I guess we don't have to worry about 2257 anymore

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  • Blackamooka
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2008
    • 495

    #1

    I guess we don't have to worry about 2257 anymore

    Microsoft is basically the largest porn site in the world now and I don't see a 2257 statement anywhere on their site, so why should we have to comply if they don't?
    Last edited by Blackamooka; 06-09-2009, 03:22 PM.
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  • pornguy
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    • Mar 2003
    • 62912

    #2
    Because they are backed by BILLIONS and you are not.
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    • baddog
      So Fucking Banned
      • Apr 2001
      • 107089

      #3
      Let me know how that works out for you.

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      • Blackamooka
        Confirmed User
        • Nov 2008
        • 495

        #4
        Obviously I don't intend to drop all my 2257's, that wasn't the point I was trying to make....
        The only way to comprehend what mathematicians mean by infinity is to contemplate the extent of human stupidity.

        - Voltaire

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        • Robbie
          Leaner, Meaner, Faster
          • Aug 2002
          • 20960

          #5
          I've never "worried" about it anyway. We've all been keeping records of id's and model releases for years before that even existed anyway. Just slight modification of record keeping is all it amounts to. Basically a way for them to "Gotcha" if they ever turn their eye on you. Remember Al Capone went to prison for accounting discrepancies on his taxes. If the govt. ever comes after you, they are gonna find a way one way or another to put you in prison. Hell, look at Max Hardcore. Shot porn with paid models and went to jail and the govt. took his stuff. Best just to not ever get on their radar screen.
          -Robbie
          ClaudiaMarie.Com

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          • xenigo
            Confirmed User
            • Jan 2001
            • 8067

            #6
            Originally posted by Blackamooka
            Obviously I don't intend to drop all my 2257's, that wasn't the point I was trying to make....
            Not all of them? Just some of them?

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            • pornlaw
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2007
              • 1902

              #7
              There are exceptions for tube sites within 28 CFR 75. I think Bing.com falls within those exceptions. Remember 2257 was made easier for mainstream and adult companies to comply with this last time around.
              Michael

              www.AdultBizLaw.com

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              • jakethedog
                Confirmed User
                • Jun 2004
                • 2497

                #8
                Originally posted by pornlaw
                There are exceptions for tube sites within 28 CFR 75. I think Bing.com falls within those exceptions. Remember 2257 was made easier for mainstream and adult companies to comply with this last time around.
                And your thoughts on "Anti-piracy" in this issue if you could .. I am totally beside my self with this whole MS/Bing thing ...
                No sig .. just me

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                • pornlaw
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 1902

                  #9
                  In regards to "anti-piracy" are you talking about Bing's ability to play the video directly within their site ? I assume you wouldnt care if they would send traffic to your site.
                  Michael

                  www.AdultBizLaw.com

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                  • candyflip
                    Carpe Visio
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 43069

                    #10
                    I notice that a few of the bigger sites who are indexed on Bing are redirecting the traffic to their main pages and not the page the video is on.

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                    • DaddyHalbucks
                      A freakin' legend!
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 18975

                      #11
                      I'd still worry.
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                      • jakethedog
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 2497

                        #12
                        Originally posted by pornlaw
                        In regards to "anti-piracy" are you talking about Bing's ability to play the video directly within their site ? I assume you wouldnt care if they would send traffic to your site.
                        hopefully my content never ends up on there after being stolen .. it would make it no better than any of the large pirate tubes ..But I am sure there is already stolen content on there from companies trying to make some money in this shit economy .. that is what I am talking about .. making Bing no better than the rest, making our lives hell ..
                        No sig .. just me

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                        • SilentKnight
                          Megan Fox's fluffer
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 24818

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Blackamooka
                          Microsoft is basically the largest porn site in the world now and I don't see a 2257 statement anywhere on their site, so why should we have to comply if they don't?
                          Because justice is two-tiered ... you're on the lower tier.

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                          • $5 submissions
                            I help you SUCCEED
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 32195

                            #14
                            2257's sub issues haven't been fully litigated yet. In particular, the intersection between 2257 and the DMCA

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                            • Blackamooka
                              Confirmed User
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 495

                              #15
                              Well, I don't bitch about illegal tubes usually, because up until now I considered them to be the underbelly of the adult webmaster world and there is nothing I can do about it. But now one of the largest corporations in the world has legitimized them all. It's a big fat "fuck you" to everyone that has playing by the rules all along and I think people should be up in arms about this, but I guess I'm not surprised by everyone's complacency.

                              Anyways, that's my rant and now I'll go back to playing by the rules until the thieves have completely won.
                              Last edited by Blackamooka; 06-09-2009, 06:56 PM.
                              The only way to comprehend what mathematicians mean by infinity is to contemplate the extent of human stupidity.

                              - Voltaire

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                              • Snake Doctor
                                I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                • Mar 2001
                                • 13449

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Blackamooka
                                Microsoft is basically the largest porn site in the world now and I don't see a 2257 statement anywhere on their site, so why should we have to comply if they don't?
                                Let me know what the judge says when you present that argument to him.


                                As to your other statements, alot of people are up in arms about it, but what the fuck can they do?

                                Nothing.

                                So you're better off trying to find a way to profit in the current environment rather than getting your blood pressure up worrying about what everyone else is doing.
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                                • Rochard
                                  Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                  • Dec 2001
                                  • 75733

                                  #17
                                  Doesn't this make M$ a secondary producer?

                                  Fucking sweet.
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                                  Brooklyn, NY

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                                  • Barefootsies
                                    Choice is an Illusion
                                    • Feb 2005
                                    • 42635

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by pornguy
                                    Because they are backed by BILLIONS and you are not.
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                                    • Paul Markham
                                      Too old to care
                                      • Jun 2001
                                      • 52942

                                      #19
                                      I've been 2257 compliant for about 25 years and would not have it any other way. 2257 or keeping records that fulfill 2257 is for my benefit.

                                      (A) I make sure the model is over 18.
                                      (B) She is made to produce her documents for copying and has a clue this is a professional shoot.
                                      (C) She signs a dated model release clearly stating I own the rights on her image on the content.
                                      (D) If I buy in or broker I know the supplier is doing his job right and covering my ass.

                                      As probably the only person here who has stood in front of a judge the fact that ALL my content was legal was something my lawyer rammed down the prosecutions throat when he brought the question of under age content up.

                                      I don't think "I'm exempt because....." would of gone down very well with the judge.

                                      With all the under age girls exchanging nude images and videos of themselves on chat rooms it is unbelievable how lax some people are about a bit of paperwork.



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                                      • Barefootsies
                                        Choice is an Illusion
                                        • Feb 2005
                                        • 42635

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                        As probably the only person here who has stood in front of a judge the fact that ALL my content was legal was something my lawyer rammed down the prosecutions throat when he brought the question of under age content up.
                                        Should You Email Your Members?

                                        Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                                        Enough Said.

                                        "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                                        • Jack Sparrow
                                          Almost goners..
                                          • May 2008
                                          • 11420

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by pornguy
                                          Because they are backed by BILLIONS and you are not.
                                          Amen to that

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                                          • kmanrox
                                            aka K-Man
                                            • Oct 2001
                                            • 29295

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by pornguy
                                            Because they are backed by BILLIONS and you are not.
                                            ha! speak for yourself!!!
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                                            • Chosen
                                              • Aug 2001
                                              • 63151

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by kmanrox
                                              ha! speak for yourself!!!

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