Ron Paul feat. Metallica - What If [vid]

[StickyGreen]

[Raf1]

well this is going to lead to another intense discussion

quite a lot of truth there IMO.

[StickyGreen]

well this is going to lead to another intense discussion

quite a lot of truth there IMO.

Of course there is a lot of truth in there, that's what makes it such a great speech. But most people ignore it all because they are too busy defending their "parties" and their egos.

[Sands]

Ron Paul in '08!!!

[kane]

I have developed a theory about Ron Paul. He has some good ideas and talks a good game, but he really doesn't want to be president.

If he really wanted to be president why doesn't he play the game like the rest do and work to raise the big money so he can compete in the elections? I know he is trying to prove a point and not take any special interest money and things like that, but it seems to me he could do more good if he played the game, got elected then could work on actually bringing some of his plans to fruition. Instead he makes a little noise, comes up with some great sound bites and then disappears. I think a lot of people look at him like that crazy old uncle who shows up every few years, has a million ideas (some of which are actually really good) then he disappears for a while again.

[lazzlo]

That must have taken a while to make, cool vid. Alot of truth.

[JC Maldini]

Awesome production...great vid

[beta-tester]

nice talk

[StickyGreen]

I have developed a theory about Ron Paul. He has some good ideas and talks a good game, but he really doesn't want to be president.

If he really wanted to be president why doesn't he play the game like the rest do and work to raise the big money so he can compete in the elections? I know he is trying to prove a point and not take any special interest money and things like that, but it seems to me he could do more good if he played the game, got elected then could work on actually bringing some of his plans to fruition. Instead he makes a little noise, comes up with some great sound bites and then disappears. I think a lot of people look at him like that crazy old uncle who shows up every few years, has a million ideas (some of which are actually really good) then he disappears for a while again.

lol, it doesn't have anything to do with being president, that shit is over obviously. For him now it's about continuing to be an honest person in congress who speaks the truth and actually looking out for the well-being of Americans. It's not even really about him, the man, it's about the message. People get so stuck on the "people" like everything is just one big popularity contest. Wake up, stop shooting the messenger and get the fucking message already.

[StickyGreen]

[collegeboobies]

Ron paul 2012! Rand Paul for Senate

[IllTestYourGirls]

Love him or hate him, he is the only man that told the truth during the election cycle.

As far as him not doing anything now? You must be joking. Campaign For Liberty set up 450 tea parties last round. (That is where the tea party idea really started) And this time around has a lot more than 450 planned for July 4th.

He also has a bill with 170 something cosigners to audit the fed.

[brassmonkey]

Ron paul 2012! Rand Paul for Senate

yeah woo hoo!!

[kane]

Love him or hate him, he is the only man that told the truth during the election cycle.

As far as him not doing anything now? You must be joking. Campaign For Liberty set up 450 tea parties last round. (That is where the tea party idea really started) And this time around has a lot more than 450 planned for July 4th.

He also has a bill with 170 something cosigners to audit the fed.

He is also ranked as the guy with the 8th highest dollar amount of earmarks on legislation in the congress. That means out of 435 members only 7 of them had more earmarks than Ron. How can he rail against government spending, then request over 96 million of it?

I don't doubt that he has some good ideas and he is correct on many issues, but he seems like he is a little hypocritical on some issues.

[IllTestYourGirls]

He is also ranked as the guy with the 8th highest dollar amount of earmarks on legislation in the congress. That means out of 435 members only 7 of them had more earmarks than Ron. How can he rail against government spending, then request over 96 million of it?

I don't doubt that he has some good ideas and he is correct on many issues, but he seems like he is a little hypocritical on some issues.

Because earmarks give back the tax payer money the IRS stole from them.

I would never vote for a congressman that didnt put earmarks in to get back the money the federal government stole from the state.

[Doctor Dre]

I have developed a theory about Ron Paul. He has some good ideas and talks a good game, but he really doesn't want to be president.

If he really wanted to be president why doesn't he play the game like the rest do and work to raise the big money so he can compete in the elections? I know he is trying to prove a point and not take any special interest money and things like that, but it seems to me he could do more good if he played the game, got elected then could work on actually bringing some of his plans to fruition. Instead he makes a little noise, comes up with some great sound bites and then disappears. I think a lot of people look at him like that crazy old uncle who shows up every few years, has a million ideas (some of which are actually really good) then he disappears for a while again.

The guy has been fucking everywhere since the election... his campaing for liberty is throwing paties all over the nation every fucking week.

He has never had that much momentum, yet the mainstream medias pretty much ignore him, because he dosen't want to play their game and enter their currupted system..

[mozadek]

What if Ron Paul was not a loon?

[kane]

Because earmarks give back the tax payer money the IRS stole from them.

I would never vote for a congressman that didnt put earmarks in to get back the money the federal government stole from the state.

So I am curious then. What is the difference between an earmark and pork on a bill? It seems they are both pretty much the same thing?

[FelixFlow]

Ron Paul for the win ! !

[StickyGreen]

What if Ron Paul was not a loon?

I'm curious which part of his speech was "looney?"

[FelixFlow]

I posted this in another forum earlier today...









Here's some information for you to digest. if you have questions or comments, please post them & I will do my best to clear up any misconceptions you may have.

• contrary to what the news is telling you, the cause of the current economic crash is not because of the subprime real estate loans
  
  
• bigger government & more financial regulation is NOT going to make the economy safer, stronger, nor less prone to bubbles
  
  
• barack obama & g.w. bush both are fleecing the american public with thier policies & agenda. with obama, its just not as obvious. just because his is more subtle, doesnt mean it isnt happening
  
  
• if your only source of information is fox news/msnbc/cnn/cbs, you are not informed. you are probably told 15% of what is "newsworthy"
  
  
• the typical american sits idly by while their freedoms are being eroded & the usa is on the verge of officially becoming a 'police state'. if you think this is crazy talk, then YOU are one of the "typical americans"
  
  
  
  

I welcome anyone to prove any of my statements wrong. I will gladly discuss these or any related topics, with any person with an open mind

[kane]

I posted this in another forum earlier today...

[*]bigger government & more financial regulation is NOT going to make the economy safer, stronger, nor less prone to bubbles




I welcome anyone to prove any of my statements wrong. I will gladly discuss these or any related topics, with any person with an open mind

I saw a really good interview with a woman that is a law professor at Harvard. Her specialty is bankruptcy law. She basically said that the first financial crisis this country faced came under George Washington. Banks went bust, unemployment skyrocketed and the economy tanked. Eventually the market worked itself out. We followed that boom and bust roller coasted up until the 1920's. We are not talking about recession. We are talking about major boom times followed by major busts. The 1920's saw one of the biggest booms in history and was followed by the biggest bust that lead into the depression.

As we came out of the depression there were some regulations put in place to help ward that off. They gave the SEC (created in 1929) more powers to closer watch the markets and created the FDIC. Before the FDIC if you had money in a bank that failed, most likely you lost your money. So knowing that caused runs on banks to happen anytime there was a panic. The FDIC helped stop that. This regulation sent the country on about 65 years of prosperity. We had some recessions and we had some smaller boom times, but for the most part we have seen steady growth since then, no more boom and bust. We saw the recent troubles because we have loosened up some regulation and we have created a bunch of new financial markets and products that have no oversight

What I am getting as is that she said a truly free market that is left to its own devices and the whims of the investors in it will boom and bust by nature and the person that ends up fucked in the middle class guy. So I'm curious if not regulation what would help make the economy stronger and more stable?