ok my bad, should be posted here

but i have heard plenty of both sides, and i have made my conclusions.

What proof can I provide?

A non-existant paypal receipt.

You smug fuck, you make me sick.

Humor, drama, witty remarks, snappy combacks, flat-out power-pissing......

THIS THREAD'S GOT IT ALL BABY!!

i havent seen any witty remarks on gfy for ages

:winkwink:

As I stated before, I don't even want his money anymore.

After a year of non-payment someone goes from the debt list to the shit list in my book.

The fact that he can come on after screwing so many people over and do the whole "na na ni na na" thing, makes me wanna pull my hair out.

thats gfy for ya

:thumbsup

OK OK OK OK OK OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I think everyone needs to
1. stop drinking
2. have a good long sleep
3. BREATH

and if need be return tomorrow.

excellent advice Angel.... I'm going to take it. :)

Stop drinking??

Yes .... I never tried taking credit for dagget's work bro ... it is KICKASS !!!!!

Dagget was paid for his worklong before any of this whatever the fuck last night was happened ...

Here Paul, let me help you out a little:

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Dear everyone I screwed over,

I am really sor........














-Hungryman

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You can fill in the rest.

Yeah ... I hear ya Angel ... my GF is telling me the same thing

once again ... you women are always right :(

Hmmmm,
500 posts huh?

Guess you're too much of a man to apologise.

Every story has 2 sides
the one you chose to believe is your porogative king

no offense taken

OK .... I am going to break down my outer shell here for a moment ...

Diggy :
I am truely sorry you will not be receiving a fucking dime of the $200 I owed you ,,, but I told you that by approaching my clients behind my back and trying to have them deal directly with you, YOU broke our contract .... sorry to say but I am well within the law .... ask your lawyer, and if he wants to contact mine, he is more than welcome to ..

No Hungryman, he chooses to believe the truth. You fucked up. Sorry, but you have no case here.

How can you dispute the fact that you fucked people over?

Oh yeah, and how's your leg? Wasn't it suppose to get amputated and that's why you couldn't pay your designers?

I can't believe I felt sorry for you, it is now obvious it was all lies.

Oh yeah, and you say you paid me right?

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You have received a message!
naw man ... I am not asking for charity ... besides, I still owe you anyways
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You sent me that message via iCQ, July this year. Last thing I ever heard from you.

I don't understand why you have to be such an asshole. Why is it so hard for you to admit you were wrong, apologise to everyone and move on?

More 100% Vertified Hungryman Bullshit.

Just when you can't stoop any lower you start fabricating even more absurd crap.

Do you honestly believe that making things up out of thin air will help you out of this situation?

Think again.

Man this thread is fucking crazy and I usually dont take sides... But it must suck to be Hungryman cause thats exactly what your going to be a very hungy man with no work... Shit that must suck.

Just an opinion, but don't start dragging down and blaming Lensmans board because of your problems. That's kinda fucked up.

anyway, carry on.

Umm. That sounds awful lot like you're leaving + you don't like GFY. Why? Because of this incident? If you have nothing to hide, you've done everything like you're supposed to, you could just tell everyone to fuck off. That's what I would do, and then continue to hang around here. You bashing GFY and saying that other boards are more 'valued' gives the impression you have some skeletons in your closet and you wish to be on a board where ppl don't care. I hope this ain't the case.

Just tell people to fuck themselves if you're an honest man with nothing to hide.:2 cents:

Have you been sticking your finger in your belly button and sniffing it again? :winkwink:

What better place to stash peanut butter?

Yes. I'm disgusted by myself.:throwup

One thing I learnt months ago was to NEVER do work with the so called celebrities of GFY, all I got from paying people who GFY gave a reputation to as being good designers or good amateur phorographers was complete and utter SHIT. I wasted about $4k on people like this and now my lesson is learnt, I will give me small shit to gfy designers etc but then work with people with a good biz rep allround for anything else I want..

wrong. He will still get loads of work GFY is NOT the only board and a board doesnt dictate someones success.

Also Tylo u only half finished a job of mine and it over ran so I wouldnt start dissing other people.

just to clarify, the hungryman computer thread was posted back in March of this year. I helped Paul because he was really down and out. I would do the same for any other of my friends...

DH

please contact me Hungryman cuz I own the design used at paysitedesign.com - I paid and bought it yesterday!

Nope if I hire you to contract work... I can and will charge what ever I want. I've been in business for years (main stream) and been doing it for years. That's business. What the market will bear. If I contract you *For Hire* for a web page design we agree on $1000.00 you do the work I pay you, you deliver...then you are out of the loop... ** THAT ** is my web page to do with what ever I want, and you have *NO* say. We had a business deal. You have no ideal what my overhead is and what I *HAVE* to make when I resell your * For Hire * work .

I don't post here very often, but I have been reading this BBS for more than long enough to know an aweful lot about what goes on here, and yes I have been sorta keeping score too.

Let me play Nostradamus here and predict that HUNGRYMAN is still sitting real pretty in all of this. If I am not mistaken, HUNGRYMAN still may have a wild card or two to play out

The game's not over until the fat lady sings



:2 cents:

just wanted to contribute to this thread


http://www.sexy-celebs.net/hotlink/american_n2.jpg


http://www.sexy-celebs.net/hotlink/enter_16.jpg


http://www.sexy-celebs.net/hotlink/enter_23.jpg


http://www.sexy-celebs.net/hotlink/t_rev2.jpg

:2 cents:

Not that I fit anywhere in this, but I was happy with the work I recieved from Hungryman. Whether he did it or not, I was still happy.


I hired him through DrinkingHard, and I got what I paid for.

So many people bashing him, I just thought I'd give an alternate opinion.

Let me know if i'm wrong, but the way I see it...

HM finds client
HM finds designer
Designer does work
HM presents work to client
Client pays HM
Designer doesn't get paid

What happens to this money?

I think the moral of this story is: Don't spend money that isn't yours.

Again, if i'm wrong, let me know.

PJ, that's the whole point I was trying to make, don't spend money that isn't yours.

Oh well, no one seems to really care.

HM is sure doing a good job of avoiding this issue.

I hope that you bought that design for like $1 as a joke or to prove some kind of point. If you paid real dough and you actually expect somebody to contact YOU, who just came out of the blue yesterday making a claim in a situation like this, you're smokin something that you need to be sharing with me. After you spend the extra time and money on top of the other bullshit to enforce your payment for this design, it will cost you way more.

:2 cents:

Just gotta say, I've hired Hungryman for some work it was done on time and as as expected.
Now if he did it, or if he paid some kid in russia to do what I do care, it was done to spec and on time.

Most poeple in this business and most business have people that work for/with them it s afact of business.

If you notice AMP has walked away from this maybe its time for everyone else to get back to work as well, jsut my 2 cents

Now sykk have zoe come clean up my typo's pleas :)

You're probably right about just getting back to work, but is no one seeing the real point here?

People keep coming on here saying "Oh I'm happy with the work I got from Hungryman, it was on time, etc." The issue is that he didn't pay the designers, fucked them round, not that the work wasn't delivered to the client.

Anyway I'm thinking everyone has had enough of this, as have I.

I'm willing to let all this go, I just wish good 'ol Hungryman would have said sorry.

Oh well. :winkwink:

I hate to be the voice of reason, But this is a fuckin Joke!
I party with the best of the them, ANd I have never lost my cool under the influence.. What happened here is a disgrace. It's a disgrace that Fletch, Amp, and a few others neeed a computer screen to be a whole person. (besides the fact that they have been hooked to they've PC for the last 48 hours)

Our Lawyers have been contacted And we are in our right. Garykreman sumed it up right (waste your own time looking for the post).

WE have been successful in our bussiness and will continue to be. THe fact that we use many diffeerent Designer has no bearing on our ability to deliver what the client wants. WE use this to our advantage. A) we can handle more clients B) having this many designers on staff allow our clients piece of mind that they're work order is getting the attention it desirves. C) deadlines are met. (sure it happens that they aren't once in awhile, But we still have a great track record)

As for these Young "keyboard maniacs", steps are being taken .. All boards and threads have been recorded. And we are now in talks to decide whether or not steps will be taken to validate the last few days...

I'd like to thank all our clients for having stuck with us in the last few days. I'd also like to thank our friends that have showed themselves to us during these proceedings. And Finally I'd like to thank Fletch, Amp and they're crownies For the great job they did in showing they're real colors ( I never knew Yellow came in so many shades)

No worries,
Cheers

Now that Hungryman is doing well for himself all these things come out, Could it all be jealousy? who knows. I have met Paul and he is a nice guy. I hope everything works out for him

I'm going to chip in here quickly.

I've talked to both HM and Amp on ICQ, and I like them both - Amp about the shit that goes with moving house and Paul hunting for ringtones one night.

One thing that bugs me throughout all of this is that Amp in his "About last night" thread said that HM didn't actually owe him any money, but in a thread from that night he said something like "$1000 in 60 minutes or I'm giving it away for free".

So, if he didn't owe him any money, why was he asking for it?

I really hope this is worked out with all parties involved and we can get back to work and looking forward to some kick-ass parties in Vegas!

Gotta run - Lunch with parental unit this afternoon :)

Edit: Because I'm a moron in a hurry :)

Freudian slip??
:winkwink:

BAH!

Teach me to type in a hurry - fuck I'm going to be late now!

Let me state, I talked to Hungryman on the phone and not on a computer.

Shut your fucking hole.

You obviously dont know shit to begin with.

This shti came up months ago, and Hungryman got all nervous and awkward.

Said he 'HAD TO CALL ME'

We talked then, I dont hide behind a computer.

In my posting last night I told Hungryman to call me.

Did you miss that?

Fuck off.

Vid,

Rather than involve even more parties unnecessarily in this, I've talked with Vegas and convinced him to buy a different design from some stock I have here. Wasn't tough to do, he's getting a much better site. Which means, you won't be hearing anything more from Vegas, and I still own that site.

Now, whatever you think you've got and whatever you think your lawyers have convinced you of, the fact remains that I did create that site, I do have the source to back it up, and you have no agreement with me. And in the end, that's all that really matters. Whatever kind of a spin you choose to put on it doesn't change any of those things. I hope your lawyer is smart enough to have advised you on this. I have no intention of wasting my time in legal proceedings with you or Hungry over that one shitty design. It's not worth the effort or expense. So I guess what I'm saying is, do what you want. You will anyway.

As far as the rest of these people's claims about you guys not paying your designers and whatnot, that's your own private mess and I have nothing to do with it. Only comment I'd make on that stuff is it sure seems like you don't much care.

Railz,

I was wrong in saying Hungry owed me any money. I've already said that. The spirit of that was meant to be that if Hungry would like to pay for the design he's using, then he would owe me some change for it.... not that he had previously owed me or anything. The circumstances that led to his use of the site had come to an end, and because of that, he was left sitting without an agreement to use that site. If he has one from me, I'd love to see it. So, yes... I worded poorly and created some unnecessary confusion about all of this, but the intent of my words were not as they seemed.

My real colors are keeping my friends from being ripped off by your company.

If you guys cant afford to pay the designers you employ, maybe you should rethink your position in this Industry.

You guys are obviously juggling money from account to account and have troubles paying the designers.

You guys look bad, no matter what I say.

To quote Hungryman

'Dag is one of our best toonists'

And I introduced him to you - he has no representation in this biz, he didnt even know what Paypal was until I showed him. He's a fucking Biology Major - doesnt evenk know shit about computers.

So IM at his house and he tells me, 'Man Hungryman keeps getting me to do toons man but he hasnt paid me for the last 4 jobs, and keeps telling me next monday next monday, the client hasnt paid me yet.'

Then around the same time I see a site my friend did the toons for being sold here on GFY.

You guys sold the site before my friend was even paid.

You clowns obviously need to figure out how to do business before you start offering services.

So I asked about the money - and Hungryman got all pissy and freaked out and wanted to call me.

Now this.

Again, my real colors are keeping my friends from being ripped off by fuckheads like you.

:smokin

I wasn't involved, but now that lawyer threat gets brought up.. what the fuck. Why not ? :)

The big point that everyone should be understanding and not missing here, is that when you buy something from someone else that doesn't own it in the first place.. you're getting fucked. No matter how much you pay for it, no matter how legitimate it looked.. you got fucked if the person didn't have the right to sell it in the first place.

Why does everyone keep skipping over this issue?

I am not only referring to hungryman but to many others that do the same thing! Vid... I understand that hungryman has sent me an icq message... but I would shush if I were you cos you keep jumping over this one in your public statements... which is making you look more and more guilty!

Can you at least apologise publicly for the fact that designers HAVE HAD TO WAIT long periods of time for the money they are owed?

Yes, I too would like to see more of Vid's professional side and less of his thumb-nosing arrogant side. Lay it on the line Vid..... there are some good hard-working designers here looking for a few bucks and an apology for you making them wait. Would it kill you to buck up and take it on the chin?