Illegal Tube Site vs Legal Tube Site - GoFuckYourself.com

Barefootsies · 06-13-2009, 06:51 PM

Illegal being defined as those who do not license/buy content, and claim user submits.

I am looking for examples of both. I know Mr Frisky has a legal one. Some others are hosting sponsor videos are another. Just looking for a comparison between the two.

Fire away.

Si · 06-13-2009, 06:55 PM

illegal could also be a tubesite using sponsor videos without 2257 documentation

mikesinner · 06-13-2009, 07:03 PM

Seems to me there are legal ones and then those that pretend that surfers upload all the illegal movies. Either way I don't think legal ones are very profitable.

Agent 488 · 06-13-2009, 07:10 PM

stupid thread. you can't determine here what is legal and illegal.

you are just obfuscating the debate with your terminology, a debate which is 2-4 years old already and pretty much put to rest.

Barefootsies · 06-13-2009, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mobilefun1987

illegal could also be a tubesite using sponsor videos without 2257 documentation

True. However, I am looking for some broad examples.

Some have went the way of 1997, stealing first, make a mint on advertising, and then goign to the licensed content business model. Some are just stealing claiming use submits, and then others are legal, licensed content.

Barefootsies · 06-13-2009, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesinner

Seems to me there are legal ones and then those that pretend that surfers upload all the illegal movies. Either way I don't think legal ones are very profitable.

Agent 488 · 06-13-2009, 07:19 PM

are looking for examples of licensed content tubes?

yes the are some with sub 100 alexas.

some with 2 min mgp clips?

yes there are some with sub 5000 alexas.

yes people are successful with tubes.

topnotch, standup guy · 06-13-2009, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by budsbabes

stupid thread. you can't determine here what is legal and illegal.

Sure you can. If the tube site includes so called "user submitted" content it's illegal.

It's as fucking simple as that.

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Originally Posted by budsbabes

you are just obfuscating the debate with your terminology, a debate which is 2-4 years old already and pretty much put to rest.

Yeah right

Agent 488 · 06-13-2009, 07:29 PM

you should have never dropped out of law school.

topnotch, standup guy · 06-13-2009, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mobilefun1987

illegal could also be a tubesite using sponsor videos without 2257 documentation

So what? Who fucking cares?

Agent 488 · 06-13-2009, 07:30 PM

you should send a support ticket to google and let them know they are running an "illegal" tube site.

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Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy

Sure you can. If the tube site includes so called "user submitted" content it's illegal.

Snake Doctor · 06-13-2009, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy

Sure you can. If the tube site includes so called "user submitted" content it's illegal.

It's as fucking simple as that.

Ummm, the definition of illegal is

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il⋅le⋅gal

/ɪˈligəl/ [i-lee-guhl]
?adjective
1. forbidden by law or statute

User submitted content is legal, it complies with current law.

I agree that it's a totally fucked up situation and that the law needs a re-write to keep up with technology, BUT, calling it illegal is stupid because you get bogged down in a fucking semantic argument and never get to have the discussion you wanted to have in the first place.

You and OP could do all of us a favor by putting your heads together to come up with new terminology to describe the different types of tube sites.

topnotch, standup guy · 06-13-2009, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by budsbabes

you should have never dropped out of law school.

I ain't talking legalize here. Illegal tubes, in the sense that most of us view the term, are about robbing honest webmasters and affiliates and you know that as well as anyone else.

gideongallery · 06-13-2009, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy

Sure you can. If the tube site includes so called "user submitted" content it's illegal.

It's as fucking simple as that.

Yeah right

an you are all pimps living off the avails of prostitution

oh wait were live in the real world where the law as it is currently legal makes both your business and theirs legal.

Agent 488 · 06-13-2009, 07:36 PM

i'm doing lowering my iq for the day. adios.

Barefootsies · 06-13-2009, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

You and OP could do all of us a favor by putting your heads together to come up with new terminology to describe the different types of tube sites.

True dat nig.

Webmaster Army · 06-13-2009, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy

Sure you can. If the tube site includes so called "user submitted" content it's illegal.

It's as fucking simple as that.

The problem with your argument is that it's wrong.

Laugh on that one for awhile.

Webmaster Army · 06-13-2009, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

Ummm, the definition of illegal is

User submitted content is legal, it complies with current law.

I agree that it's a totally fucked up situation and that the law needs a re-write to keep up with technology, BUT, calling it illegal is stupid because you get bogged down in a fucking semantic argument and never get to have the discussion you wanted to have in the first place.

Just call it an immoral tube site.

SomeCreep · 06-13-2009, 07:58 PM

All of the Alexa top 100 tube sites are illegal. Hmm, that says something right there.

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Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	stupid thread. you can't determine here what is legal and illegal. you are just obfuscating the debate with your terminology, a debate which is 2-4 years old already and pretty much put to rest.

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Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	are looking for examples of licensed content tubes? yes the are some with sub 100 alexas. some with 2 min mgp clips? yes there are some with sub 5000 alexas. yes people are successful with tubes.

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Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	you should have never dropped out of law school.

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Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	i'm doing lowering my iq for the day. adios.