Mess with the bull - get the horns.

I hope that was ironic, otherwise you're the stupiest being I've ever not met

Another GFY animal abuser supporter then.

The list keeps growing and growing...

Great for pain relief as well. Put a bit of Wonderwall on next time you have a headache.

Try to remember you're on an English-speaking forum. We don't go to a French forum, act like le douches and then expect special treatment because French isn't our native tongue.

I hate it but uncivilized countries won't stop. Rather than trying to change a bunch of primates, just sit back and laugh whenever the bull gets one of their fruity asses on his horns.

In the US we have rodeos and although the hicks don't usually kill the animal, they do torture it for their enjoyment. I always laugh when one of those guys gets his head stomped by a horse or gets a horn in his ass.

You're on my long list of woman exploiters I've found on GFY. It keeps on growinnnn...

How the fuck do you know what the guy is doing 'closer to home' ???

And by raising awareness of something he is doing something about it. As for clearing is conscious it sounds like you are trying to clear yours because unless you are going to post a list of your anti-animal cruelty endeavors then he is doing more than you.

People need to eat and although I am a vego it is completely moronic to expect someone to protest places that sells meat. You would have to spend your whgole li

Just curious - do they eat it after it dies?

He shouldn't protest because they sell meat, he should protest because bulls are castrated, pumped with hormones, kept in tiny crates where they can neither stand nor turn... a lifetime of torture.

If you are a vegan you are already doing something "closer to home" unfortunately in my experience most people that speak against bullfighting do so only to make themselves feel better. They feel like they've done something right, they feel "holy" 5 minutes later they forget all about it and go back to their Big Mac. I could be wrong of course but from what I've read so far I am convinced he is one of those.

I have to log off but your argument that speaking is doing something I hear often but I can't agree with either.

It is like saying that the republican that tells people not to do drugs but does drugs himself is ok because he is raising awareness...

It's disgusting and should be banned. I saw the 60 Minutes segment on the two most popular brother bull fighters. They are 3rd generation fighters. One of them was seriously injured shortly after the taping.

Absolutely. It's butchered and sold for meat just like any other cow. Also the ranchers feel is it a great honor for their bulls to be chosen, and so they put forward their best bulls.

bump around here...

Oh I do buddy :thumbsup

It's just that it is was called ironic when I misspelled a word which is not in my mother tongue... I called someone who support buulfighting and thinks cock fights are enjoyable "to pass the weekend" a moron.. Is it acting like a douche ? I don't think so.

Cruelty toward animals in any matter, is just plain wrong wrong wrong... :2 cents: How can anybody with half a brain support that ?

And yes I do eat meat, but this is so not the point here

PS: What I said in french wasn't an insult at all BTW :)

I wonder which American customs that people from other countries consider to be barbaric or disgusting...

You know that if you eat meat, you ARE a part of animal cruelty, right? It's not the same as torturing for entertainment, I'll grant you. But it's not like they put the cows in a green pasture and inject them with morphine till they just fall asleep and die.

It's actually not a pretty sight, I know firsthand. And if you don't want to know what happens to the animal that is your meat before you eat it, then that's fine. That's your right. I can understand that completely. But that doesn't mean that what happens can't accurately be called animal cruelty.

edit:in case anyone missed it before, I am not a vegetarian*

Man I am so hungry after reading this thread...
http://www.bbqaddicts.com/blog/recipes/bacon-explosion/

DG

funny how people can get all worked up when an animal dies.. but when there's mass rape and genocide and torture in some African country, or elsewhere... no ones interested.

how about this.. why not try to end human suffering first? at least pretend to be a compassionate human being instead of lying to yourself and others with all your feel-good "save the animals" bullshit.

arent Cows the reason for global warming? I say we kill them all with bullfighting and then eat them.

:D

Are you kidding me? They're the same people who live in a first world country, yet when someone from a third would country manages to get there and try to start a new life, they tell them

GO BACK TO AFRICA

They love seeing people suffer, as long as it's not them.

He's against bull fighting but all for nuking Iraq. :1orglaugh

Just another cock smoking, haggis scoffing hypocrite acting all outraged.

i don't walk around stepping on kittens or anything like that... but animals are animals.

i feel quite a bit worse when i read about mass rape and genocide in Darfur, famine killing 2 million or more in North Korea, 2 million being hacked to death in Rwanda, prisoners being harvested for their organs in China, for the taliban beating and stoning people to death for moronic things, when Iran publicly hangs someone because they are gay and so on than i do about watching a cow being killed and butchered and eaten.

its extremely bizarre how white people can care so much about animals and so little about actual people. there is surely can't be another other species of animal on earth that is capable of more irrational behavior and irrational emotion than people

someone can set a kitten on fire tomorrow and nations will crumble with riots in the street.. and it will all happen while a little girl is right there, in the hospital, waiting on a bone marrow transplant before she dies and sobbing quietly to herself struggling to understand why no one steps up.

if you dont like it dont watch it stop trying to tell others how to live their lives.

LOL !! I wondered when this type of post would come up. It's already been spoke about in this thread.

:disgust

Every time there is one of these threads you say this exact same shit. It's like nobody can ever show concern about anything because there is always going to be a worst case scenario which seemingly invalidates the lesser of the two evils

Scott is expressing his concern regarding bullfighting, not genocide in darfur, not child abuse, not global warming but fucking bullfighting. If you are more concerned about kids dying from lack of bone marrow then start your own thread about it and make sure the first post contains all the things you have done for humanity.

Bravo sir, Bravo!! :thumbsup

That doesn't make a lot of sense.....If he was using a gun, you would say, "use a SPEAR or a bow and arrow and I'll be impressed."

There's not one of you in here who would get in the ring with a bull....PERIOD...

don't bulls and horses at the rodeo get tied with something that squeezes their genitals so that they go wild?

Well said, just because you are against animal cruelty doesn't mean you don't care for humans..it's a ridiculous logic.

Because its a fact that people get more concerned and emotional about an 100 animals a year dying in spain than they do about a 10,000 children dying a year by getting raped, tortured, dismembered and buried alive.

Its not about someone "expressing concern" about an animal.. its about the simple fact that there is more concern by white people for animals than other people. That's just a simple fact.

And to be perfectly honest, i don't give a shit about a bulls death taking 30 minutes by being repeatedly stabbed in a non lethal manner or children in Darfur. I have my own problems to worry about. The difference between myself and most others, is that i don't PRETEND to care. I don't FEIGN outrage while sleeping until noon, then sitting on my ass, playing Xbox 360 and eating pizza, drinking beer and posting on a message board.

So what's your gamertag?

The people on here insinuating that because someone can care about animal abuse then they dont care about starving kids in Africa.

I care a lot about animal abuse, infact it really pisses me off how someone can be cruel to animals. However I donate a lot of my own money each year to various childrens charities. Everytime I'm at the store and my change is less than 50 pence (80 cents) I tell them to put it in the charity box to help starving kids in Africa. I wonder how much I've put in those boxes over the years.

I donate regularly to SCIAF and children in need. It is possible to care about more than one cause. Just because some people don't post about suffering children on GFY doesnt mean we don't care. When I see the responses in threads like this when its an animal being abused, I often wonder if you guys are capable of caring about anything at all. Standing by and supporting abuse like killing bulls for sport is disgusting. I hate sounding all self righteous as I am no better than any of you guys here, however I care about Animals and poor people and starving children. If you don't have anything but negative shit to say on matter such as this stay out of it and go make more money.

that's great that you do that. but lets be honest here, you know very well that you are in the minority.

how many actually take action? how many of those who continually feign outrage at the worlds injustices actually take the time to do something about it?

it doesn't change the simple fact that when rick latona posts a video of a cat getting burned, people go ballistic and lose their minds and demand that the kids doing it be murdered in the most brutal way possible. when people post a video of a person getting burned, its just sad and gross and no one wants to watch.

with very rare exception, no one is taking time out of their busy day of eating doritos and big mac's and shitting their pants because they're too fat and lazy to leave the computer, to find out how they can ease the suffering of other people... but people have no problem letting others know how disgusted they are that a bull gets stabbed in the back.

what will they do about it?

nothing.

so whats the point of expressing outrage?

what is the total net change caused by that action? zero. and everyone knows this as they do it.

everyone knows that if they let the other 50 people here know that they are totally disgusted by what they are looking at, the total net effect of that action concerning other bulls and future bulls is "ZERO". the benefit is a person, feel good feeling about an individual letting other people know they care.

it shapes how others perceive them, and it reinforces things about themselves that they want to believe about themselves. and how many bulls will be saved? none.

one could argue that its a more brutal form of exploitation than actually being at the bullfight or being the bullfighter.

its nice that you give money to help others, but pretending that isn't a rare behavior when contrasted with the sheer volume of people who claim to care, isn't painting a very honest picture of humanity.

Do you only buy organic/free range food? never eat takeaways, processed food or 80% of restaurants. Because the animals have had a far worse life.

read up about sow crates, veal crates, battery chicken farms. Pretty much the only quality mass produced meat is lamb as you cant factory farm it.. that's why it's so damn expensive.

I don't agree with bullfighting, but it is very hypocritical to still eat badly produced meat and moan about bull fighting.. And the bulls do get their own back sometimes.

Alot of people in Spain don't like it either, it's not shown on the main TV channels anymore.

Are you serious with that statement???

Yea.... I don't like it too. I don't even accept hunting for fun... I've been always disgusted seeing deers without head in ditches around in my homeland. :disgust When I hunt I do it quick and not for fun I do it to get a dinner!

all the bleeding hearts should go back to exploiting women with low self esteem and continue your good will.....