joined iBill after 3 years with telechart, most recently as Operations Manager for Global Accounts. In that capacity, she ran business operations, marketing, customer service and human resource functions for the division. Previously she was Marketing Development Manager with Prizewise, in the Business Development organization where she focused on pricing platforms and contract development for Prizewise?s largest global accounts.

Paula has an MBA in Finance from UCLA California.

Do you think they will be showing up at trade shows?

F-U-Jimmy 06-19-2009 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MsCheyenne (Post 15979387)
Do you think they will be showing up at trade shows?

I think you can bank on that :Oh crap

BSleazy 06-19-2009 02:45 PM

You gotta be kidding me.

Loch 06-19-2009 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy (Post 15979396)
I think you can bank on that :Oh crap

If any of them show up i wouldn't be stunned it something nasty went down.

fitzmulti 06-19-2009 03:00 PM

FUCK Ibill!

F-U-Jimmy 06-19-2009 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Loch (Post 15979458)
If any of them show up i wouldn't be stunned it something nasty went down.

Sadly it would be a waste of time, im sure we can all think of more subtle ways of putting them out of business without getting webmasters into trouble ?:thumbsup

MsCheyenne 06-19-2009 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy (Post 15979346)
I dont believe the crap that these new IBILL ass hats spout for one micro second. When Iballs went down it spawned at least half a dozen clones. These clone companies where all started by ex Iballs employees. They all saw how Iballs was being run and how the Adult webmaster was being skinned alive. Im sure they thought to themselves, wow all those webmaster got taken for millions and no one did a thing about it, so I guess we can do the same.

Take Smegpay and recent posts on GFY about them billing for tube site knowing full well that tube site profit from others stolen content. And when they get caught with their hand in the cookie jar WTF did they do, try to wiggle out of it and when GFY would not let it die they termed the client. Im sure had GFY members not posted about this incident they would still be a client.

I will never ever trust any company that was started by ex employees of IBALLS even if they just washed dishes there. They all seem to be tarred with the same brush. I seriously dont see why the onus is on the content owner to police every site on the web just to have his ? content removed from a site. Better that the processing company checks up front. CCBill does regular checks so why not Smegpay ? :2 cents::2 cents:

You are surely not alone by not trusting a company started by ex iBill employees. Just as a matter of curiosity: Where do you think the money iBill defrauded their clients out of went to?

F-U-Jimmy 06-19-2009 04:03 PM

The one place it didn't go was to the webmaster's who earned it. I did hear First Data kept quite a chunk. But its anyone guess :(

MsCheyenne 06-19-2009 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy (Post 15979678)
The one place it didn't go was to the webmaster's who earned it. I did hear First Data kept quite a chunk. But its anyone guess :(

Here is an article that anyone considering doing business with ibill should read:

http://www.newyorkdailytimes.com/home.htm?m=ibill

who 06-19-2009 04:14 PM

Who is so dumb...

CDSmith 06-19-2009 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by who (Post 15979709)
Who is so dumb...

Don't put yourself down man. You're not that dumb.



... you were speaking about yourself in the 3rd person, right?

MsCheyenne 06-20-2009 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by who (Post 15979709)
Who is so dumb...

Perhaps new web masters who do not know what went down a few years ago?

captainjapan. 06-20-2009 05:59 AM

i use to work for that fucked up company, ibill. I've never heard of any of those names listed. i came way after all the bullshit went down. basically segpay was and still is the new ibill. all the crooks from ibill formed their own company and its called segpay. i only worked there 5 months. it was a total joke. i was in sales trying to drum up business, but mostly took calls from pissed off webmasters wanting to know where their money is. i was making really good money for doing nothing so i stuck around for 5 months. very shady people that worked there. jeezus.
i found out exactly what went down. basically all the upper management and sales people kept "paying themselves forward" is how i was told. they would keep all your money up front to put in their own pockets first then they thought they could "pay the webmasters next month" but they kept doing it month after month. sure they had their cars and huge houses. one guy who came back told me he was in sales and made like $25,000 a month for a few months straight and he bought not only himself but his mom a house too! and thats just a sales guy. God only know how much upper management was putting in their pockets.
So basically it all snowballed after a few years of paying themselves first and then its like "oops, we dont have any money left for our actual clients because we all put it in our pockets". Its nothing but total greed and robbery. I cant believe they got away with it actually. Its no different than robbing a bank. You webmasters probably already know this whole story though.

MsCheyenne 06-20-2009 12:36 PM

Thanks. This is very interesting.

F-U-Jimmy 06-20-2009 09:01 PM

Hey Cheyenne
Can i ask you in your Avatar are you holding some poor guys balls :helpme:1orglaugh

rowan 06-20-2009 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MsCheyenne (Post 15978479)
I just called them. The man who answered the phone said that he was an orginal programmer from the "late Ibill." He said that the "new" Ibill bought the name/trademark but are a different company. When I asked him if using the "Ibill name" was turning out to be business suicide, he said it was actually the opposite. According to "this man" who answered the phone, web sites are doing business with them based on the Ibill name.

Wow.

I've seen ibill.net before but I figured someone snapped it then copied it from archive.org as a joke.

Wow. :warning

JFK 06-21-2009 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Loch (Post 15979458)
If any of them show up i wouldn't be stunned it something nasty went down.

seems to me last time they showed up at an event, they had security:2 cents:

Zester 06-21-2009 04:29 AM

i can't believe this.... i can't even find a "wtf" pic that suits this...

MaDalton 06-21-2009 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by captainjapan. (Post 15980868)
i use to work for that fucked up company, ibill. I've never heard of any of those names listed. i came way after all the bullshit went down. basically segpay was and still is the new ibill. all the crooks from ibill formed their own company and its called segpay. i only worked there 5 months. it was a total joke. i was in sales trying to drum up business, but mostly took calls from pissed off webmasters wanting to know where their money is. i was making really good money for doing nothing so i stuck around for 5 months. very shady people that worked there. jeezus.
i found out exactly what went down. basically all the upper management and sales people kept "paying themselves forward" is how i was told. they would keep all your money up front to put in their own pockets first then they thought they could "pay the webmasters next month" but they kept doing it month after month. sure they had their cars and huge houses. one guy who came back told me he was in sales and made like $25,000 a month for a few months straight and he bought not only himself but his mom a house too! and thats just a sales guy. God only know how much upper management was putting in their pockets.
So basically it all snowballed after a few years of paying themselves first and then its like "oops, we dont have any money left for our actual clients because we all put it in our pockets". Its nothing but total greed and robbery. I cant believe they got away with it actually. Its no different than robbing a bank. You webmasters probably already know this whole story though.

interesting...

MediaGuy 06-21-2009 05:07 AM

So let's see a run down on these sites and companies running with them... maybe they're reputable Vuiton and Rolex duplicate dealers...

:D

F-U-Jimmy 06-21-2009 10:54 AM

Bump to the first page :Oh crap

Zester 06-21-2009 11:32 AM

i'm just waiting for websitebilling to show up again

Lifer 06-21-2009 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy (Post 15979346)
I dont believe the crap that these new IBILL ass hats spout for one micro second. When Iballs went down it spawned at least half a dozen clones. These clone companies where all started by ex Iballs employees. They all saw how Iballs was being run and how the Adult webmaster was being skinned alive. Im sure they thought to themselves, wow all those webmaster got taken for millions and no one did a thing about it, so I guess we can do the same.

Take Smegpay and recent posts on GFY about them billing for tube site knowing full well that tube site profit from others stolen content. And when they get caught with their hand in the cookie jar WTF did they do, try to wiggle out of it and when GFY would not let it die they termed the client. Im sure had GFY members not posted about this incident they would still be a client.

I will never ever trust any company that was started by ex employees of IBALLS even if they just washed dishes there. They all seem to be tarred with the same brush. I seriously dont see why the onus is on the content owner to police every site on the web just to have his ? content removed from a site. Better that the processing company checks up front. CCBill does regular checks so why not Smegpay ? :2 cents::2 cents:

Exactly right

MsCheyenne 06-21-2009 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy (Post 15982478)
Hey Cheyenne
Can i ask you in your Avatar are you holding some poor guys balls :helpme:1orglaugh

Actually that is ClubDom's favorite fetish model, Jean Bardot, holding some guy's poor balls. Speaking of poor balls, this guy got off easy. lol.

Cheyenne

F-U-Jimmy 06-21-2009 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MsCheyenne (Post 15983920)
Actually that is ClubDom's favorite fetish model, Jean Bardot, holding some guy's poor balls. Speaking of poor balls, this guy got off easy. lol.

Cheyenne

Ouch that makes me cringe, Cute girl :thumbsup

Dodge2hot 06-21-2009 07:25 PM

Ok, so they are still in biz. Why don't the ones that they owe money to join together and nail their asses?

I was one of the lucky ones that never had any dealings with them.

Zester 06-22-2009 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dodge2hot (Post 15984473)
Ok, so they are still in biz. Why don't the ones that they owe money to join together and nail their asses?

how ? do what exactly ?

Juilan 06-22-2009 12:36 PM

WOW just wow.

american pervert 06-22-2009 02:49 PM

I rock my ibill shirt at the gym

pornguy 06-22-2009 02:58 PM

Not good. A lot of people that DONT know about them will get screwed.

AmeliaG 06-22-2009 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 15978514)
you should have emailed them your avatar picture - maybe that would have helped

Ya know, Cheyenne, I've looked at your avatar over and over and just thought hot chick and did not process what you were doing :1orglaugh

F-U-Jimmy 06-22-2009 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 15987247)
Not good. A lot of people that DONT know about them will get screwed.


Thats why it good to keep this on the first page, so at least a few newbees will see what a bunch of asshats Iballs is. It would be great if people who post on other boards make a link to this thread, that way we can cover more ground.

Looks like more than a few of the old Iballs staff are still running this new incarnation of online theft :321GFY:321GFY

marzzo 06-23-2009 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy (Post 15987424)
Thats why it good to keep this on the first page, so at least a few newbees will see what a bunch of asshats Iballs is. It would be great if people who post on other boards make a link to this thread, that way we can cover more ground.

Looks like more than a few of the old Iballs staff are still running this new incarnation of online theft :321GFY:321GFY

:food-smil10

F-U-Jimmy 06-23-2009 05:01 PM

Bump Bitch :upsidedow


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