When streamray pulls out the ratio card.. - GoFuckYourself.com

MrMaxwell · 05-05-2009, 08:48 PM

They told me no payout and my account would be converted because PPO only works for people with some pie in the sky ratio... fine... it's may 5th and it still shows what I really should have made and no payout
What's the story here?

i need a better name · 05-05-2009, 08:50 PM

ok.. i'll park myself here

Barefootsies · 05-05-2009, 08:51 PM

here's a bump for you tootsie.

good luck.

05-05-2009, 08:54 PM

MrMaxwell having a double whammy bad day?

One thing i think we all can agree on, streamray stats make zero sense

MrMaxwell · 05-05-2009, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrCodey

MrMaxwell having a double whammy bad day?

One thing i think we all can agree on, streamray stats make zero sense

Hello no it's been a fine day for me

Juilan · 05-05-2009, 09:37 PM

This has been gone over a billion times before. But from an affiliate's point of view you should be sending them targetted cams traffic. For instance to use a indicator if your uniques to free signups ratio is around 1:80, 1:60 or better then YOU have cams traffic. I use PPO and PCT and don't fuck around.

If not why send it? One wm under me he has like 115299 uniques 48 frees, and 0 signups. Why throw traffic at something they don't want....

LiveDose · 05-05-2009, 09:42 PM

What were your ratios? Frees and conversions to signups?

MrMaxwell · 05-05-2009, 11:12 PM

The ratios are fucking horrible
But I've never, ever, had a PPO program say to me.. hey, your ratios have to be X or we're not going to pay you per sign-up.....

If it's more common than I know, I'm sorry, but I've been fucking with this since before most of you knew how to turn a computer on...

Puremeds-J · 05-05-2009, 11:17 PM

No matter what, worst case scenario.. I have had companies say to me... "Im sorry its just not working out, lets go revshare for now on, and we;ll pay out pps until today." Never, in 10 years, has a company told me they wouldnt payout whats old.. thats bullshit

CyberHustler · 05-05-2009, 11:23 PM

I took a look at FriendFinder.com (not AdultFriendFinder, but same company) and was thinking about MAYBE promoting them with pay per membership links and shit... And guess what? Miraculously I instantly make 2 bucks and got stats for traffic I never sent yet... I took a minute and thanked Jesus for making my life so easy and then I notice this on the bottom of the stats page:

Quote:

Traffic Quality22 uniques per FREE signup (You will be retroactively converted to the percentage payout plan if you do not reach the ratio of 1 free signup every 20 uniques or 1 paid membership every 25 free signups.)

Like, fuck dude! At least give me a real chance...

baddog · 05-06-2009, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

The ratios are fucking horrible
But I've never, ever, had a PPO program say to me.. hey, your ratios have to be X or we're not going to pay you per sign-up.....

Pretty standard.

05-06-2009, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberHustler

I took a look at FriendFinder.com (not AdultFriendFinder, but same company) and was thinking about MAYBE promoting them with pay per membership links and shit... And guess what? Miraculously I instantly make 2 bucks and got stats for traffic I never sent yet... I took a minute and thanked Jesus for making my life so easy and then I notice this on the bottom of the stats page:

Like, fuck dude! At least give me a real chance...

It's true, there is no PPC, or PPO anymore.. They know the stats, the know the averages, and now piss on anyone who is under their quality norms.

This goes back many years when they first startrd. they had something like $70-$125 payouts PPO, and yet they always promoted going revshare to get that big WHALE and
supposed lifetime reoccuring..

2 accounts were created, I sent 5% of my traffic to PPO and 95% to revshare..
I made $50/w on revshare and $600/w on this PPO's the revshare money never advanced, and never did I ever see a whale.. once in a while got a nice day where someone spent $100 supposedly, but that person never came back.. most sales i get $2.00 rev.. WOOPIE! So how are they paying the $125? Crosssell? who knows, i just went all PPO and made a killing cuz it pays 10 times as much.. But now they have the stats and know this.. so the PPC game and the PPO game is now over. It's obviousl with PPC, why should they even have such a stupid system..

<sarcasm>Hi, yeah send 10 hits 10 sales we will pay you more.. send 20 hits get 10 sales.. ugh yeah we only pay you 50% of that.. DOH, whats the fucking point?</sarcasm>

I starting to think that this company doesnt even use a revshare plan, cuz i can make no sense of their stats.. Seems to be you get mysterious sales every now and then based on your raw signup numbers to email accounts.. And when you make really good money for a week.. the next week the raw numbers mysteriously double or triple with same signups and you have $0.00 $0.00 $2.00 $0.00 week for no appararent reason

05-06-2009, 10:37 AM

quote below

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

Pretty standard.

WRONG!!

Iron Fist · 05-06-2009, 10:42 AM

Sounds like fun times...

MrMaxwell · 05-07-2009, 01:59 AM

I feel like I felt when Cyberthrill got me..
And yea, if you been around, they got YOU too
And I ain't felt it in my ass for a long time

Quagmire · 05-07-2009, 04:43 PM

I threw targeted traffic at them with one account and they still converted it on me. shrug.
The reality is programs will do what they want and there is fuck all you can do about it. At the end of the day they are holding the money.

pornguy · 05-07-2009, 05:27 PM

If you want a good program that can take quality traffic and convert it Let me know.

05-05-2009, 08:48 PM	#1
MrMaxwell Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 10,057	When streamray pulls out the ratio card.. They told me no payout and my account would be converted because PPO only works for people with some pie in the sky ratio... fine... it's may 5th and it still shows what I really should have made and no payout What's the story here?

05-05-2009, 08:51 PM	#3
Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	here's a bump for you tootsie. good luck. __________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

05-05-2009, 09:37 PM	#6
Juilan Sultan of Swing Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: XXXodus Posts: 15,141	This has been gone over a billion times before. But from an affiliate's point of view you should be sending them targetted cams traffic. For instance to use a indicator if your uniques to free signups ratio is around 1:80, 1:60 or better then YOU have cams traffic. I use PPO and PCT and don't fuck around. If not why send it? One wm under me he has like 115299 uniques 48 frees, and 0 signups. Why throw traffic at something they don't want.... __________________ My Best Converting VOD Sponsor \| Last edited by Juilan; 05-05-2009 at 09:39 PM..

05-05-2009, 09:42 PM	#7
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05-05-2009, 11:17 PM	#9
Puremeds-J Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Mountains of Washington State Posts: 939	No matter what, worst case scenario.. I have had companies say to me... "Im sorry its just not working out, lets go revshare for now on, and we;ll pay out pps until today." Never, in 10 years, has a company told me they wouldnt payout whats old.. thats bullshit __________________ BiWeekly Payouts with no delay! - Now on NATS - $30 Per Trial - Check, Wire, Paxum! WE GOT AFRICAN MANGO! - Check out our New Reality Tour for CXPILL!

05-05-2009, 08:50 PM	#2
i need a better name Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 38	ok.. i'll park myself here

05-05-2009, 08:54 PM	#4
MrCodey Guest Posts: n/a	MrMaxwell having a double whammy bad day? One thing i think we all can agree on, streamray stats make zero sense

05-05-2009, 11:12 PM	#8
MrMaxwell Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 10,057	The ratios are fucking horrible But I've never, ever, had a PPO program say to me.. hey, your ratios have to be X or we're not going to pay you per sign-up..... If it's more common than I know, I'm sorry, but I've been fucking with this since before most of you knew how to turn a computer on...

05-06-2009, 10:42 AM	#14
Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	Sounds like fun times... __________________ i like waffles

05-07-2009, 01:59 AM	#15
MrMaxwell Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 10,057	I feel like I felt when Cyberthrill got me.. And yea, if you been around, they got YOU too And I ain't felt it in my ass for a long time

05-07-2009, 04:43 PM	#16
Quagmire Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Stinkin' up your bathroom Posts: 6,490	I threw targeted traffic at them with one account and they still converted it on me. shrug. The reality is programs will do what they want and there is fuck all you can do about it. At the end of the day they are holding the money. __________________

05-07-2009, 05:27 PM	#17
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