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NBC terminates Arnett after Iraqi TV interview

03-31-2003, 05:31 AM

http://www.msnbc.com/news/893115.asp

?IT WAS wrong for Peter Arnett to grant an interview to state controlled Iraqi TV ? especially at a time of war ? and it was wrong for him to discuss his personal observations and opinions in that interview,? NBC News President Neal Shapiro said in a statement. ?Therefore, Peter Arnett will no longer be reporting for NBC News and MSNBC.?

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03-31-2003, 05:38 AM

Originally posted by quiet
http://www.msnbc.com/news/893115.asp

hmm.

How dare he state the truth...
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03-31-2003, 05:43 AM

Fucking moron. You would think that with so much experience in the field he would know that journalists need to take an objective approach to everything.
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03-31-2003, 05:46 AM

"He went to Iraq this year not as an NBC News reporter but as an employee of ?National Geographic Explorer.? When other NBC reporters left Baghdad for safety reasons, the network began airing his reports."

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03-31-2003, 05:48 AM

I had just read his page on the National Geographic site the other day too. A UK newspaper, the guardian, had a report about the incident earlier that indicated NBC and National Geographic both supported Peter Arnett's interview. Maybe they had a change of heart.

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03-31-2003, 05:49 AM

Originally posted by hybrid
Fucking moron. You would think that with so much experience in the field he would know that journalists need to take an objective approach to everything.

He was being objective he forgot one thing.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media."

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03-31-2003, 06:06 AM

and now it seems Geraldo Rivera is being booted out of his embedded position, and from Iraq. hehe...

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03-31-2003, 08:10 AM

I say it was WRONG to expell Arnett...

he did NOTHING wrong...
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03-31-2003, 08:16 AM

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03-31-2003, 08:52 AM

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano
I say it was WRONG to expell Arnett...

he did NOTHING wrong...

I think he could've been a lot more understanding and supportive for our own troops that are over there now. His words could've been very demoralizing to them.

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03-31-2003, 08:54 AM

at least he didnt condemn the meat martket like oprah. hahaha he might have gotten worst! hehe

i think NBC can fire who they want, for what reasons they want especially regarding what can or should be said and in the manner anchors must present themseelf, I havent read all this yet though...

Not my job to dig into it.

People lose their job daily over slightly more trivial things.

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03-31-2003, 09:03 AM

These news channels are really complete BS.

Pure propoganda.
I can't stand watching CNN, MSNBC etc.... Its as if they are reporting to a bunch of 5 year old kids for crying out loud.

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03-31-2003, 09:04 AM

Ok.

How did he go there, not as an NBC reporter, and they fired him?

He went for National Geographic.

He had already left the network this article said.

heres the last paragraph from the article.

' He went to Iraq this year not as an NBC News reporter but as an employee of ?National Geographic Explorer.? When other NBC reporters left Baghdad for safety reasons, the network began airing his reports.'

maybe they chose to not use him anymore since he seems to be reporting silly things since the 70s, involving claims that we gas people?

hahaha

he should have his pen taken away.

People who work in retail have to sign 'Non COmpete' aggreements, you think that might cover doing interviews for out enemy during war?

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03-31-2003, 09:07 AM

title of nbc's story: NBC, MSNBC terminate Arnett

not my wording.

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03-31-2003, 09:08 AM

i hear ya. I wasnt posing the question at you directly, simply asking it.

if he didnt even work for them, how did they fire him?

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03-31-2003, 09:09 AM

In the article I linked to, it contains this:

What are you doing in Baghdad; what kind of stories are you looking for?

I wouldn't want to be anywhere else. I like being on a big story.
Thank goodness for National Geographic EXPLORER for making it possible for me to be here. It's deja vu all over again. It seems like a replica of the first gulf war.
I wanted to see the end of the story. Being with EXPLORER allows me to look at some of the people I've known here?at the more human side of the story. EXPLORER has a relationship with MSNBC so I am doing work for them. Then because NBC decided to pull their people out, along with most of the other American media, I am helping NBC with daily coverage.

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03-31-2003, 09:12 AM

Originally posted by Brujah

I think he could've been a lot more understanding and supportive for our own troops that are over there now. His words could've been very demoralizing to them.

really?

I have my doubts that USA troops listen to Iraki TV
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03-31-2003, 09:12 AM

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano
I say it was WRONG to expell Arnett...

he did NOTHING wrong...

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03-31-2003, 09:12 AM

if they were broadcasting the guy, i'd assume that it was a working relationship - and not volunteerism.

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03-31-2003, 09:14 AM

media has no spine, period!
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03-31-2003, 09:17 AM

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really?

I have my doubts that USA troops listen to Iraki TV
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03-31-2003, 09:20 AM

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03-31-2003, 09:21 AM

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03-31-2003, 09:24 AM

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03-31-2003, 09:25 AM

they do the same in every other country though.

death is the easy way out.

can a country without assasinations be named?

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03-31-2003, 09:31 AM

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they do the same in every other country though.

death is the easy way out.

can a country without assasinations be named?

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03-31-2003, 09:37 AM

Peter ARnett = Jane Fonda

but I'm sure most of you are too young to know what I mean.

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03-31-2003, 09:38 AM

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Peter ARnett = Jane Fonda

but I'm sure most of you are too young to know what I mean.

he is NOT....
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03-31-2003, 09:43 AM

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Peter ARnett = Jane Fonda

but I'm sure most of you are too young to know what I mean.

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03-31-2003, 09:45 AM

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03-31-2003, 09:46 AM

Originally posted by JosephS
Peter ARnett = Jane Fonda

but I'm sure most of you are too young to know what I mean.

because he was interviewed on iraqi tv, and really said nothing that hadn't already been said 100 times on CNN?

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03-31-2003, 09:52 AM

nah nothing going on the state controlled tv station of the enemy in a time of war. stupid ass klowns.

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03-31-2003, 09:54 AM

and just before they turned around and canned him, this was nbc's position:

NBC initially backed Arnett?s interview. ?His impromptu interview with Iraqi TV was done as a professional courtesy and was similar to other interviews he has done with media outlets from around the world,? NBC News spokeswoman Allison Gollust said. ?His remarks were analytical in nature and were not intended to be anything more. His outstanding reporting on the war speaks for itself.?

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03-31-2003, 09:58 AM

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03-31-2003, 10:07 AM

good we need less of these reporters around. they want free speech? too fucking bad. welcome to information control in the new century.

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03-31-2003, 10:13 AM

If a Microsoft Software writer, did an Apple commercial claiming Microsofts chips were definitely under par, and second to the Apple chips, would he get fired?

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03-31-2003, 10:14 AM

apples to oranges. shows a lack of understanding about the media if you feel that comparing a commerical corporate entity is the same.

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03-31-2003, 10:18 AM

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apples to oranges. shows a lack of understanding about the media if you feel that comparing a commerical corporate entity is the same.

i actually have to agree with you. the news is 'supposed' to be objective (lol). competing companies?

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03-31-2003, 10:26 AM

freedom? huh...

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03-31-2003, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by MrPopup
apples to oranges. shows a lack of understanding about the media if you feel that comparing a commerical corporate entity is the same.

yeah i know, im so ignorant sometimes.

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03-31-2003, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by quiet

i actually have to agree with you. the news is 'supposed' to be objective (lol). competing companies?

I was simply stating, if you say something your boss doesnt like youre gone.

I wasnt comparing the 2 side by side, but folks can dig into things as deep as they need to for their argument.

Fact is, if homie was NOT an employee, and was just a PAID CONTRACTOR for reporting services, they can no logner use him regardless of reason.

And my point about the corporate entities was to show nothing more than if you represent a company, watch what you say.

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03-31-2003, 10:43 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Fletch XXX

if you say something your boss doesnt like youre gone.

sure, anyone can fire anyone for any reason. it's funny how they changed their tune though. from:

NBC initially backed Arnett?s interview. ?His impromptu interview with Iraqi TV was done as a professional courtesy and was similar to other interviews he has done with media outlets from around the world,? NBC News spokeswoman Allison Gollust said. ?His remarks were analytical in nature and were not intended to be anything more. His outstanding reporting on the war speaks for itself.?

to:

?IT WAS wrong for Peter Arnett to grant an interview to state controlled Iraqi TV ? especially at a time of war ? and it was wrong for him to discuss his personal observations and opinions in that interview,? NBC News President Neal Shapiro said in a statement. ?Therefore, Peter Arnett will no longer be reporting for NBC News and MSNBC.?

complete and undeniable reversal. hypocrisy and double talk at it's finest.

watch what you say.

ahahaha

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03-31-2003, 10:46 AM

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03-31-2003, 10:50 AM

what? you people are REALLY mixed up about what 'freedom of the press' is and isn't. This was an employee of NBC who gave a an interview, a DAMAGING interview, to a fucking news organization OWNED, CONTROLLED by the bloody dictator Saddam Hussein.
Arnett is NOT free to shoot his mouth off on the state owned Iraqi TV channel. NBC did the right thing.

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03-31-2003, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by quiet

complete and undeniable reversal. hypocrisy and double talk at it's finest.

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03-31-2003, 10:52 AM

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from here to there.
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03-31-2003, 10:57 AM

freedom of speech, unless you are in the media
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03-31-2003, 11:05 AM

This is not a question of freedom of speech. Reflect badly for the company/corporate enity that you are employed by and you will be fired.

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03-31-2003, 11:09 AM

I posted at 3/19

"How the media we'll work during the war:

What you'll about to see is what the govmt wants you to see, not what will happen. Peter Arnett, the well known CNN reporter after the end of the Wolf war said what he was reporting is what he thought it was the reality of the war, when the war ended he saw a different reality, it was too late then.

Peter Arnett is again in Iraq and he'll cover the war. He carries more experience than ever and hopefully him and the foreign reporters that will remain in Iraq will report what the controlled media do not want you to see."

and I was right.

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