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Old 05-29-2009, 01:47 PM   #1
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Caro.Net Spring Bandwidth Blowout

Caro.Net is closing out the spring in style, by offering our most aggressive bandwidth packages ever! Be sure to act today, as these packages are only available for a limited time!

Each server package includes its own dedicated bandwidth allocation, encompassing our blended mix of tier 1 bandwidth providers.

Please note that all normal upgrade fees apply in terms of memory, hard drives, etc and can be viewed individually at Caro.Net Specials, Spring Bandwidth Blowout!.

* These server packages are for NEW customers and/or NEW services only.
* Bandwidth is dedicated, not shared, running across our BGP4 links.
* These servers cannot be pooled together in our VPR's.
* All packages are subject to limited availability.
* Pricing is good for the life of the server.
* Standard overage fees apply for usage in excess of the allocation amount.
* Any questions, please contact me directly email


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Dell PowerEdge SC1435 chassis (1u rackmount)
Dual AMD Opteron 2216 Dual Core
2 GB DDR-2 RAM, Upgradeable to 32GB
(2x) 500GB S-ATA Drives
Hardware RAID with 64MB of memory
100 Mbps Port
Free Remote Reboot Port

15 TB - $229.00
30 TB - $339.00

Dell PowerEdge 2970 chassis (2u rackmount)[/color]
Dual AMD Opteron 2216 Dual Core
4GB DDR-2 RAM, Upgradeable to 32GB
(4x) 146 GB SAS 10k RPM Hard Drives
Hardware RAID with 256MB of memory
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15 TB - $279.00
30 TB - $399.00

Dell PowerEdge 1950 chassis (1u rackmount)
Dual 64-bit Intel Xeon Dual Core processors
2x2MB L2 Cache at 2GHz (Woodcrest)
8 GB 667MHz (4x1GB), Single Ranked FB-DIMMs
Hardware RAID with 256MB of memory
(2x) 500GB, 3.5-in, 7.5k RPM Hard Drive
100 Mbps Port
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15 TB - $319.00
30 TB - $429.00

Dell PowerEdge 1950 chassis (1u rackmount)
Dual 64-bit Intel Xeon Quad Core processors
8MB L2 Cache at 2GHz (Clovertown)
8 GB 667MHz (4x1GB), Single Ranked FB-DIMMs
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(2x) 500GB, SATA, 3.5-in, 7.5k RPM Hard Drive
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15 TB - $359.00
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If anyone has any questions on the above deals, please contact Mark or myself directly via IM...or feel free to email us at [email protected]

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No offense to OP, but why do hosting companies seem so similar to car dealers....in that they never give you the price the same way, so it's impossible to compare?

What is 15TB and 30TB?

You say that standard overage rates apply, but don't tell us what those rates are.

With 8 bazillion hosts out there competing for business, don't you think it's better for you to make these things easy for customers to understand?
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Yeah all hosts should give prcing by $/mbps
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Old 05-29-2009, 02:22 PM   #6
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Yeah all hosts should give prcing by $/mbps
Yeah or at least give more details on how they're billing.

Some hosts say they're charging by the gig, but all they're doing is taking the 95th percentile mbps, and multiplying it by 320.
Others actually take the actual amt of gigs transferred from the logs, which is a way different number.

There should be a standard way of doing it, or at least good explanations...otherwise it just seems like car dealer tricks, where they try to make it look like you're getting a better deal but you end up paying more.
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Old 05-29-2009, 02:26 PM   #7
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Old 05-29-2009, 02:44 PM   #8
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What is 15TB and 30TB?

You say that standard overage rates apply, but don't tell us what those rates are.
Well 1TB = 1000 GB but what I think you may be looking for is a comparison to Mbps. If that is the case then a very close ballpark figure would be 33,000 GB = 100 Mbps, so that 15TB would be about 45 Mbps and 30TB about 90 Mbps.

The standard overage rate on these packages would be $0.25/GB

One thing of very special note for many of you reviewing this, these BW measurements are based upon the average. This could be a significant value to those of you with hosting where your BW is measured on the 95th percentile, especially if you have a lot of spikes in your traffic.

I hope that helps but if you have any additional questions just let me know.
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Yeah or at least give more details on how they're billing.

Some hosts say they're charging by the gig, but all they're doing is taking the 95th percentile mbps, and multiplying it by 320.
Others actually take the actual amt of gigs transferred from the logs, which is a way different number.

There should be a standard way of doing it, or at least good explanations...otherwise it just seems like car dealer tricks, where they try to make it look like you're getting a better deal but you end up paying more.
Caro.Net's billing is based upon the GB used and the measurement is taken directly at the port your server is connected to.

When you sign up for a Caro.Net web hosting account you are also given a My.Caro account and this portal allows you to see and perform the following:

* Account Settings
* Invoices
* Order new services
* Review your servers
* Reboot servers

and to monitor and see the exact same BW measurements that Caro.Net uses for billing. There should never be a surprise at the close of a billing cycle as we make this information available to you 24/7/365.
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Old 05-30-2009, 03:05 AM   #10
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Old 05-30-2009, 04:21 AM   #11
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The standard overage rate on these packages would be $0.25/GB

so the overage works out to about $75.00 per megabit

i don't want to do business with people who do biz that way with little games.
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so the overage works out to about $75.00 per megabit

i don't want to do business with people who do biz that way with little games.

Clearly there seems to be a mis understanding here on overages...

The standard overage in this case is billed on a per GB model, and is readilly available to the end users at ALL times...

Plus of the packages listed, we assume you are going to explore the possibility of acquiring one of these based on your current bw needs, so immediately going to discredit them based on the percieved overages is not valid.

There isnt a chance it would be converted to per mbps, nor would it be billed at $75.00 per mbps.

For the sake of this thread not getting out of hand, and off point, I / we will honor a .10 per gb fee base on all packages, and state that the overages are totally negotiable...IF...they get out of hand. (you have the ability to track real time useage at all times...so this should never come as a suprise to anyone using these services)

That seems to be where most of the hesitation is coming in, or questions concerning the legitmacy of this promotion.

Any follow up questions or concerns after this are welcome, but I hope this has been made abundantly clear.

Please feel free to contact me directly concerning this, and bookmark/log the explanation so there is no further confusion.

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Old 05-30-2009, 08:52 AM   #13
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Old 05-30-2009, 02:30 PM   #14
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We have been Hosting with Them for 2 years now and they have the best Tech Support Team I have ever seen in my 10 years as an Adult Webmaster . We host all of our Feeds with them and I cant remember the last time we had any downtime .
As far as overages they worked with me on ours and we couldnt be happier ! We are in the process of adding 2 more servers and live cameras with them as we speak .
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Yeah or at least give more details on how they're billing.

Some hosts say they're charging by the gig, but all they're doing is taking the 95th percentile mbps, and multiplying it by 320.
Others actually take the actual amt of gigs transferred from the logs, which is a way different number.

There should be a standard way of doing it, or at least good explanations...otherwise it just seems like car dealer tricks, where they try to make it look like you're getting a better deal but you end up paying more.
Realisticly you can figure 220GB per Mbps on "normal" usage.
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Realisticly you can figure 220GB per Mbps on "normal" usage.
Yeah but really, I shouldn't have to "figure" anything.

Hosts get billed by their upstream providers at 95th percentile. 95% or more of adult webmasters are being billed by their current hosts at 95th percentile.

With these deals, you can't figure out if you're going to save money unless you have a slide rule and an abacus, and with 8 bazillion hosts out there fighting for our business, who has time for that shit?

I'm not looking for a new host, and prices are so ridiculously low these days that nobody could undercut my current deal enough to make it worth moving....but as a friendly service I was letting OP know that he needs to present his packages and billing options in a more standard way, because I and people I know are confused by his packages, and nobody is going to buy something they don't understand.

Obviously Caro Mark is confused as well, because when Mutt said that 25 cents per GB overage works out to $75 per mbps, he went into a sermon about how he wouldn't convert the billing to mbps, it would remain at per GB.
Then he says he thinks people are scared of surprise overages and explains how we have access to our usage 24/7.
Nobody here said anything about being scared of surprise overages. Mark isn't paying attention.

Hosts, en masse, convinced webmasters years ago to stop paying attention to per GB prices and to start paying attention to mbps billed at the 95th percentile.
Now that per mbps prices are in the toilet, it seems like some of them are trying to switch to some new billing model that we don't understand in order to get more money out of us.

Per mbps has been industry standard for a very long time now, at least on dedicated servers. If they really hope to get any business from these specials, they should be offered in terms that people can understand.
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Old 05-30-2009, 11:22 PM   #18
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Yeah but really, I shouldn't have to "figure" anything.

Hosts get billed by their upstream providers at 95th percentile. 95% or more of adult webmasters are being billed by their current hosts at 95th percentile.

With these deals, you can't figure out if you're going to save money unless you have a slide rule and an abacus, and with 8 bazillion hosts out there fighting for our business, who has time for that shit?

I'm not looking for a new host, and prices are so ridiculously low these days that nobody could undercut my current deal enough to make it worth moving....but as a friendly service I was letting OP know that he needs to present his packages and billing options in a more standard way, because I and people I know are confused by his packages, and nobody is going to buy something they don't understand.

Obviously Caro Mark is confused as well, because when Mutt said that 25 cents per GB overage works out to $75 per mbps, he went into a sermon about how he wouldn't convert the billing to mbps, it would remain at per GB.
Then he says he thinks people are scared of surprise overages and explains how we have access to our usage 24/7.
Nobody here said anything about being scared of surprise overages. Mark isn't paying attention.

Hosts, en masse, convinced webmasters years ago to stop paying attention to per GB prices and to start paying attention to mbps billed at the 95th percentile.
Now that per mbps prices are in the toilet, it seems like some of them are trying to switch to some new billing model that we don't understand in order to get more money out of us.

Per mbps has been industry standard for a very long time now, at least on dedicated servers. If they really hope to get any business from these specials, they should be offered in terms that people can understand.

per 95th and per GB have their ups/downs. for instance if you get listed on thehun or whatever is "equivilent" to 5 years ago on the hun then per GB can save you a lot of money if you get listed oh 6-8 times a month. You simply pay for what you use. If you are on a gigE link this could be a grea thing. burn 300Mbps for 48 hours then die. and repeat a few times a month you can stay within your "transfer GB" amount and not blow up your billing based on the 95th.

Anywho this isn't my hosting thread so i'll shutup now. but thats my
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I've had a server with Caro for over 6 months. Speed and service are good. As for overages... I've never gone over.
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some great hoster for sure
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Clearly there seems to be a mis understanding here on overages...

The standard overage in this case is billed on a per GB model, and is readilly available to the end users at ALL times...

Plus of the packages listed, we assume you are going to explore the possibility of acquiring one of these based on your current bw needs, so immediately going to discredit them based on the percieved overages is not valid.

There isnt a chance it would be converted to per mbps, nor would it be billed at $75.00 per mbps.

For the sake of this thread not getting out of hand, and off point, I / we will honor a .10 per gb fee base on all packages, and state that the overages are totally negotiable...IF...they get out of hand. (you have the ability to track real time useage at all times...so this should never come as a suprise to anyone using these services)

That seems to be where most of the hesitation is coming in, or questions concerning the legitmacy of this promotion.

Any follow up questions or concerns after this are welcome, but I hope this has been made abundantly clear.

Please feel free to contact me directly concerning this, and bookmark/log the explanation so there is no further confusion.

Thanks.
I've been working with Caro for a couple of years now and gotten great support. I have know Jason for years and he is a man of his word and he works with his clients.
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