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count of monte cristo · 06-09-2009, 11:23 AM

by then bandwidth prices should hit 10 cents a meg. i wonder if there will be a way to make money off of most of the video bw other than ads by then

What is driving this growth is video. Cisco forecasts that 90 percent of consumer IP traffic (which makes up the majority of total IP traffic) will be video in 2013. Cisco also predicts that mobile data traffic will also be overtaken by video, reaching 64 percent of total mobile IP traffic by 2013.

http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/09...ent-of-mobile/

Fletch XXX · 06-09-2009, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by count of monte cristo

by then bandwidth prices should hit 10 cents a meg.

they want to raise the cost of bandwidth not lower it for consumers heheh

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...-data-caps.ars

Loch · 06-09-2009, 11:33 AM

Interesting but not really new information.....BW must go up at some point though, well that or the servers will be more costly.

jcsike · 06-09-2009, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

they want to raise the cost of bandwidth not lower it for consumers heheh

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...-data-caps.ars

of course, once the systems are set up and functioning, the cost is just what it takes to maintain the networks and pay back the initial cost of setting it all up.

the more they charge, the more they make.

but the problem is competition among the other telcoms

hjnet · 06-09-2009, 11:43 AM

A "meg" stands for "Mega Bit per Second" I guess? That would be really cheap then

spider_x · 06-09-2009, 11:53 AM

there's nothing after 2012 so this thread is pointless

Choopa Phil · 06-09-2009, 12:03 PM

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there's nothing after 2012 so this thread is pointless

I had to LOL @ that one. Yea, i mean at the rate video is growing now it was only a matter of time

seeandsee · 06-09-2009, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by spider_x

there's nothing after 2012 so this thread is pointless

yea fucking end :d

u-Bob · 06-09-2009, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by spider_x

there's nothing after 2012 so this thread is pointless

RayBonga · 06-09-2009, 01:28 PM

has you setup the infrstructure marginal cost is close to zero, bandwith being a commodity I see no way of a long term price increase (unless some establishs a monolopy, what seems really unlikely to me).

marketsmart · 06-09-2009, 01:47 PM

bandwidth will never go up, it will only continue to drop.

what will go up is core infrastructure like power which will increase hosting costs, but i dont know if that will makeup the difference lost in bandwidth price reduction..

Supz · 06-09-2009, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

bandwidth will never go up, it will only continue to drop.

what will go up is core infrastructure like power which will increase hosting costs, but i dont know if that will makeup the difference lost in bandwidth price reduction..

You are wrong on this. With virtualization being in every datacenter now. Everything is about going green. Lowering the carbon footprint. People are doing much more with much less now.

Rodent · 06-09-2009, 05:20 PM

Man I wish AT&T would come out with better plans. 6Mbit is crap when Fios and Cable are so much quicker

marketsmart · 06-09-2009, 05:26 PM

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You are wrong on this. With virtualization being in every datacenter now. Everything is about going green. Lowering the carbon footprint. People are doing much more with much less now.

Sorry, but you are wrong. Ask a data center owner about this. Sure, going green can help but as racks get more and more packed with servers, the more power they are consuming with additional amps per sq ft and the cooling required to keep the temp/humidity at the correct level.

jcsike · 06-09-2009, 05:41 PM

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Sorry, but you are wrong. Ask a data center owner about this. Sure, going green can help but as racks get more and more packed with servers, the more power they are consuming with additional amps per sq ft and the cooling required to keep the temp/humidity at the correct level.

the drive to keep costs at the same level or smaller will drive the innovation to figure out how to costs for hosting

if it comes down to everyone getting their bw prices raised (as well as that potentially causing some business models to go kaput) or some guy or company inventing something that would lower costs, i would always bet on market innovation

marketsmart · 06-09-2009, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jcsike

the drive to keep costs at the same level or smaller will drive the innovation to figure out how to costs for hosting

if it comes down to everyone getting their bw prices raised (as well as that potentially causing some business models to go kaput) or some guy or company inventing something that would lower costs, i would always bet on market innovation

I agree with you, but I also know that b/w pricing is only going to get lower. The carriers fucked up the whole b/w model by trying to out drop each other. Also, technology had played a major role in lower b/w prices. DWDM alone has allowed for exponential growth in capacity without dropping a ton of new fiber in the ground.

The only thing that is getting more expensive is power and i dont see technology keeping up with the demand, so its difficult to see that part of the equation getting cheaper..

Spudstr · 06-09-2009, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

bandwidth will never go up, it will only continue to drop.

what will go up is core infrastructure like power which will increase hosting costs, but i dont know if that will makeup the difference lost in bandwidth price reduction..

So wrong. We will never reach zero/Mbps. As is with the cost of network equipment not being cheap really anything below 2/Mbps mark isn't very profitable after you factor in staff/hardware costs.

Spudstr · 06-09-2009, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

I agree with you, but I also know that b/w pricing is only going to get lower. The carriers fucked up the whole b/w model by trying to out drop each other. Also, technology had played a major role in lower b/w prices. DWDM alone has allowed for exponential growth in capacity without dropping a ton of new fiber in the ground.

The only thing that is getting more expensive is power and i dont see technology keeping up with the demand, so its difficult to see that part of the equation getting cheaper..

We were quoted by cienna networks 30-40k per 10G/wave for our DWDM equipment if we went with that vender. Until cisco and friends decide to take less profits network gear isn't going to drop. Cisco is already sitting on ~30billion in cash.. Overpriced don't we think?

$5 submissions · 06-09-2009, 07:20 PM

Overbuild, Fill up, overbuild, the cycle continues. Unless the market gets overconsolidated, the consumer is the winner.

Supz · 06-09-2009, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

Sorry, but you are wrong. Ask a data center owner about this. Sure, going green can help but as racks get more and more packed with servers, the more power they are consuming with additional amps per sq ft and the cooling required to keep the temp/humidity at the correct level.

What I am telling you is that racks aren't getting more packed. They are getting less. I do capacity planning every day for datacenters. Maybe in the hosting world. But there are many datacenters outside the hosting world. There are plenty of companies who have in-house datacenters. For the most part only hosting Disaster Recovery in a datacenter.

Supz · 06-09-2009, 07:55 PM

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So wrong. We will never reach zero/Mbps. As is with the cost of network equipment not being cheap really anything below 2/Mbps mark isn't very profitable after you factor in staff/hardware costs.

This is also true. The new "Unified Computing" technology that Cisco is pitching is only getting more expensive. There pitch is for a more eco friendly datacenter. They started selling blade servers, pushing Nexus virtual switches and you unified comminications. You can run everything on cisco now.

marketsmart · 06-09-2009, 07:55 PM

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So wrong. We will never reach zero/Mbps. As is with the cost of network equipment not being cheap really anything below 2/Mbps mark isn't very profitable after you factor in staff/hardware costs.

Please highlight where I said b/w will go to $0...

I said b/w will never go UP in price...

I accept your apology....

tony286 · 06-09-2009, 07:57 PM

I think production values are going to get much higher.The net is going to be more and more the tv in the home. As far as people paying, they pay for monthly recurring now for hbo or showtime.That model isnt going anywhere.

tony286 · 06-09-2009, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

they want to raise the cost of bandwidth not lower it for consumers heheh

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...-data-caps.ars

its so weird they are making the connections faster and faster and now they want to cap. They dont like not having control, it wasnt for government funding to build the infrastructure they wouldnt have to internet service to sell.

Spudstr · 06-09-2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

Please highlight where I said b/w will go to $0...

I said b/w will never go UP in price...

I accept your apology....

my bad, bad wording its like approaching zero, but i doubt we'll see much activity below 2/Mbps ton the hosts/isp side. Consumers, i.e webmasters might see sub 2/Mbps here and there but it will be very difficult to see/get there.

I wouldn't be surprised to see BW go up in price when/if we ever come out of this economic depression.

Prices are cheap right now because everyones trying to fill all their capacity and having fire sales. what do you think is going to happen when. A. capacity is met/getting there and have to buy/upgrade or B. the economy gets better? prices will go up a little bit.

All its going to take is some major Tier1 or Tier2 network to go belly up before this happens as well.

hypedough · 06-09-2009, 08:15 PM

That's a bold prediction coming from this guy...

jcsike · 06-10-2009, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Spudstr

my bad, bad wording its like approaching zero, but i doubt we'll see much activity below 2/Mbps ton the hosts/isp side. Consumers, i.e webmasters might see sub 2/Mbps here and there but it will be very difficult to see/get there.

I wouldn't be surprised to see BW go up in price when/if we ever come out of this economic depression.

Prices are cheap right now because everyones trying to fill all their capacity and having fire sales. what do you think is going to happen when. A. capacity is met/getting there and have to buy/upgrade or B. the economy gets better? prices will go up a little bit.

All its going to take is some major Tier1 or Tier2 network to go belly up before this happens as well.

it will be tough for a business owner to swallow paying more than they were before for bw. if anyone ever told me my price was going up, there are a hundred hosts hungry for my business and im sure one or more of them have figured out how to make me happy

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