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nation-x 06-05-2009 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 15929077)
3000 US citizens killed vs over 100,000 Iraqi citizens killed. Do the fucking math. Even a GFY idiot like yourself can see that this is going to bring serious trouble to the door steps of the USA, and it will be deserved. That's what happens to bullies. Sooner or later someone gives them a serious beat down.

quoted for truth :2 cents:

DWB 06-05-2009 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 15929041)
I don't think that reality matches your assertion here... there may be a couple of Bush policies that Obama has kept for now... but Bush WAS a president... so why would Obama overturn them all. As far as I can see... in 5 months he has already accomplished quite a bit.

I am not sure why you think he can't make things happen... he already has.

He is a great speaker and a big planner.

Hey, I hope he proves me wrong. I really do. But it takes a little more that the president saying he is going to do something in order for it to get done. Closing Gitmo without a plan? Come on. Saying he is going to pull out combat brigades from Iraq but failing to say he is just changing the names for the troops he is leaving there and he is NOT ordering out the private military groups who have done more murdering than anyone and is hired by the US government, it's all just laughable. He is blowing serious smoke up everyone's ass right now and the world is eating it up, just like they did during the election.

He is one of the best showmen in US history. I'll give him that.

DWB 06-05-2009 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Judy_eroads (Post 15929083)
But I do believe that Obama is the Only One who can save Us Economy.!

Obama has nothing to do with it. All he is going to do is print and borrow more money to put a band-aid on the real problem.

This is WAY bigger than Obama.

With that said, this has been a long time coming. Again, the world is reaping what it has sowed, just on a economic level. And it's going to get much worse than this. We may stick a band-aid on it, but the pain has yet to come.


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Originally Posted by who (Post 15929091)
OMG I feel sick. I support some of DWB's opinions.

Say it ain't so.

borked 06-05-2009 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 15928998)

He has a lot of great ideas but no way to make them happen. No real plan other that keep giving great speeches.

Hang on, from a person's perspective that isn't living in America and abused by the US news, how can he have no way to not make them happen? I he not the US president? If that means he has no way to make them happen....

I know what you're saying though - he has plans, but no idea how to implement them, but then again isn't that what advisor's are for? Isn't that what his appointed employees are for?

If you want an idea as to what a guy who knows how to speak well can do, and how dangerous he can be, look toward France. In his first 10 months, he did very little, but once all the pieces were in place, the tornado arrived without relent.

Maybe I'm wrong, but it looks like his pieces are being put into play before the real game begins.

DWB 06-05-2009 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 15929077)
3000 US citizens killed vs over 100,000 Iraqi citizens killed.

I want to be clear on this, when I say OVER, I mean way over.

Some reports are saying it could be 100,000 - 1,000,000, as they are finding many more dead that are first reported.

This can not be dismissed as Casualties Of War. This is borderline genocide.

Over 2 million displaced Iraqi refugees who have had to leave their country. Some reports say around 20,000 Iraqis have been detained by US forces.

And they want us to believe it's all over 3000 Americans and WMDs? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

It's madness. Where does it end?

marketsmart 06-05-2009 02:17 PM

Obama is the greatest president ever.. he turns rain into rainbows..... :thumbsup

DWB 06-05-2009 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by borked (Post 15929148)
Hang on, from a person's perspective that isn't living in America and abused by the US news, how can he have no way to not make them happen? I he not the US president? If that means he has no way to make them happen....

I know what you're saying though - he has plans, but no idea how to implement them, but then again isn't that what advisor's are for? Isn't that what his appointed employees are for?

If you want an idea as to what a guy who knows how to speak well can do, and how dangerous he can be, look toward France. In his first 10 months, he did very little, but once all the pieces were in place, the tornado arrived without relent.

Maybe I'm wrong, but it looks like his pieces are being put into play before the real game begins.

Perhaps he CAN make some things happen, and I'm sure he will. I hope he does! But right now, he is making promises his ass can't keep. His ideas and plans have to be voted on. Just because he wants to do something, it doesn't mean he can do it. There are checks and balances in place for this very reason. Though, Bush didn't seem to worry about those so perhaps Obama won't either.

I was rooting for him out of the gate. And when I hear him talk, I think he is brilliant. But in reality, he has never be in charge of anything and now he's running the nation.

However, I think him reaching out to the Muslim world is a very good idea. The USA is going to need all the Muslim ass kissing he can do over the next few years. He needs to be kissing everyones ass, and he is doing so. So maybe, just maybe it will pay off in the end. Buuuut.... just in time for some other dip shit to take office and screw it all up again.

borked 06-05-2009 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 15929191)
There are checks and balances in place for this very reason.

As there are in lots of other countries, but it doesn't stop someone with an ability to charm to go lobbying with a big bait.... that is how the locks are broken down

Bryan G 06-05-2009 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Judy_eroads (Post 15929094)
Did you listen to his 6000 words speech? Maybe you'll understand what I mean if you were listening to it.

I heard bits and pieces of it. In no way shape or form did he say he is pro-islam. He is trying to mend relations, thats all.

DWB 06-05-2009 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by borked (Post 15929148)
Hang on, from a person's perspective that isn't living in America and abused by the US news...

That is one good thing about not living there. I get news from all over the world and they often tell a very different story than American media. There is no censor on many of these stations, showing blood and guts sometimes. It's gnarly. But some of the reporting is incredible as well as the stories they run.

Also, because of where I am, I happen to have contact with guys who work for PMCs in both Afghanistan and Iraq, who come to Thailand for holiday. Some of the stories these guys tell, OMFG, and some of the photos and video they bring with them, OMFGx2. It paints a totally different picture than what Americans believe is going on. It's a mess and it's down right brutal murder. And when the US military can't do it, they bring in the mercs to do it. It's all just horrible.

DWB 06-05-2009 02:29 PM

Fiddy closet Muslims.


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Originally Posted by borked (Post 15929203)
As there are in lots of other countries, but it doesn't stop someone with an ability to charm to go lobbying with a big bait.... that is how the locks are broken down

Hey, I hope you're right and I'm wrong on this issue. I take no pride in watching the USA fall to pieces. I'm angry as hell, no denying that, but I hope someday I can again be proud to say I'm American.


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Originally Posted by Platinum Bryan (Post 15929210)
I heard bits and pieces of it. In no way shape or form did he say he is pro-islam. He is trying to mend relations, thats all.

I think this is one place he is doing the right thing. He needs to med relations all around the world while he still has rock star status.


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