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  • Vendzilla
    Biker Gnome
    • Mar 2004
    • 23200

    #1

    New gun laws

    Our state government is having problems paying for everything, then they try to pass bullshit like this. They want to make it illegal to get ammo from anyone but a licenced ammo dealer. I get ammo from my dad who reloads it, it would make it illegal for him to give it to me. What kind of idiot dreamed this up? I go shooting and use over 500 rounds each time I go and I should be able to get it from my dad. This from the people that want to make it illegal to sell black cars because it takes more fuel to keep them cool during the summer?

    On June 3, the Assembly passed Assembly Bill 962 by a 42-31 vote. AB962 now heads to the Senate where it has been assigned to the Senate Public Safety Committee. Also on June 3, Senate Bill 585 passed the Senate by a vote of 21-18. It now moves to the Assembly where it will be considered by the Assembly Public Safety Committee. No hearing dates have been scheduled for either bill.

    Sponsored by Assembly Member Kevin De Leon (D-45), AB962 would make it a crime to privately transfer more than 50 rounds of ammunition per month, even between family and friends, unless you are registered as a ?handgun ammunition vendor? in the Department of Justice?s database. Ammunition retailers would have to be licensed and store ammunition in such a manner that it would be inaccessible to purchasers. The bill would also require purchasers submit to fingerprinting, which would be submitted to the Department of Justice. Lastly, mail order ammunition sales would be prohibited.

    SB585, introduced by State Senator Mark Leno (D-3), would prohibit the sale of firearms and ammunition on the property or inside the buildings that comprise the Cow Palace . In short, SB585 is a stepping-stone to banning gun shows on all publicly-owned property in California .
    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
    think about that
  • Just Mike
    Confirmed User
    • Sep 2002
    • 3726

    #2
    I want to move out of this state...this is retarded

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    • BradM
      Confirmed User
      • Dec 2003
      • 3397

      #3
      It's also required to pay tax on biofuel. There's an easy way to get around this - just don't.

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      • Mr Pheer
        So Fucking Banned
        • Dec 2002
        • 22082

        #4
        What state is doing this?

        *edit * nevermind, I see its California.That kind of explains a lot, California has some of the most fucked up laws ever. Dont know what to tell you, except to move. I'd like to live there because of how beautiful it is, but its much too restrictive on things I like to do such as offroading and shooting, etc.
        Last edited by Mr Pheer; 06-12-2009, 10:25 AM.

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        • Sly
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          • Sep 2004
          • 31377

          #5
          Originally posted by Mr Pheer
          What state is doing this?
          The great state of California.

          They have the neatest laws.
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          • BradM
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            • Dec 2003
            • 3397

            #6
            I am really tired of government putting their dipsticks SO FAR up my personal life's ass.

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            • Sly
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              • Sep 2004
              • 31377

              #7
              Northern and Southern California are so different... you guys should split up. The politics of Southern California are going to impact Northern California more and more.
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              • IllTestYourGirls
                Ah My Balls
                • Feb 2007
                • 14311

                #8
                There is an exodus out of Cali because their socialism/fascism is not working.

                What Cali takes in for revenue:
                Personal income tax down 39.3%
                Corporate taxes down 52.1
                Sales tax down 7.6%

                http://www.reuters.com/article/newsO...55974820090610

                More stupid shit laws like the homeschooling laws and these gun laws will drive out the rest of those who wish to live freely.

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                • RyuLion
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 32364

                  #9
                  I can see how a gun could be for recreation, but have you guys ever used your gun to defend yourself?

                  Another question.

                  Do you need a gun to Feel secure?

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                  • DWB
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 31779

                    #10
                    That's the bitter sweet taste of freedom.

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                    • Sly
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                      • Sep 2004
                      • 31377

                      #11
                      Originally posted by RyuLion
                      I can see how a gun could be for recreation, but have you guys ever used your gun to defend yourself?

                      Another question.

                      Do you need a gun to Feel secure?
                      A better question is why does the state want to punish thousands of gun owners that are responsible and properly handle their weapons due to felons and ex-convicts acquiring weapons illegally?
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                      • IllTestYourGirls
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                        • Feb 2007
                        • 14311

                        #12
                        Originally posted by RyuLion
                        I can see how a gun could be for recreation, but have you guys ever used your gun to defend yourself?

                        Another question.

                        Do you need a gun to Feel secure?
                        The second amendment has little to do with recreation, personal protection and/or hunting.

                        With that said I dont own any guns or weapons.

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                        • RyuLion
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 32364

                          #13
                          I feel safe/secure without a gun -btw

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                          • Vendzilla
                            Biker Gnome
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 23200

                            #14
                            the superior court already ruled on weapons,we have the right to own them

                            As far as feeling safe, if you put out on your front door a NRA sticker, chances of someone wanting to commit a crime on your property just went down, Criminals prefer those that are UNARMED
                            Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                            think about that

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                            • pornguy
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 62910

                              #15
                              They are fucking idiots..

                              Honestly. If they said. If you dont by from a licensed dealer we REQUEST that you pay 10% tax on what you got. The Basic Value.. Would you do it??? I sure as hell would. It helps us all
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                              • jmcb420
                                So Fucking Drunk
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 2155

                                #16
                                Originally posted by RyuLion
                                I can see how a gun could be for recreation, but have you guys ever used your gun to defend yourself?

                                Another question.

                                Do you need a gun to Feel secure?
                                I have guns (certian ones) strictly for recreation. Others for sport (I hunt..) and one that I carry almost always as I am cleared to legally carry a firearm in Ohio.

                                I dont feel any less safe when I dont carry then when I do. I'm a rare breed, I will admit that 90% of the people who legally do own guns shouldn't be allowed to own guns at all.

                                Criminals will always have them, no matter what. Thats why laws like this bother me.

                                What is going on in Cali isn't good. I dont live there anymore, but since I still live in the states I'm aware that what happens in one place is likely to have an effect elsewhere. I hope that shit fails, and I pray we dont see it here should the "great" state of California pass it.

                                That said I must also say, since it is California, it will likely pass and another piece of our freedom is out the fucking window.
                                Last edited by jmcb420; 06-12-2009, 12:04 PM. Reason: "likely"
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                                • sandman!
                                  Icq: 14420613
                                  • Mar 2001
                                  • 15427

                                  #17
                                  reason #184 that i would never live in cali.

                                  seems like cali is the birth of every fucked up law i have seen.
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                                  • V_RocKs
                                    Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                    • Nov 2003
                                    • 32448

                                    #18
                                    What ever... I will still buy my ammo from my friends dad.

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                                    • Vendzilla
                                      Biker Gnome
                                      • Mar 2004
                                      • 23200

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                      What ever... I will still buy my ammo from my friends dad.
                                      I guess i'll help my dad reload now, make it a joint effort and that way get around it
                                      Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                      think about that

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                                      • TheDoc
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Jul 2001
                                        • 13827

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                        the superior court already ruled on weapons,we have the right to own them

                                        As far as feeling safe, if you put out on your front door a NRA sticker, chances of someone wanting to commit a crime on your property just went down, Criminals prefer those that are UNARMED
                                        Correct, we do have the right to own guns.. but it doesn't say we have the rights to ammo. That's the nasty they are working.... wait until the tax goes up.

                                        And if you can make ammo, the Gov wants to know because under some other law, they have the rights buy/take the ammo, or a % of it, before you can use or sell it.
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                                        • pussyluver
                                          Clueless OleMan
                                          • Mar 2003
                                          • 11009

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by RyuLion
                                          I can see how a gun could be for recreation, but have you guys ever used your gun to defend yourself?

                                          Another question.

                                          Do you need a gun to Feel secure?
                                          yes 45678

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                                          • IllTestYourGirls
                                            Ah My Balls
                                            • Feb 2007
                                            • 14311

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by TheDoc
                                            Correct, we do have the right to own guns.. but it doesn't say we have the rights to ammo. That's the nasty they are working.... wait until the tax goes up.

                                            And if you can make ammo, the Gov wants to know because under some other law, they have the rights buy/take the ammo, or a % of it, before you can use or sell it.
                                            Is a bullet an arm?

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                                            • Kevin Marx
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                                              • Apr 2007
                                              • 1888

                                              #23
                                              welcome to the new world. it's just going to get weirder and weirder as the days go by.
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                                              • geedub
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                                                • Jun 2005
                                                • 3489

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Sly
                                                The great state of California.

                                                They have the neatest laws.
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                                                • bluemoney
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                                                  • May 2007
                                                  • 802

                                                  #25
                                                  I have personally stopped a potential crime twice by pulling my .357 and holding it by my side. Never fired a shot.

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                                                  • baddog
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                    • 107089

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by RyuLion
                                                    I feel safe/secure without a gun -btw
                                                    So, don't get one. Leave those of us that do like them alone.

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                                                    • TheDoc
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                      • 13827

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by IllTestYourGirls
                                                      Is a bullet an arm?
                                                      Nope, it's a bullet... just like arms doesn't mean a rocket launcher or a tank..
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                                                      • iseeyou
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Feb 2006
                                                        • 306

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Sly
                                                        A better question is why does the state want to punish thousands of gun owners that are responsible and properly handle their weapons due to felons and ex-convicts acquiring weapons illegally?
                                                        Because it is much easier to control honest, peaceful people. Apprehending violent criminals with weapons is simply too dangerous.

                                                        You may find this funny, but this is not a joke.

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                                                        • IllTestYourGirls
                                                          Ah My Balls
                                                          • Feb 2007
                                                          • 14311

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by iseeyou
                                                          Because it is much easier to control honest, peaceful people. Apprehending violent criminals with weapons is simply too dangerous.

                                                          You may find this funny, but this is not a joke.
                                                          The second amendment is not worried with the people it is worried about the government.

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                                                          • Sly
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                                                            • Sep 2004
                                                            • 31377

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by IllTestYourGirls
                                                            The second amendment is not worried with the people it is worried about the government.
                                                            His answer was referring to why politicians want to punish the innocent, not about the Second Amendment and its intentions.
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                                                            • IllTestYourGirls
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                                                              • Feb 2007
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Sly
                                                              His answer was referring to why politicians want to punish the innocent, not about the Second Amendment and its intentions.
                                                              ok

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                                                              • iseeyou
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                                                                • Feb 2006
                                                                • 306

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Sly
                                                                His answer was referring to why politicians want to punish the innocent, not about the Second Amendment and its intentions.
                                                                Thanks, Sly. I will further add that this is a proposed California law and not US federal law.

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                                                                • Furious_Male
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                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                  • 16884

                                                                  #33
                                                                  They have slowly been chipping away at gun owners for a long time now. I don't think its going to stop anytime soon either. Cali won't be the only state to adopt this law I am sure others will follow.
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                                                                  • Vendzilla
                                                                    Biker Gnome
                                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                                    • 23200

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I just don't get it, if they would do something about the people that own guns that were doing so illegaly, thats one thing, but why are they going after people that own them legally? Thats why they are MORONS! and we elected them, time for a shake up! Remeber that this is a constitutional right, how many rights do you think you will loose after they take away your guns?
                                                                    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                    think about that

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                                                                    • BV
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                                                                      • Sep 2001
                                                                      • 10914

                                                                      #35

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                                                                      • Vendzilla
                                                                        Biker Gnome
                                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                                        • 23200

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by BV
                                                                        NIce shot, save the meat!
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                                                                        Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                        think about that

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                                                                        • Kevin Marx
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Apr 2007
                                                                          • 1888

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by iseeyou
                                                                          Because it is much easier to control honest, peaceful people. Apprehending violent criminals with weapons is simply too dangerous.

                                                                          You may find this funny, but this is not a joke.
                                                                          Retracting the basic rights of the Bill of Rights is exactly what you are stating. It is much easier to control the honest, peaceful people. Controlling reloads is just a step in the direction of controlling the guns of the honest ones. No one really cares about controlling the criminals, because when push comes to shove, the criminals will get the weapons when they really want one. Criminals don't go and get their ID's checked and wait 7 days to get armed. They do it by nefarious means.

                                                                          Apprehending violent criminals with weapons????? They will always have weapons... even when the weapons are taken from the honest people. Plain and simple. It's ridiculous to think otherwise. Criminals don't follow the rules. If you Dis-arm the people, you simply make it easier for the "state" to control the people rather than the people controlling the state as it was intended from day 1.
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                                                                          • Vendzilla
                                                                            Biker Gnome
                                                                            • Mar 2004
                                                                            • 23200

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Jesus H Christ
                                                                            California is completely bankrupt, companies are moving out in droves, the property values have dropped 30%, and the people are just plain mad at the government. If I were in government in CA it might not be a bad idea. Seriously, just go to midway and buy a home reload kit and stock up on shells and bullets. You can always order the powder later if needed and "roll" your own. Plus when you find what your gun/rifle likes and it pulls tighter groups it's much more fun. Actually addicting and cost is a lot cheaper then you think.
                                                                            I hate gathering rounds from my AR-15, brass goes everywhere
                                                                            Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                            think about that

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                                                                            • Mr Pheer
                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                              • 22082

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                              I hate gathering rounds from my AR-15, brass goes everywhere
                                                                              You can buy brass catchers for them, they work pretty well.

                                                                              One of my AR15's fires the FN 5.7mm round. Has a FN P90 50-round magazine attached to the top of the upper receiver, and spits the brass out the regular magazine well. I use a hollowed out 30rd AR magazine to catch it.

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                                                                              • BFT3K
                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                • Dec 2005
                                                                                • 10764

                                                                                #40
                                                                                In some states you now have to fail an intelligence test in order to qualify to purchase a gun.

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                                                                                • Vendzilla
                                                                                  Biker Gnome
                                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                                  • 23200

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Mr Pheer
                                                                                  You can buy brass catchers for them, they work pretty well.

                                                                                  One of my AR15's fires the FN 5.7mm round. Has a FN P90 50-round magazine attached to the top of the upper receiver, and spits the brass out the regular magazine well. I use a hollowed out 30rd AR magazine to catch it.
                                                                                  More weight? No, I would rather have the extra weight of something that helps me hit the target, like maybe night optics?
                                                                                  HEhehehehe
                                                                                  Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                  think about that

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