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archer · 11-29-2002, 02:10 PM

Mr. Tiarra

I do not that you have adequately answered my point regarding non employees using your company's email address.

I think that you must admiy that the potential for a client to misunderstand the relationship is large. In my situation who was I to tell the difference when both of you were responding from the same email address?

Now as to your point regarding Tony working for MaxCash. You did not reveal at the time of our correspondence that he worked for maximum cash.

I consider you being guilty of the "sin of omission"

Had you told me that at the time and 'when the iron was hot' that he worked at Maxcash I would have emailed them with the same question I asked you:

"Is it your corporate policy to hire designers who stiff their clients?"

now, a couple of years after the fact, i'm gonna look pretty fucking stupid writing that.

but i will write. Anyone on the board know who's a good person at maxcash to talk to?

thinking about this has gotten me as mad now as i was then

MarkTiarra · 11-29-2002, 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by archer
Mr. Tiarra

I do not that you have adequately answered my point regarding non employees using your company's email address.

I think that you must admiy that the potential for a client to misunderstand the relationship is large. In my situation who was I to tell the difference when both of you were responding from the same email address?

Now as to your point regarding Tony working for MaxCash. You did not reveal at the time of our correspondence that he worked for maximum cash.

I consider you being guilty of the "sin of omission"

Had you told me that at the time and 'when the iron was hot' that he worked at Maxcash I would have emailed them with the same question I asked you:

"Is it your corporate policy to hire designers who stiff their clients?"

now, a couple of years after the fact, i'm gonna look pretty fucking stupid writing that.

but i will write. Anyone on the board know who's a good person at maxcash to talk to?

thinking about this has gotten me as mad now as i was then

Please correct that we didn't write form the same email address just both from @tiarracorp.com. And I would say that considering your take on the situation that it was a bad idea to let people I was close to keep email addresses.

As for Tony's employment at Max Cash, I think it happened right about when you came to me. He would more accurately recall. I think you contacted me, I referred you and that same week he took the full time position.

All that crap is kinda moot on my side though because the fact is that you raised the issue with me and you are upset with my referall. All I can offer is to do the work for you myself instead or something similar since I'm sure it's long since done.

[The Leader] · 11-29-2002, 02:36 PM

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Originally posted by quiet

apparently he posts here

so I hear

[The Leader] · 11-29-2002, 02:39 PM

This whole thing is stupid. Lumyr has been a top designer for years, and I've never heard a bad word about them. He makes a bad refferal two years ago, and now he gets slammed on GFY, on Thanksgiving no less.

ah hem: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...rule+ch anges

JamesK · 11-29-2002, 02:41 PM

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Originally posted by MarkTiarra

Please correct that we didn't write form the same email address just both from @tiarracorp.com. And I would say that considering your take on the situation that it was a bad idea to let people I was close to keep email addresses.

As for Tony's employment at Max Cash, I think it happened right about when you came to me. He would more accurately recall. I think you contacted me, I referred you and that same week he took the full time position.

All that crap is kinda moot on my side though because the fact is that you raised the issue with me and you are upset with my referall. All I can offer is to do the work for you myself instead or something similar since I'm sure it's long since done.

just give him the cash and he'll be fine yo.

[The Leader] · 11-29-2002, 02:47 PM

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Originally posted by Wildcard

just give him the cash and he'll be fine yo.

Mark should pay him?

LOL, if you reffer me to a host, and they end up sucking and the downtime that costs me $10k, I'm comming to you for the cash.

MarkTiarra · 11-29-2002, 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by [The Leader]

Mark should pay him?

LOL, if you reffer me to a host, and they end up sucking and the downtime that costs me $10k, I'm comming to you for the cash.

Thank you... I was starting to think sanity was out of style. Look, I'm willing to do some work for it just because two people have told me that Archer is a stand-up guy now I feel bad that a referall I made didn't work out. At the time he contacted me initialy he was all angry trying to blame me as if it was my own personal work and I reacted thusly. But from speaking here it's obvious the guy thought I was trying to hide behind something and when two people I respect tell me he is okay, then I believe that. So anyway... Archer, email me [email protected] and let me do what I can to at least make it not a total waste for you.

archer · 11-29-2002, 03:24 PM

thank you mark, i appreciate the post.

A very public thank you for your kind offer.

Sometime things go wrong and obviously in this case, things did.

A public apology on my part: I never meant to appear to slam or defame you. If it came across that way, I apologize. I was just trying to make my point.

My adventure with Uncle Tony was not only my first public venture in the field but the first time I'd done business on the net. Trust a virgin's first time experience to be a bad one.

Mind you, I'd still like to rip his balls off and feed them to him for breakfast but i'll guess i'll have to wait on that.

If anyone knows this guy; if he posts here under an alias; or who would be a good person at maxcash to write to let them know what they have working for them, you can always get a hold of me at webmaster at gayfucksites dot com (soon to be relaunched, yeah!)

MarkTiarra · 11-29-2002, 04:06 PM

Well that's okay. My biggest problem is that for whatever reason this week two things decided to come up that were both not anything malevolent on my part but when this kind of stuff happens, it's like the analogy I used before of someone accused of abuse... once the allegation is made the damage is done.

That's why I always try to give people the benefit of the doubt and contact them first (which in your case, I will say you did way back when but we didn't understand one another at all). I guess this is why suits for slander and defamation became realities. I doubt very many people badmouth one another with truly ill intent, but harm can still be done. =[

Quote:

Originally posted by archer
thank you mark, i appreciate the post.

A very public thank you for your kind offer.

Sometime things go wrong and obviously in this case, things did.

A public apology on my part: I never meant to appear to slam or defame you. If it came across that way, I apologize. I was just trying to make my point.

My adventure with Uncle Tony was not only my first public venture in the field but the first time I'd done business on the net. Trust a virgin's first time experience to be a bad one.

Mind you, I'd still like to rip his balls off and feed them to him for breakfast but i'll guess i'll have to wait on that.

If anyone knows this guy; if he posts here under an alias; or who would be a good person at maxcash to write to let them know what they have working for them, you can always get a hold of me at webmaster at gayfucksites dot com (soon to be relaunched, yeah!)

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archer Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 1,721	Mr. Tiarra I do not that you have adequately answered my point regarding non employees using your company's email address. I think that you must admiy that the potential for a client to misunderstand the relationship is large. In my situation who was I to tell the difference when both of you were responding from the same email address? Now as to your point regarding Tony working for MaxCash. You did not reveal at the time of our correspondence that he worked for maximum cash. I consider you being guilty of the "sin of omission" Had you told me that at the time and 'when the iron was hot' that he worked at Maxcash I would have emailed them with the same question I asked you: "Is it your corporate policy to hire designers who stiff their clients?" now, a couple of years after the fact, i'm gonna look pretty fucking stupid writing that. but i will write. Anyone on the board know who's a good person at maxcash to talk to? thinking about this has gotten me as mad now as i was then __________________ Looking to promote uncut cock? Check out Uncut Cash. It rocks.

11-29-2002, 03:24 PM	#58
archer Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 1,721	thank you mark, i appreciate the post. A very public thank you for your kind offer. Sometime things go wrong and obviously in this case, things did. A public apology on my part: I never meant to appear to slam or defame you. If it came across that way, I apologize. I was just trying to make my point. My adventure with Uncle Tony was not only my first public venture in the field but the first time I'd done business on the net. Trust a virgin's first time experience to be a bad one. Mind you, I'd still like to rip his balls off and feed them to him for breakfast but i'll guess i'll have to wait on that. If anyone knows this guy; if he posts here under an alias; or who would be a good person at maxcash to write to let them know what they have working for them, you can always get a hold of me at webmaster at gayfucksites dot com (soon to be relaunched, yeah!) __________________ Looking to promote uncut cock? Check out Uncut Cash. It rocks.

11-29-2002, 02:39 PM	#54
[The Leader] Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Van City Posts: 1,026	This whole thing is stupid. Lumyr has been a top designer for years, and I've never heard a bad word about them. He makes a bad refferal two years ago, and now he gets slammed on GFY, on Thanksgiving no less. ah hem: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...rule+ch anges