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How does terra.es make money?

11-27-2002, 06:30 AM

Look at this site:
http://www.terra.es/personal9/springbreakwett/
no pop-ups, no banners, no nothing. If anyone knows exactly how they are making money from the site, please let me know. I know it's from redirects and 404s and shit like that, but I want to know exactly how they are doing it. If anyone knows, please let me know. If not, that's cool...

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11-27-2002, 06:35 AM

ur not for real are u? dumbass.

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11-27-2002, 06:37 AM

Filtering traffics? Redirecting?

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11-27-2002, 06:39 AM

lets play hangman....three letter word

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11-27-2002, 06:53 AM

EXACTLY how do they make money with the site. I know it's from redirects and/or 404s and/or other shit that you can't see from a casual visit. But, I want to know EXACTLY how they do it.

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11-27-2002, 06:54 AM

Actually they dont redirect and there 404 isnt exactly a money maker.
http://www.terra.es/personal9/springbreakwett/blah
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11-27-2002, 06:57 AM

Battus, that's a terrible 404. Perhaps the 'fake' one they use during a small % of visits has a little bit more on it...
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11-27-2002, 07:01 AM

Originally posted by DjSap
lets play hangman....three letter word

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Ok i'm gonna help out a little bit

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11-27-2002, 07:02 AM

Most likely they get all their income from mainpage advertising.

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11-27-2002, 07:03 AM

Originally posted by DjSap

Ok i'm gonna help out a little bit

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Hmm that's a hard one.
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11-27-2002, 07:03 AM

" Ha sido imposible encontrar la página solicitada. Inténtalo más tarde"

... that means: Site not found, but we silent delivered a dialer from hell to your computer, thanks for surfing terra.es. error pages.

... I am not familiar with the spanish language, so I can not held liable for that traslation ....
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11-27-2002, 07:04 AM

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" Ha sido imposible encontrar la página solicitada. Inténtalo más tarde"

... that means: Site not found, but we silent delivered a dialer from hell to your computer, thanks for surfing terra.es. error pages.

... I am not familiar with the spanish language, so I can not held liable for that traslation ....

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11-27-2002, 07:09 AM

I'd say terra is one huge ISP provider offering also free hosting like any other providers do. They have their own cables buried in ground so they don't worry about bandwidth too much. But "don't worry" doesn't mean they don't delete bandwidth eating adult pages almost immediately. Times they really didn't care about are long time over.

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11-27-2002, 07:12 AM

Terra.es doesn't make money from their freehosting. Simple as that.
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11-27-2002, 07:15 AM

"I'd say terra is one huge ISP provider offering also free hosting like any other providers do."

... you almost got it right ... the secret is DIRECT PEERING. they have to try to push as much bandwith as they can to get into direct peering with others ... pretty hard to explain, but I guess some cogent based hosting guy will be able to uncover the secrets of direct peering here ...
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11-27-2002, 07:37 AM

Originally posted by funkmaster
"I'd say terra is one huge ISP provider offering also free hosting like any other providers do."

... you almost got it right ... the secret is DIRECT PEERING. they have to try to push as much bandwith as they can to get into direct peering with others ... pretty hard to explain, but I guess some cogent based hosting guy will be able to uncover the secrets of direct peering here ...

hmmmm...he may be on to something....

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11-27-2002, 07:39 AM

Originally posted by Darren
ur not for real are u? dumbass.

Assuming everyone who asks a questions is a dumbass is being a dumbass yourself.

Seeing that you do not even know how to check your own PR rating in Google, it does not make you the most knowledgeable webmaster alive either:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...postid=1119874

Notice how I answered your question in that thread without calling you a dumbass?

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11-27-2002, 07:53 AM

Originally posted by HQ

Assuming everyone who asks a questions is a dumbass is being a dumbass yourself.

Seeing that you do not even know how to check your own PR rating in Google, it does not make you the most knowledgeable webmaster alive either:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...postid=1119874

Notice how I answered your question in that thread without calling you a dumbass?

my apologise dumbass.

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11-27-2002, 09:51 AM

Originally posted by HQ

Assuming everyone who asks a questions is a dumbass is being a dumbass yourself.

Seeing that you do not even know how to check your own PR rating in Google, it does not make you the most knowledgeable webmaster alive either:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...postid=1119874

Notice how I answered your question in that thread without calling you a dumbass?

At least Darren was able to add 2" to his penis.

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11-27-2002, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by Darren
my apologise dumbass.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=90457

Having problems finding Oveture's Search Suggestion Tool? You are not exactly smart, sorry to break the news to you.

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11-27-2002, 09:58 AM

Originally posted by Exxxotica
At least Darren was able to add 2" to his penis.
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11-27-2002, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by Darren
ur not for real are u? dumbass.

Um... who's the loser who posted this:

Originally posted by Darren here: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...postid=1119874
i think its PR? sites get rated out of 10 for link popularity anyone know how to find it out for ur own site?

Oh, that's right, it was you.
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11-27-2002, 10:00 AM

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11-27-2002, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by funkmaster
"I'd say terra is one huge ISP provider offering also free hosting like any other providers do."

... you almost got it right ... the secret is DIRECT PEERING. they have to try to push as much bandwith as they can to get into direct peering with others ... pretty hard to explain, but I guess some cogent based hosting guy will be able to uncover the secrets of direct peering here ...

This topic does not seem so simple anymore all of a sudden. Funny what happens when knowledgeable people start to contribute...
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11-27-2002, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by Darren

my apologise dumbass.

Apologies.

When a non-native speaker knows more about your language than yourself, then the time to worry has come.

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11-27-2002, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by sherbert

Apologies.

When a non-native speaker knows more about your language than yourself, then the time to worry has come.

Again it is shown that he is not very smart. Newbies come and go; As soon as they learn a little html coding they try to assert their dominance over others whenever they think they know an answer to a question. They would look more intelligent if they had just kept quiet.

Check out his threads, they all ask ridiculously easy questions, far easier than how terra.es works. Having problems getting height and width of your windows set properly, Darren?

If you look at the threads I start, for example, they are usually not easy questions to answer. However, whenver I do see an easy question, I just answer it instead of making fun.

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11-27-2002, 10:19 AM

being the owners of the biggest network in the world, including terra, tripod, lycos, plus several telecoms around the world, including Deutsche Telekomm, Telefonica de España, Telefonica de Argentina, participation in Bell Atlantic, participation in AOL and more than 70 TV channels around the world... I guess they can afford to lose the $2 CPM from 404. But what do I know?

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11-27-2002, 10:21 AM

Originally posted by harvey
being the owners of the biggest network in the world, including terra, tripod, lycos, plus several telecoms around the world, including Deutsche Telekomm, Telefonica de España, Telefonica de Argentina, participation in Bell Atlantic, participation in AOL and more than 70 TV channels around the world... I guess they can afford to lose the $2 CPM from 404. But what do I know?

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11-27-2002, 10:27 AM

... and just to add, the average TGP guy burns more money on bandwith than AOL does ... wanna bet ??
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11-27-2002, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by funkmaster
... and just to add, the average TGP guy burns more money on bandwith than AOL does ... wanna bet ??

How so? Let's see some math!
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11-28-2002, 02:48 AM

Originally posted by HQ

Check out his threads, they all ask ridiculously easy questions, far easier than how terra.es works. Having problems getting height and width of your windows set properly, Darren?

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11-28-2002, 04:22 AM

Originally posted by DjSap

Ok i'm gonna help out a little bit

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11-28-2002, 05:12 AM

... you almost got it right ... the secret is DIRECT PEERING. they have to try to push as much bandwith as they can to get into direct peering with others ... pretty hard to explain, but I guess some cogent based hosting guy will be able to uncover the secrets of direct peering here ...

Jup, I guess that's what it's about. In Europe there are quite a few hub's where big providers talk between each other. And this is how it works (simplistic model).

ISP A: downloads 500pB from ISP B
ISP B: downloads 200pB from ISP A

Let's say that ISP A is an underdog and ISP B a big player. Let's say that these two ISP's peer trough 12Mb connection. What happens is, that traffic from B to A works fine, but from A to B it get's sluggish. Now ISP B has two options:

a) increase the gateway speed (big dough involved)
b) find some good websites that increase the traffic from B to A and increase the gateway speed with mutual agreement.

I don't know, whether there could be some good hosting opportunities with this. If someone get's a deal with a telco for hosting free, let us know!

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11-28-2002, 07:46 AM

" Ha sido imposible encontrar la página solicitada. Inténtalo más tarde"

Means this: "It was imposible to find the requested page, Try it later" as you could see they don't get any profit from that. They don't redirect, etc.

About Terra, It's the ISP used by 80% of spanish surfers and as HQ said, they are the owners of the biggest network in the world, including terra, tripod, lycos, plus several telecoms around the world, including Deutsche Telekomm, Telefonica de España, Telefonica de Argentina, participation in Bell Atlantic, participation in AOL and more than 70 TV channels around the world.

Think on it, that bandwith it's nothign for them, think on sponsors givng away sport cars, id they don't care it's because they got much more profit. When you offer something for free, it's because advertisement, not to get profit directly from it.

Another point, terra started as telefonica internet department, Telefonica was the first abnd only spanish goverment company for years untill spanish allowed more companies to start in that biz and made telefonica a private company. All phone lines in Spain were built by them. Their main point is to get the whole spanish language online bussines (counting ppl, not resources, is almost as big as the english one). So their terra.es portal got tons of income from their front page advertisement and even loosing money, they main point is to get future customers.

And the most important thing is this: Their free hosts it's only for their customers and they DON'T ALLOW PORN at their free host!!! but as old goberment company, they got tons of lazy guys working for them, almost as many boss than workers (mybe even more) so they move so slow, takes ages even to close a CP site, etc. Sad but true. But there is a new law in Spain, really hard against the online bussines, so Terra will close porn sites faster now as they could be sued by the spanish goberment.

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11-28-2002, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by Juge
Look at this site:
http://www.terra.es/personal9/springbreakwett/
no pop-ups, no banners, no nothing. If anyone knows exactly how they are making money from the site, please let me know. I know it's from redirects and 404s and shit like that, but I want to know exactly how they are doing it. If anyone knows, please let me know. If not, that's cool...

he has a link to juges bikini

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11-28-2002, 10:30 AM

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he has a link to juges bikini

Yes, it does. I was checking on some trades, and came about this site. I don't link to sites with pop-ups, and I know some free hosts take 1% of their traffic and blast it with 404 and end-less pop-ups. If terra.es did this, I was going to cancel this trade. I guess this will never happen, but eventually the site will die as it is illegal on the terra.es network.
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11-28-2002, 12:12 PM

Originally posted by harvey
being the owners of the biggest network in the world, including terra, tripod, lycos, plus several telecoms around the world, including Deutsche Telekomm, Telefonica de España, Telefonica de Argentina, participation in Bell Atlantic, participation in AOL and more than 70 TV channels around the world... I guess they can afford to lose the $2 CPM from 404. But what do I know?

Add Telefonica de Brasil and the brazilian Terra (the ADSL ISP I use).
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