:glugglug

This all depends on how many TGPs the person wants me to submit to.

And could everyone whose bitching, please stop the bitching. If you have a problem with it, then don't post in this thread. Sometimes people are looking for folks to submit their galleries for them, I was just seeing if anyone was looking at the moment.

Thanks,
Brian

Just more tangible evidence that I do in fact argue with even myself.

:glugglug

There was me gonna drop this...

You're still making no sense at all. It is only gonna be used on one computer. The guys not offering to sell the program to other people. He's using it to do the job it was intended for - he's using it on one PC to help him with his work ie submitting galleries for people. If someone wants to pay him for his time using it how would that be a problem? If the GASS guy gets pissed at someone doing that for whatever reason then it still seems plain daft to me - but it's his shout. Neither of your arguments do or will stand up though as far as I'm concerned. GASS remains a tool to assist hand submitting and nothing else. What the people are paying for is the time and effort it takes the guy to hand submit.


Fuck it - that really is it. I don't have a clue how you can't see that or can see points that aren't there but genuinely care little. It's just tough to not have the last word isn't it? So I'll leave that to you as it'll make you happy.

Railz - go back and read your reply with all the quotes where you start babbling about 'my customers' and tell me you make any sense. You make none at all.

Have fun people.

How about this fuck-o

You email Darksoft and tell them you are offering your
'Submitting services' on GFY.

Here is the contact info.

email [email protected]
ICQ 8417684

POst your email you send them, and post their reply.

Until then, I say you drop it because you are using their product commercially and without their permission.

:glugglug

How about this, immature-o

Go whine and cry in someone elses thread. I didn't come here to argue with you, I came here to ask if anyone needed what I have to offer.

Exactly what Tipsy said, I am not renting/leasing, whatever. I am saying... I can submit your galleries for XX amount of money.

How I submit them? That is my business. I own a copy of G.A.S.S., if I want to use it to help me get my work done (which is what it was meant for) why can't I do this?

I am not saying I will give you a copy for XX amount of dollars a week, that would be renting it.

I am offering a service, and to aid me with that service I am using G.A.S.S.

What seems to be your big problem, coming here calling me names and such.

THANKS
Brian

So, it's okay to make money using someone else's software product when the paying party has not bought a license for said product, or is licensed to use it in any way, remotely or installed?

Heck - you can look at it another way. Say I'm thinking about buying that bit of software, but this guy pops up and offers to use his copy for me and I don't have to buy it. He makes money using it, the author looses a sale from me.



People used to try this line for selling items or characters in Everquest. They'd put on the auction that you weren't buying the account (which you'd never paid a license fee for or to use at all) but you were paying them for their time in creating the account.

It didn't last long. At the end of the day, Verant owned the software and you simply had a one use, no rental or resale clause there too.

Just an example.



Correct. I didn't write the software, but I'm sure that if I did, I'd be doing more than trying to explain software licenses and fair-use policies to you on a message board inbetween working :)



See point above. If he was hand submitting using nothing else than the hands God gave him and a keyboard, then he'd be free and clear.



Thanks! How very profound of you.

I was just paraphrasing your post while directing the implication of his actions in a hypothetical sense. Maybe I should've been more clear on that and I applologize.

I seem to be your problem, not the other way around.

I called you a name because of your obvious ignorance.

I need not justify myself to you.

Read the terms of the program you use.

:glugglug

I am about finished arguing with you people. I should have known that as soon as I came here some bigmouth would have to start someting.

If anyone is interested,
[email protected]

Thank you everyone. You all have Happy Holidays :thumbsup
Brian

You too! Look forward to your next drive-by spam!

I didn't read their terms but if they only have the no renting... no selling stuff in their terms he can use it to submit galleries of other people.

If they have something like this in their terms it's a different story... "You may not make access to [...] available to others in connection with a service bureau, application service provider, or similar business, or use [...] in a business to provide services to others."

Guys - i specifically said.

Email Darksoft, ask them

What so hard about that?

Let them decide.

If he wanted to be legit and play legal he would.

Its obvious he doesnt want to play legal.

Nothing to do with me.

It's not drive-by spam, I am still going to post at these boards...

All I said was that I am done arguing with you people, which I could see why that made you think this was spam... in order to be done arguing with you people I would have to leave completely.

Posting an offer, then leaving, yeah, that's spam to you.

But nah, I am still going to be around, just not in the mood to argue with you folks.

While he's submitting galleries for other people, he's not using it for himself, the licensed party.

That's how I read the license.

Not really arguing.

Offering advice.

Sorry you see it the other way.

All I said was email them, see what they say. Wheres the harm in that?

But you wont do that.

My friend, just so you know, I emailed darksoft and am waiting for a response.

Don't make it sound like I am here to scam folks by implying that I am as illegal as possible.

That is not my goal at all.

Yup - good point.

Email Darksoft, let them know about this thread, post the response and play it by the book.

Simple really.

Cool.

then we wait.

So how long ya been in the biz bruh?

:glugglug

I AM using it for myself. I AM using it to speed up MY JOB, which is what I believe it was put there for. I am not advertising that if you want GASS but do not want to buy it, pay me and I'll do it for you. I am saying I will do the job for you. How do I do it? I use GASS to speed up the job. There is a difference there.

A lot of people submit galleries for other people, and they have never had a problem.

It's there to speed things up, I bought it to do exactly that.

I'm going to have to dissagree there for reasons I've already stated.



So why even mention G.A.S.S in the first place? Why not leave it as "hand submitting"? Did you use someone else's trademark to add clout to your pitch?



No doubt. Every submission service I've ever encountered however either does it by hand (i.e. with no additional help from automation) or by using custom desktop Win32 apps or scripts written by themselves.

That's cool - that's what it was designed to do. Speed up YOUR submissions. When you start submitting someone else's gallery using a proxy, they're no longer yours.

It is still MY SUBMISSIONS.

It just happens to be that the gallery I SUBMIT was created by someone else, who has decided that he/she would rather have me do the work than him/her.

No, I didn't mention it to add pitch, I mentioned it incase someone wanted to know how I planned on submitting. The less detail I use the more questions I will get, so I figured to throw it all out there.

you're such a pussy... everytime posing on "The GFY Cop" :1orglaugh

Okay if it's your submission then let me ask you this.

Do you get the money from the sales generated from that submission?

If it's yours, then surely you do?

Okay so you wanted to clarify how you'd be using this bit of software to make a bit of money on the side?

No, I don't get money from the individual sales,

You keep the sales, but you pay me X amout of money for generating the sales.

When you work at a regular job, do you get all profits you generated for that period? No, you get your $X/hour paycheck.

Again, I am not advertising that I use GASS and if you don't want to buy it, email me and I'll use it for you. I am advertising that I can submit your stuff. Forget about how I do it.

I have emailed darksoft and will find out from them.

Go grab another beer and mellow out, my friend.

So if they're your submissions, why aren't you getting any of the sales?

Doesn't that strike you as odd?

Your arguement is that you're simply using the software as it was intended to be used (i.e. on your machine submitting your own galleries). If the galleries do not reside on domains you own, with designs you either made yourself or commissioned yourself and containing pictures that you do not hold a license to use, how can they be your submissions?



So now you're charging people to generate sales and traffic using a bought program that the recipient of the sales never has to have a license for, nor has to ever even touch?

If you were generating sales for me, say, by sending your own traffic with your own refcode and then giving me the money, then that would be okay with you by your own arguements?



But you're assuming that we're working for a salary. We're not - we are commision based.

If I work for an insurance firm and I get X% of every policy I sell and I sell zero policies, I'm getting nothing.



Want to read your own replies? If you're not using it, why did you mention it in the first place?



But you're NOT using GASS to submit why did you email Darksoft to find out what's what?

Too early for me by half, but thanks.

I emailed darksoft to clear things up.

Again, I do not want to argue/debate this shit anymore.

If anyone is interested, my contact details are throughout this message.

Goodnight

Have a good one! Hope you've learnt something.

I hope he learned not to bother arguing with morons like yourself and Fletch. There is no clear case to be made that he is violating the GASS license agreement, period.

Its sad to see two self righteous babies playing lawyer and trying to fuck up someones business.

Why should he email Darksoft, because the almighty Railz and Fletch demand it?

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You two have big fucking heads. Hope everything goes ok, sic.

what a gay thread....Fletch switch to other herbs....obviously
the ones you smoked while posting in this thread were no good.

Have you become Judge Judy?

DynaMite:2 cents:

Both DrinkingHard and VA2k use gass to hand submit galleries for people and both advertise it a service on this board. Its a good service.

My guess is Fletch would not be making this amount of stupid posts if it was one of their threads he was replying to.

And lest you think these two jokers are anything to be worried about...

Fletch is an ex-crackhead/alkie who persists in smoking weed and drinking despite overwhelming evidence.. this thread for instance.. that his brain has suffered enough chemical abuse for one lifetime.

Railz has barely outgrown his Toms Newbie Booster training wheels and wants to play with the big kids on GFY.

I know coming to GFY for the first time can be confusing, but these are not two people whose opinions.. in the grand scheme of the adult internet.. you need to be giving a fuck about.

So its time to grow some balls. Now, repeat after me.. "Fletch, go fuck yourself, you crackhead bitch"

Feels good, doesn't it? :thumbsup

:)

Gutterboy, thanks for your support.

They don't intimidate me, I just didn't come here to argue, I came here looking for people who I could possibly help and they could help me.

Brian,

The only thing I really have issue with is this statement you made on GFY:

Again, I am not advertising that I use GASS and if you don't want to buy it, email me and I'll use it for you.

That cuts into my sales. Had you not mentioned my product at all, it probably wouldn't have been an issue. Now everyone that sees that thread and uses your service is a lost sale for me.

However, nothing in the license prevents it's use for the purpose which you intend. I would like to impress upon you the necessity of NOT using my company name or product name in your advertising of your service UNLESS it is for the sole purpose of sending customers my way.

If you have any other questions, let me know.

Joel




That is what darksoft emailed me back with.

and this quote:

Again, I am not advertising that I use GASS and if you don't want to buy it, email me and I'll use it for you.

was misunderstood. It went with the line below it. The person who quoted me also got it wrong.

I was saying that I AM using it to submit galleries
I was saying that I AM NOT SAYING that I will do GASSs work for you IF YOU DONT WANT TO BUY IT.

That was my point. I should have chose better words.

Oh, and, to everyone who talked shit when everything I did was not breaking any rules whatsoever, Go Fuck Yourself

siccmade - you could at least have updated you're gass list. The list you posted is the default list that comes with gass. Many of those sites no longer exsist/take submissions etc.

That list is much larger than the default list, and I submit everyday to that list.

There may be a COUPLE that are sometimes down, or are not currently accepting galleries, but they stay because it is what that client wants.

That is not just the default list, it's the list I submit to daily.

OHH Burn on fletch and railz

SUCKERS ahah

I thought it was me.

yes, it's quite unreadable

You guys are easily navigated.

Too funny.

hehehe

:smokin

All I did was say email DS.

I recall you doing a lot more stupid things and having to apologize on the board for your drunkeness.

All I did was stir a little shit and you guys are going off.

hahaha

Damn a few beers and a few posts and youre all mad at meeee.. awwwww.

Im lost now.

:smokin