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washiez 03-15-2003 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by goBigtime


I'd like to say for the record, you are a lawsuit waiting to happen :winkwink:

I think I'll go register OxCashPro.com and NastyDollarsPro.com.

Heh seriously, like ANY of us are thinking Click Cash Pro.

goBigtime 03-15-2003 02:54 PM

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If anyone needs to business name for their upcoming project, look no further! We're the guys for the job :thumbsup

TheSenator 03-15-2003 02:58 PM

huh? ClickCash.com is a fraud....any programmers know how to build a skimming system just like ClickCash.com to cheat hard working webmasters?

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Poppy 03-15-2003 03:40 PM

Sorry to hear about your problems eronetwork. Please check out Spread4u

We pay $1 per minute, but if you contact me I am willing to raise the payout to $2 for the first month.

Poppy

OY 03-15-2003 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by poppy
Sorry to hear about your problems eronetwork. Please check out Spread4u

We pay $1 per minute, but if you contact me I am willing to raise the payout to $2 for the first month.

Poppy

Spread4u has been working good for me... :thumbsup

BrettJ 03-15-2003 04:09 PM

Hey poppy - good to see you on the board.

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maxjohan 03-15-2003 04:26 PM

lol, I cant see why guys here promote cam sites that pay $20?

I rather get 10% than $20..its 365 days a year and you could be making money from that member from day 1 to the day they die.

:2 cents:


Anyone in the adult biz that knows what resiudal income is?

amil 03-16-2003 04:07 PM

We have live bbw,live latina,live shemale,live lesbians,and live guys. We do not do per minute. We charge per day $9.95 and $49.95 per month. We give webmasters a % of upsell 30%. I know it sounds little but we have customers who always come back because there are few places that surfers can go and get the quality of content the get with us. You also get the benefits of having the feeds for your members. This is the current stats of one of our webmasters.

he converts 1:190 which is decent. We are giving paysite owners
$100 to sign up to our affiliate program . They must be able to send us 300-500 uniques per day quality traffic.

http://www.xvncash.com



Affiliate Program Summary for March 2003



March Accumulated
Raw Clicks: 6552 6552
Unique Clicks: 3052 3052
Sales generated: 16 16
Clicks per Sale (CPS): 190 190

Commissions Earned: $60 $60
Paid so far: $0 $0



Stats for March 2003

CLICKS COMMISSIONS
Date Raw Unique Sales Earned

Mar. 1 0 0 0 $0

Mar. 2 0 0 0 $0

Mar. 3 0 0 0 $0

Mar. 4 0 0 0 $0

Mar. 5 10 6 0 $0

Mar. 6 114 68 0 $0

Mar. 7 48 23 0 $0

Mar. 8 139 63 0 $0

Mar. 9 200 91 0 $0

Mar. 10 749 371 1 $3.5

Mar. 11 894 415 5 $14.5

Mar. 12 837 446 2 $6

Mar. 13 969 442 3 $9

Mar. 14 919 426 1 $15

Mar. 15 1011 455 0 $0

Mar. 16 662 246 4 $12

silver 03-16-2003 04:17 PM

Click Cash is ran by a bunch of fucking jerk off`s
they fucked me out of about 8k with a $1,750 PPC Bill , i sent them dozens of mails ect... never one reply , never even got a notice why i was shut down.

I GIVE THE CLICKCASH THE MIDDLE FINGER :321GFY

and i would love to visit FL and take 1750
swings at the fucking heads of the jerk offs that run it.:ak47: :BangBang:

TheJimmy 03-16-2003 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by maxjohan
lol, I cant see why guys here promote cam sites that pay $20?

I rather get 10% than $20..its 365 days a year and you could be making money from that member from day 1 to the day they die.

:2 cents:


Anyone in the adult biz that knows what resiudal income is?



dude, you seriously think that any % based program tracks the sales that a user you sent 1 year ago is paying you on that??????

I'm guessing if you get paid on % of their sales in 3 months that's doing very well, I'm suspecting that after 3-6 months they conveniently forget to track those....just as in the casino biz...

only %/recurring to trust is your OWN...

maxjohan 03-16-2003 04:36 PM

pretty good, point but shave now, shave in 3 months..its all the same. Both PPS and PP could shave.


:glugglug

Simon-interaid 03-16-2003 04:37 PM

Did you get a email from ifriends saying your account was shutdown or you just started seeing 0 sign ups ?

silver 03-16-2003 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Simon-interaid
Did you get a email from ifriends saying your account was shutdown or you just started seeing 0 sign ups ?

WHEN THEY SHUT ME DOWN , THEY DELEETED MY ACCOUNT REDIRECTED MY LINKS TO SOME STUPID GAY ASS PAGE THAT SAID TRAFFIC FROM THIS DOMAIN WAS NO LONGER ACCEPTED , THEY NEVER SENT ME A MAIL , I MAILED EM AGAIN AND AGAIN ...NEVER GOT ONE ANSWER

Xenophage 03-16-2003 04:55 PM

Quote:

dude, you seriously think that any % based program tracks the sales that a user you sent 1 year ago is paying you on that??????

Hmm ask Sleazydream adultfriendfinder gammacash cybererotica topbucks or many others and they will tell you I am still paying them on people who signed up a year ago and beyond that we have customers still buying after 4 years !

Check out my live feeds

http://www.streamray.com/webmasters.jsp

an example of our free feeds !
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SleazyDream 03-16-2003 04:58 PM

Lars's affiliate stats are probally the MOST STABLE affiliate stats I HAVE EVER Sceen. EVER - of ALL PROGRAMS out there.


streamray rocks

NineNine 03-16-2003 05:00 PM

I got screwed when Clickcash/IFriends started bouncing checks about a year ago. I dropped them like a sack of potatoes. I eventually took a rubber check I got from them to a bank and got CASH. I'm sure the check was still bad. So yes, this scam has been around for a long time, and anyone still promoting them is just stupid. But what I can't understand is why all of these people saying "I lost $10,000 with them" hasn't just gotten a lawyer? That's well worth it. Either all of these people talking about losing $10K are full of shit about the $10K (or whatever big number they give), or they're jsut too stupid to call a lawyer and get paid.

stocktrader23 03-16-2003 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheSenator
huh? ClickCash.com is a fraud....any programmers know how to build a skimming system just like ClickCash.com to cheat hard working webmasters?
Lets assume you are correct for a minute. Show me a sponsor that can take my measly 5000 to 8000 clicks and send me a check for over $5000 each and every week.

Somehow I don't think you'll find one.


Clickcash rocks.

NineNine 03-16-2003 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23


Lets assume you are correct for a minute. Show me a sponsor that can take my measly 5000 to 8000 clicks and send me a check for over $5000 each and every week.

Somehow I don't think you'll find one.


Clickcash rocks.

Oh yeah, and Clickcash has plenty of people that go on adult webmaster boards to shill for them too. Fucking scam.

stocktrader23 03-16-2003 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NineNine


Oh yeah, and Clickcash has plenty of people that go on adult webmaster boards to shill for them too. Fucking scam.

I've been with Clickcash for over 2 years and so have several other people I signed up. Got a nice productive downline and I still get great support, great conversions, and don't give a shit what you or anyone else says. Next time try selling without spam or illegal content.

TheSenator 03-16-2003 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rocki
We launched our http://www.naughtywebcams.com and have select people beta testing traffic to it. The conversions are rockin and our affiliate is almost complete. Here's our affiliate program http://www.webcamgold.com

We are going to allow our webmasters to combine their Gold bar points within all our programs (trafficcashgold, lovedollars, sexcheck and webcamgold) to redeem goodies. So give us a try when we have webcamgold launch...

So, when is the launch date?

stocktrader23 03-16-2003 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NineNine


Oh yeah, and Clickcash has plenty of people that go on adult webmaster boards to shill for them too. Fucking scam.

And while you're at it Dipshit ask PersianKitty why she has had Ifriends listed at the top of her site for 7 years. She's obviously a newb huh? :321GFY

silver 03-16-2003 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NineNine
I got screwed when Clickcash/IFriends started bouncing checks about a year ago. I dropped them like a sack of potatoes. I eventually took a rubber check I got from them to a bank and got CASH. I'm sure the check was still bad. So yes, this scam has been around for a long time, and anyone still promoting them is just stupid. But what I can't understand is why all of these people saying "I lost $10,000 with them" hasn't just gotten a lawyer? That's well worth it. Either all of these people talking about losing $10K are full of shit about the $10K (or whatever big number they give), or they're jsut too stupid to call a lawyer and get paid.

I contacted a local lawyer...he looked over thier terms of service ...he told me..
As for suing them you would have to take legal action in a FL court (read thier terms of service that you agree to) and doing that from 5,000 miles away would be a big pain in the ass and a waste of time and money & then there is no telling weather you would win or loose , my bet would be that thier lawyers that represent web power inc. are just as big as sleaze bags that people that run it .

TheJimmy 03-16-2003 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LegendaryLars



Hmm ask Sleazydream adultfriendfinder gammacash cybererotica topbucks or many others and they will tell you I am still paying them on people who signed up a year ago and beyond that we have customers still buying after 4 years !

Check out my live feeds

http://www.streamray.com/webmasters.jsp

an example of our free feeds !
http://www.cumtv.com/layout0/livecams2.jsp




"Lars's affiliate stats are probally the MOST STABLE affiliate stats I HAVE EVER Sceen. EVER - of ALL PROGRAMS out there.


streamray rocks" - SleazyDream's statement




.............


sounds good enough for me to give them a whirl, personally I've had my best luck with programs that have that free signup form and allow me to send direct to a join page, no matter WHAT they are selling...

however I do know the power of recurring cash, and if you TRUELY track, retain and payout on members that signed up to get their spank on with your girlies years ago, then I'm into some of that...


Stocktrader and I feel the same way for sure though from a post he just made, show me someone that I can send a few hits to and get sent nice FAT checks, in the end it all boils down to who's check is bigger....

how they want to pay me %/flat/etc it all boils down to that simple simple math thing....


___ hits = ____ cash ?

TheSenator 03-16-2003 05:29 PM

I bet if a big player got screwed in the sphincter he/she would sue. Hmmm...I used to make 10,000 a month with them but got screwed. Making $10Gs is is small player stuff and would not be worth suing.

It is a matter of time before they mess up and get sued.....
Imagine if they had to reveal in court that they use software that cheat webmasters

Turboface 03-16-2003 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23


And while you're at it Dipshit ask PersianKitty why she has had Ifriends listed at the top of her site for 7 years. She's obviously a newb huh? :321GFY


Stocktrader23, why do you so agressively defend ClickCash at every opportunity you get?

Doesn't the seemingly endless stream of webmaster having problems with them, speak volumes?

We all know how much you have made with them and how 'in' you are with them, but doesn't the overwhelming amount of complaints about them, not only on this board but on the others as well, raise some concerns about their highly questionable business practices?

:2 cents:

silver 03-16-2003 05:32 PM

stocktrader23 , the biggest problem with click cash is , they do not investigate spam complaints any moron can go to a PPC SE or google or a TGP and get some ones i-friends affiliate`s codes and paste them into bulker and spam to 10k .gov addys or aol internal employee list
in 10 minutes and sit back and laugh as they get termed for spam and get a higher listing them selfs and take the competition out ect....

Click cash doesnt investigate the shit and look at the persons traffic paterns over the past couple years , they just fuck the honest webmaster .

When they were paying me it was great but after being fucked out of a 1,750 PPC bill that is a pure fucking
rip off. i even mailed them copies of my PPC stats with the legit URL`s proving where my traffic came from every last hit for that period
they didnt even send me one mail back.

PicBar 03-16-2003 05:35 PM

we pay:

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freeadultcontent 03-16-2003 05:42 PM

Ive never had a problem with them. Yet I also respect their TOS, make sure I never use chathost content that has blocked areas, always remove a chathost image the second she or he asks, and make for damn sure my whois contains real information. If a host finds her image on your site, does a whois and emails you and it bounces she complains to ifriends, and well read the TOS.

I also speak with them all the time, have a huge downline, had 1 check bounce which was a banking error (they switched banks that next week), and they fed exed me a new check plus my bank fee's for that trouble.

As far as them not investigating. Again here is an email I got from the Clickca$h support team - Clickcash traffic integrity department.

Dear Clickcash Affiliate Account XXXXXXXXXXX:

DO YOU CONTROL THE FOLLOWING URLS?

(This is a regular automated report.)

According to our records, numerous individuals
have traversed clickcash links containing your
clickcash.com affiliate ID over the last 7 to 10 days.
Please review the following list of frequently-observed
referral URLs to confirm that each URL relates to a
webpage or URL over which you exert control. If you
identify any webpages or URLs below that you *do not*
control, it may indicate that another Clickcash
affiliate with an ID code similar to yours has
made typographical errors in setting up their
links, or it could also indicate that a rogue
individual is attempting to falsely direct traffic
through Clickcash in your name, potentially in an
attempt to discredit your account or mischaracterize
your traffic as originating as spam.

If you recognize each of the URLs below, and each is under
your control, there is no action needed on your part. However,
if there are any URLs below that are *not* under your control,
please report them at:

http://apps.clickcash.com/cgi/DisclaimURL.exe

You can also review more detailed information
concerning your traffic in the "Real Time Stats" area
at: http://www.clickcash.com

URL: (In order of descending frequency)

MY URLS which I am not posting.

silver 03-16-2003 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by freeadultcontent

As far as them not investigating. Again here is an email I got from the Clickca$h support team - Clickcash traffic integrity department.

Dear Clickcash Affiliate Account XXXXXXXXXXX:

DO YOU CONTROL THE FOLLOWING URLS?

(This is a regular automated report.)

According to our records, numerous individuals
have traversed clickcash links containing your
clickcash.com affiliate ID over the last 7 to 10 days.
Please review the following list of frequently-observed
referral URLs to confirm that each URL relates to a
webpage or URL over which you exert control. If you
identify any webpages or URLs below that you *do not*
control, it may indicate that another Clickcash
affiliate with an ID code similar to yours has
made typographical errors in setting up their
links, or it could also indicate that a rogue
individual is attempting to falsely direct traffic
through Clickcash in your name, potentially in an
attempt to discredit your account or mischaracterize
your traffic as originating as spam.

If you recognize each of the URLs below, and each is under
your control, there is no action needed on your part. However,
if there are any URLs below that are *not* under your control,
please report them at:

http://apps.clickcash.com/cgi/DisclaimURL.exe

You can also review more detailed information
concerning your traffic in the "Real Time Stats" area
at: http://www.clickcash.com

URL: (In order of descending frequency)

MY URLS which I am not posting.


Thats good that they started doing that but back a year ago or so ..they never use to do that.

Also thier security is horrible , you can view anyones stats and personal account info by logging into your own account and editing a cookie with another affiliates code and visiting a certain url , there use to be several ways of doing this(with out editing the cookie) , they fixed most of them but i still know of one way that still works.

If you havent been fucked by them , more power to you , but those of us who have been fucked by them will flame them for what ever reasons.

TheStorm 03-16-2003 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrthumbs


So why did you use that domain?

They should sue you, idiot.

I was making about 10K a month with them last year. This lasted for about 4 months.

Then my wife saw how good this was, quite her job and joined in. I had taught someone else how to do what I was doing so there were three of us.

I suspect clickcash thought we were the same people.

They started sending me this form, and the other two people to sign and fax back to them. Then they would claim they never got the fax. Or they'd just not respond at all.

My wife called them, didn't get far but Stacy did call back to my surprise. Finally my wife told her the sooner you pay me the sooner you'll be rid of me, all five checks showed up. But they started shaving me and finally just not paying me.

And no word.

NineNine 03-16-2003 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23


I've been with Clickcash for over 2 years and so have several other people I signed up. Got a nice productive downline and I still get great support, great conversions, and don't give a shit what you or anyone else says. Next time try selling without spam or illegal content.

One shill does not a good program make. There have been more complaints about getting fucked by ifriends than any program I've ever heard of. So take your "spam and illegal content" and shove it up your ass.:321GFY

sacX 03-16-2003 07:47 PM

One thing I've wondered. PersianKitty's links to clickcash all have revshare in the link whereas I can only find per signup links in clickcash?

Is this an invite only part of the Ifriends program? I sent an email to them but never got an answer.

silver 03-16-2003 07:49 PM

PersianKitty & Click Cash are tight , i think i remember seeing them on Opera one time like a couple years back shoeing each other in the asses..

freeadultcontent 03-16-2003 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sacX
One thing I've wondered. PersianKitty's links to clickcash all have revshare in the link whereas I can only find per signup links in clickcash?

Is this an invite only part of the Ifriends program? I sent an email to them but never got an answer.

They used to pay Persian Kitty on either impressions or clicks, now I am pretty sure its per sign up. I do not think ifriends has a revshare deal. Actually some of my links have revshare listed.

Above statement not entirely true. If your a chathost and you are using click cash, you do get 100% of everything someone you signed up with click cash spends in your room, plus the standard per sign up amount. Which is fairly nice compaired to the 50% a host normally gets.

stocktrader23 03-16-2003 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Turboface



Stocktrader23, why do you so agressively defend ClickCash at every opportunity you get?

Doesn't the seemingly endless stream of webmaster having problems with them, speak volumes?

We all know how much you have made with them and how 'in' you are with them, but doesn't the overwhelming amount of complaints about them, not only on this board but on the others as well, raise some concerns about their highly questionable business practices?

:2 cents:

Why? Because no other program converts like they do for as long as they have. And regardless of what I make, I watch over 20 webmasters in my downline most of which have been there 2 years and guess what NONE of them have been booted. Why? They weren't webmasters before I set them up and they follow the rules I gave them. By the way, I was in the top affiliates listed on clickcash for 7 or 8 months and so were 2 people that signed up under me. Funny, you would think they would boot the ones that were in the highest bonus at that time before anyone else. Never, one time have I or anyone under me been kicked. I also see tons of webmasters that aren't spamming but they are violating 1 or more rules that clickcash has. A boot for TOS is not necessarily for spam. :2 cents:

Turboface 03-16-2003 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23


Why? Because no other program converts like they do for as long as they have. And regardless of what I make, I watch over 20 webmasters in my downline most of which have been there 2 years and guess what NONE of them have been booted. Why? They weren't webmasters before I set them up and they follow the rules I gave them. By the way, I was in the top affiliates listed on clickcash for 7 or 8 months and so were 2 people that signed up under me. Funny, you would think they would boot the ones that were in the highest bonus at that time before anyone else. Never, one time have I or anyone under me been kicked. I also see tons of webmasters that aren't spamming but they are violating 1 or more rules that clickcash has. A boot for TOS is not necessarily for spam. :2 cents:


You haven't answered any of my questions.

I am just one of the multitudes of webmasters that have been taken advantage of by ClickCash. Just replying that you, or any of your downline, have not been canned by them doesn't carry too much weight in comparison to the account genicide that is happening here.

ClickCash is a cancer that has infected our industry. I dare not even think of how much money they have stolen from honest, hard working webmasters that have invested their time and energy into a program that is outright fraud. There should be charges filled against these fuckers. Your aggressive defense of them is downright laughable.

:1orglaugh

SpaceAce 03-16-2003 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NineNine

...than any program I've ever heard of.

Cyberthrill.
Casino.

SpaceAce

DamnGoodRatio 03-17-2003 11:26 AM

I've had my ups and down with CC, but they still are a solid program. I reccommend going to http://www.clickcash.com/new/ucepolicy.htm and figuring out what you did. Then sign up with an alias and play it straight.

They're totally zero-tolerance and if you fuck up they'll keep your money, can you, add you to a blocklist, and blackhole your traffic. They did it to me the first time I fucked up.

If you don't fuck up, the money is good and they convert pretty well. We know this, that is why so many people promote them. Are they the best, No. But still decent.

I want everyone in this thread who claims to have been canned for "No Reason" to post in here that they have never signed up for another account with Clickcash.

Turboface 03-17-2003 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DamnGoodRatio
I want everyone in this thread who claims to have been canned for "No Reason" to post in here that they have never signed up for another account with Clickcash.

I have never signed up for another ClickCash account - and never will.

There seems to be two type of people posting in this thread: Those that have been fucked by ClickCash - and those that have their noses stuck so far up ClickCash's ass, they can't even see all the bullshit they're standing in.

:2 cents:


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