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  • mpahlca
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    • Feb 2004
    • 1821

    #1

    Can anyone really be honest on GFY?

    I always see people comment about sites and shit and always say "wow looks great" or "awesome idea wish i thought of it" but most times its the same shit different color so just wondering if anyone ever just wanted to post the truth?
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  • GrouchyAdmin
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    • Apr 2006
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    #2
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    • Juicy D. Links
      So Fucking Banned
      • Apr 2001
      • 122992

      #3
      you can pretty much tell who are the "fakes" "asskissers" and what not here by now

      if evryone posted the truth then there would be more shitstorms than usual

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      • Yen_HerbalRevenue
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        • Mar 2009
        • 816

        #4
        Ha ha that is why it all looks great. Because it all looks the same jk

        Most the time if I don't have anything nice to say I just don't say anything at all


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        • StuartD
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          • Jul 2002
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          #5
          Great thread! I wish I had made one like it. Great job
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          • $tandaman
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            #6
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            • mpahlca
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              • Feb 2004
              • 1821

              #7
              Originally posted by Juicy D. Links
              you can pretty much tell who are the "fakes" "asskissers" and what not here by now

              if evryone posted the truth then there would be more shitstorms than usual
              See if I really said what I wanted to some of the time I am positive there would be trouble lol, so most times its just jokes with people i know or who send me links to post in. I wonder if I started a new nic and just railed fuckers how long till i was banned?
              I could give two shits wether you read this sig or not.

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              • SilentKnight
                Megan Fox's fluffer
                • Oct 2005
                • 24818

                #8
                Thread looks great!

                Awesome idea!

                WTG!

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                • CaptainHowdy
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                  • Dec 2004
                  • 94733

                  #9
                  It's a damm porn site not a work of art... I always appreciate the effort/investment .

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                  • WarChild
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                    • Jan 2003
                    • 17263

                    #10
                    Originally posted by mpahlca
                    I wonder if I started a new nic and just railed fuckers how long till i was banned?
                    They haven't banned me yet.
                    .

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                    • woj
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                      #11
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                      • DWB
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                        • Jul 2003
                        • 31779

                        #12
                        I'm honest and I'm called an ass kisser and homo for it. LOL

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                        • seeandsee
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                          • Mar 2006
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Juicy D. Links
                          you can pretty much tell who are the "fakes" "asskissers" and what not here by now

                          if evryone posted the truth then there would be more shitstorms than usual
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                          • goldflower
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                            • Feb 2006
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by WarChild
                            They haven't banned me yet.
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                            • mpahlca
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                              • Feb 2004
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by WarChild
                              They haven't banned me yet.
                              yeah but see your a big sweet heart lol
                              I could give two shits wether you read this sig or not.

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                              • ronaldo
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                                • Jan 2002
                                • 5475

                                #16
                                lol, WELL, a while back a buddy was all excited about something he'd gotten into and he wanted to show me. I took a look at it briefly and congratulated him. We kept talking for a while and during the conversation I took a little closer look...not in depth mind you, but a little closer. I told him what I thought, it looked really good, but...(then I told him a few things that might concern me if I were him). This was all on icq btw, so I wasn't even dissing him in public.

                                He got super pissed and really defensive about it. I reiterated that I had just done a surface scan of what he showed me and my concerns COULD be completely unfounded, but at first glance, that's what I saw. lol, he tore a strip off of me. We argued for a while longer, him calling me arrogant, me AGAIN saying, I COULD be wrong, but that's what I saw, until we finally agreed to disagree.

                                I'm of the school that a REAL friend tells you the TRUTH. I'd rather a friend tell me something looks like shit and stop me from making a mistake than telling me something looks GREAT and me falling flat on my face. REAL friends want to here the bad along with the good. Whatever. If you don't want an honest opinion, don't ask. If you want a superficial cheerleader response to something, don't ask me.

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                                • SilentKnight
                                  Megan Fox's fluffer
                                  • Oct 2005
                                  • 24818

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by ronaldo
                                  lol, WELL, a while back a buddy was all excited about something he'd gotten into and he wanted to show me. I took a look at it briefly and congratulated him. We kept talking for a while and during the conversation I took a little closer look...not in depth mind you, but a little closer. I told him what I thought, it looked really good, but...(then I told him a few things that might concern me if I were him). This was all on icq btw, so I wasn't even dissing him in public.

                                  He got super pissed and really defensive about it. I reiterated that I had just done a surface scan of what he showed me and my concerns COULD be completely unfounded, but at first glance, that's what I saw. lol, he tore a strip off of me. We argued for a while longer, him calling me arrogant, me AGAIN saying, I COULD be wrong, but that's what I saw, until we finally agreed to disagree.

                                  I'm of the school that a REAL friend tells you the TRUTH. I'd rather a friend tell me something looks like shit and stop me from making a mistake than telling me something looks GREAT and me falling flat on my face. REAL friends want to here the bad along with the good. Whatever. If you don't want an honest opinion, don't ask. If you want a superficial cheerleader response to something, don't ask me.
                                  Well said.

                                  I think many of us have gone through similiar situations (in one way or another). Photography is especially an area where people tend to get defensive if an honest (but somewhat negative) critique is given.

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                                  • 96ukssob
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                                    • Mar 2003
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                                    #18
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                                    • mpahlca
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                                      • Feb 2004
                                      • 1821

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by $tandaman
                                      Michael! Your avatar looks great, WOW!
                                      LOL thanks i took the beard off but havent updated the avatar yet.
                                      I could give two shits wether you read this sig or not.

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                                      • ronaldo
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                                        • Jan 2002
                                        • 5475

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by SilentKnight
                                        I think many of us have gone through similiar situations (in one way or another). Photography is especially an area where people tend to get defensive if an honest (but somewhat negative) critique is given.
                                        See, if it was myself, and I'm not a photographer so admittedly don't speak from direct experience, I'd take a look at what they're saying because unless they're just being jagoffs, they're probably right. In the end, I'M going to be a better photographer for listening.

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                                        • HorseShit
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                                          • Dec 2004
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                                          #21
                                          I talk shit up and down all day

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                                          • Nick-Mindgeek
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                                            #22
                                            You cant handle the truth!

                                            Ok Ok...I had to say that dumb line

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                                            • Nicky
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                                              • Mar 2003
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                                              #23
                                              This is a board called Go Fuck Yourself. people should be honest :P

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                                              • papill0n
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                                                • Oct 2007
                                                • 15547

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by ronaldo
                                                lol, WELL, a while back a buddy was all excited about something he'd gotten into and he wanted to show me. I took a look at it briefly and congratulated him. We kept talking for a while and during the conversation I took a little closer look...not in depth mind you, but a little closer. I told him what I thought, it looked really good, but...(then I told him a few things that might concern me if I were him). This was all on icq btw, so I wasn't even dissing him in public.

                                                He got super pissed and really defensive about it. I reiterated that I had just done a surface scan of what he showed me and my concerns COULD be completely unfounded, but at first glance, that's what I saw. lol, he tore a strip off of me. We argued for a while longer, him calling me arrogant, me AGAIN saying, I COULD be wrong, but that's what I saw, until we finally agreed to disagree.

                                                I'm of the school that a REAL friend tells you the TRUTH. I'd rather a friend tell me something looks like shit and stop me from making a mistake than telling me something looks GREAT and me falling flat on my face. REAL friends want to here the bad along with the good. Whatever. If you don't want an honest opinion, don't ask. If you want a superficial cheerleader response to something, don't ask me.
                                                agreed ronaldo. I want to hear the truth not some lubed up version people think you want to hear.

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                                                • fris
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                                                  • mynameisjim
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                                                    • Aug 2007
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                                                    #26
                                                    If a site has already been launched, the owner will find out if it's good or not. It doesn't really matter if you bash him or not at that point. Might as well just wish them the best of luck and move on.

                                                    Not to mention, people that claim to always "speak their mind" and "tell it like it is" usually just do that as an excuse to be an asshole and don't have the other person's best interest in mind at all, even though that's what they claim.
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                                                    • Socks
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                                                      • May 2002
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                                                      #27
                                                      I think also people have this idea that they need to keep everything to themselves, like everything is a big secret. So if they think of something intelligent to say or add, they think twice and don't reply. Very few people actually help people out around here.

                                                      fris has been a good example lately though, commendations, fellow Canadian.

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                                                      • StuartD
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                                                        • Jul 2002
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Socks
                                                        I think also people have this idea that they need to keep everything to themselves, like everything is a big secret. So if they think of something intelligent to say or add, they think twice and don't reply. Very few people actually help people out around here.

                                                        fris has been a good example lately though, commendations, fellow Canadian.
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                                                        • princess
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                                                          • Feb 2001
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by mpahlca
                                                          I always see people comment about sites and shit and always say "wow looks great" or "awesome idea wish i thought of it" but most times its the same shit different color so just wondering if anyone ever just wanted to post the truth?
                                                          Look at this face.. can't you see the honesty in it? *wink*
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                                                          • SilentKnight
                                                            Megan Fox's fluffer
                                                            • Oct 2005
                                                            • 24818

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by ronaldo
                                                            See, if it was myself, and I'm not a photographer so admittedly don't speak from direct experience, I'd take a look at what they're saying because unless they're just being jagoffs, they're probably right. In the end, I'M going to be a better photographer for listening.
                                                            I hear ya'.

                                                            Although, I wouldn't say "probably right" - at least in my experience. I tend to pay closer attention to critiques from people I respect as talented fellow shutterbugs...as opposed to a layman without a trained eye.

                                                            As for jagoffs...well, its GFY...whatcha' expect?

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                                                            • ronaldo
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by mynameisjim
                                                              If a site has already been launched, the owner will find out if it's good or not. It doesn't really matter if you bash him or not at that point. Might as well just wish them the best of luck and move on.

                                                              Not to mention, people that claim to always "speak their mind" and "tell it like it is" usually just do that as an excuse to be an asshole and don't have the other person's best interest in mind at all, even though that's what they claim.
                                                              If someone says to me, "Hey, check out this new project of mine!", I'll congratulate them. If someone says to me, "Hey, check out this new project of mine. What do you think?" I'll tell them what I think. Like I said, if they don't want to really know what I think, don't ask.

                                                              And if you believe people "USUALLY do that as an excuse to be an asshole and don't have the other person's best interest in mind", you're either too sensitive, OR you hang out with the wrong people. (Thinking about that for a second. If you mean privately, I stick to what I said. If you mean HERE on GFY, then yes, you're probably right).

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                                                              • ShellyCrash
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                                                                • Jun 2004
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Yen_HerbalRevenue
                                                                Most the time if I don't have anything nice to say I just don't say anything at all
                                                                I agree and usually do the same. I don't pay empty compliments, if it's not my bag / doesn't strike me I usually just pass on by.

                                                                That being said, "ugly / pretty" is a real thing. Sometimes ugly sites / pages REALLY work. I have seen some ugly pages that look like Geocities 1996 that send sales, so sometimes it's not how slick the design is but how the webmaster works it.

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                                                                • DeanCapture
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                                                                  • Dec 2002
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by mpahlca
                                                                  Can anyone really be honest on GFY?
                                                                  I remember this one time I was honest on GFY.....and I got banned for a year.

                                                                  Sometimes it simply does not pay to be honest
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                                                                  • Yngwie
                                                                    I am an Alien from space
                                                                    • May 2003
                                                                    • 11118

                                                                    #34
                                                                    There are a few problems with both being honest and with lying.

                                                                    Honest: You're honest all the time about everything. You will offend some people. Many people will say bad shit about you because you're honest makes you look like an asshole which in my opinion is stupid.

                                                                    Lying: People look at you as a person that can't be trusted even though many of your lies are to save certain people from being offended or hurt. You may also look like an asskisser which in most cases you're not. People talk behind your back etc.. etc..

                                                                    So either way you're screwed.. You basically have to have an even mixture or truth and lies. Of course, the lies should not be anything drastic. I'm tired so if what I said made no sense I can't be held responsible. hahah
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                                                                    • ronaldo
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Yngwie
                                                                      There are a few problems with both being honest and with lying.

                                                                      Honest: You're honest all the time about everything. You will offend some people. Many people will say bad shit about you because you're honest makes you look like an asshole which in my opinion is stupid.

                                                                      Lying: People look at you as a person that can't be trusted even though many of your lies are to save certain people from being offended or hurt. You may also look like an asskisser which in most cases you're not. People talk behind your back etc.. etc..

                                                                      So either way you're screwed.. You basically have to have an even mixture or truth and lies. Of course, the lies should not be anything drastic. I'm tired so if what I said made no sense I can't be held responsible. hahah
                                                                      Honesty = Respect to me.

                                                                      If someone isn't honest with me, even though they may be trying to spare my feelings, they aren't helping me and that imo isn't being respectful.

                                                                      Whether or not I hurt someone's feelings when I tell them the truth, I believe, in the LONG run, sometimes the VERY long run, they'll respect that I WAS honest with them and was TRYING to help them. Those that can't see that will probably never succeed OR be happy in life because they'll spend their time bitching about people being honest with them instead of LISTENING to what they actually have to say.

                                                                      One caveat to that is marriage.

                                                                      When the wife asks if she's fat, that's not a good time to be honest and say, "You're a cow honey. You're a cow". If she asks if I want to fuck some hottie, that's not a good time to be honest and say, "Are you kidding? I'd push you off a cliff for a taste of that pussy".

                                                                      So, in short, in business and friendship...be honest. With the woman you love...lie your ass off.

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                                                                      • tranza
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Some people can be, some others...
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                                                                        • Jack Sparrow
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                                                                          #37
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                                                                          • Yngwie
                                                                            I am an Alien from space
                                                                            • May 2003
                                                                            • 11118

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by ronaldo
                                                                            Honesty = Respect to me.

                                                                            If someone isn't honest with me, even though they may be trying to spare my feelings, they aren't helping me and that imo isn't being respectful.

                                                                            Whether or not I hurt someone's feelings when I tell them the truth, I believe, in the LONG run, sometimes the VERY long run, they'll respect that I WAS honest with them and was TRYING to help them. Those that can't see that will probably never succeed OR be happy in life because they'll spend their time bitching about people being honest with them instead of LISTENING to what they actually have to say.

                                                                            One caveat to that is marriage.

                                                                            When the wife asks if she's fat, that's not a good time to be honest and say, "You're a cow honey. You're a cow". If she asks if I want to fuck some hottie, that's not a good time to be honest and say, "Are you kidding? I'd push you off a cliff for a taste of that pussy".

                                                                            So, in short, in business and friendship...be honest. With the woman you love...lie your ass off.

                                                                            I understand that, which is why I'm honest about everything even if it makes me look bad. I don't care if people don't like me. I just want to be honest and no live my whole life lying. I know I say to have an even mixture of lies and truth in my last post, but that was just to make my point, but I'm always honest even though, in some cases, it will come back and kick me in the ass. I also want people to be honest with me whether it will hurt my feelings or not. Sure, I may get hurt or mad, but at least they were honest.

                                                                            As for the woman you love, ya, in that case you're better off lying about many things to avoid her wrath. lol "Do I look fat in these pants?" No honey.. they fit you perfect and accent your beautiful body.. *phew! dodged a bullet there*

                                                                            haha
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                                                                            • Iron Fist
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              If we all posted the truth, we'd all be banned by now.
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                                                                              • Martin
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                                                                                • Dec 2001
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                I try to stay away from the negative threads or try to avoid saying anything negative. If I say that someone has a nice site or idea I say so and it's my honest opinion. I don't kiss ass.

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                                                                                • mpahlca
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                                                                                  • Feb 2004
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by DeanCapture
                                                                                  I remember this one time I was honest on GFY.....and I got banned for a year.

                                                                                  Sometimes it simply does not pay to be honest
                                                                                  See this is my thought, and i liked your post, when you got banned, but now the board is so involved with advertisers that really being honest about things gets in the way of those ad sales, and with fewer and fewer companies buying ads on sites that must translate to the advertiser having more and more pull, so say an advertiser is threatened pissed off etc.

                                                                                  Now if i start a fake nic, lets call it mpahlca2.0 and just rail the shit out of everyone and get massive page views etc. get banned not only would i be helping the site and its advertisers get more traffic, but i would be helping all the others looking for info?
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                                                                                  • Jack Sparrow
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by sharphead
                                                                                    If we all posted the truth, we'd all be banned by now.
                                                                                    Originally posted by Martin
                                                                                    I try to stay away from the negative threads or try to avoid saying anything negative. If I say that someone has a nice site or idea I say so and it's my honest opinion. I don't kiss ass.
                                                                                    Add these 2 up, and you have the answer right there.

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                                                                                    • Fucksakes
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                                                                                      • Dec 2003
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Ill never forget the day.. a well known webmaster asked me what he thought of this new site.. and I said the girl was ugly.. his reply.. thats my wife..

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                                                                                      • MetaMan
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Fucksakes
                                                                                        Ill never forget the day.. a well known webmaster asked me what he thought of this new site.. and I said the girl was ugly.. his reply.. thats my wife..


                                                                                        im stealing this quote fucking hilrious.

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                                                                                        • mpahlca
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Fucksakes
                                                                                          Ill never forget the day.. a well known webmaster asked me what he thought of this new site.. and I said the girl was ugly.. his reply.. thats my wife..
                                                                                          That might hit my sig
                                                                                          I could give two shits wether you read this sig or not.

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                                                                                          • mikeyddddd
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by StuartD
                                                                                            Great thread! I wish I had made one like it. Great job
                                                                                            Originally posted by $tandaman
                                                                                            Michael! Your avatar looks great, WOW!
                                                                                            Originally posted by SilentKnight
                                                                                            Thread looks great!

                                                                                            Awesome idea!

                                                                                            WTG!
                                                                                            Originally posted by woj
                                                                                            great thread



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                                                                                            • StuartD
                                                                                              Sofa King Band
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                                                                                              • 29903

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Ah but let's not forget the flip side to this coin.... there are those who become obnoxiously overly rude and call it honesty.

                                                                                              Someone posts a girl who's not a perfect 10 on this forum and some people take an opportunity to call her the most insulting name they can think of, put down the photographer and try to work in an insult on her mom if they can.... and when someone comments on how rude they are, they go "I'm just being honest"

                                                                                              The difference between "I don't really like that" to "That's most retarded thing I've ever heard of, it's amazing you have the brain power to tie your shoelaces, I hope you die tomorrow" is a pretty wide margin... people seem to think that they can "stretch the truth" as far as they want and still call it the truth but it simply isn't so.
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                                                                                              • Fucksakes
                                                                                                Shit... Fuck! What the Hell?
                                                                                                • Dec 2003
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by mpahlca
                                                                                                That might hit my sig
                                                                                                hehe, I don't even remember how I talked my way outta that one.

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                                                                                                • StaceyJo
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                                                                                                  #49
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                                                                                                  • mikesouth
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Im honest hell I even once had a mod threaten to kill me LOL

                                                                                                    Good Times
                                                                                                    Mike South

                                                                                                    It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

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