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04-22-2009, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

hehe i like the sound of all that

i wasnt sparring with you, i just do not consider myself in the same league as idiots who cant type their own payment info out correctly.

Spend a day as affiliate support (not repping for sales but actual support role) for a decent sized sponsor and you will see that there are all sorts of 'leagues' in this business. It has not much to do with who sends the most sales either. I have big hitters that simply don't have the best organizational skills and need to be prompted to update their information or who I have arrangements with to email or icq them reminders for things because they admittedly forget.

Then, there are the very clueless but that is also part of the job.
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04-22-2009, 11:45 AM

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But i have put fake ones in programs I didnt plan on having long relationship with...

Allow me to add, why?

because ive signed up for hundreds of programs over the yars and guess what, even though I dont push them, I may have signed up to see if you have good promo tools etc, and my mailbox ges filled with your "promo emails" re spam

so as a webmaster, I started dodging the programs tactics, if anything, affiliate reps are whats caused webmaters to start avoiding them.

how many times has someone tried to get ahold of me, even posting to me on gfy, and I get on icq with them and guess what,... its "hey how can i get you to put up more links" crap.

Sorry, but i avoid that shit like i do any spammers

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04-22-2009, 11:47 AM

They better provide up to date contact info, if there's a payment issue and they want paid...
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04-22-2009, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by Sarah_MaxCash

Spend a day as affiliate support (not repping for sales but actual support role) for a decent sized sponsor and you will see that there are all sorts of 'leagues' in this business. It has not much to do with who sends the most sales either. I have big hitters that simply don't have the best organizational skills and need to be prompted to update their information or who I have arrangements with to email or icq them reminders for things because they admittedly forget.

Then, there are the very clueless but that is also part of the job.

well i try to get all my payments going to epass or electronic so i dont worry about mailing addy too much

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04-22-2009, 11:49 AM

ive even had a program from GFY deny me as affiliate, then continue to spam me with "Hi Affiliate" emails lol I replied, "remove me i am not an affiliate" LOLz

and you wonder why we avoid you guys? lol

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04-22-2009, 11:51 AM

Very simple, 2 checkboxes when signing up

1. Receive important emergency related emails (downtime notification, payment problems, etc) - DEFAULT
2. Receive emails with updates on promo material, contests, etc - OPT IN

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04-22-2009, 11:53 AM

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

Allow me to add, why?

because ive signed up for hundreds of programs over the yars and guess what, even though I dont push them, I may have signed up to see if you have good promo tools etc, and my mailbox ges filled with your "promo emails" re spam

so as a webmaster, I started dodging the programs tactics, if anything, affiliate reps are whats caused webmaters to start avoiding them.

how many times has someone tried to get ahold of me, even posting to me on gfy, and I get on icq with them and guess what,... its "hey how can i get you to put up more links" crap.

Sorry, but i avoid that shit like i do any spammers

Well, it is probably part of their job to try to drum up more business. There are right ways and wrong ways to do that. I don't see an issue with taking a targeted approach and respectfully contacting somebody to find out how you can work more together. It is all in how it is done, how often and what research you have done before making contact.

With the emails, again..just filter.

If a sponsor is handing out content to be used doesn't is stand that they have the right to have valid contact details. If nothing else to deal with any abuse of those materials?

That isn't at all why I started this thread but I do think it is a valid point. If people want to use content provided by a sponsor I don't see why the sponsor shouldn't have the right to have proper contact information.
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04-22-2009, 11:54 AM

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

well i try to get all my payments going to epass or electronic so i dont worry about mailing addy too much

Paper checks still make up the vast majority of payments.
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04-22-2009, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by tical

Very simple, 2 checkboxes when signing up

1. Receive important emergency related emails (downtime notification, payment problems, etc) - DEFAULT
2. Receive emails with updates on promo material, contests, etc - OPT IN

I would have no problem at all with that sort of system. However, it still requires the affiliate to keep their email address up to date in the system to get the emergency mails too.
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04-22-2009, 12:03 PM

I love this thread! Anyone that has been a rep or ran their own program knows how frustrating it gets when you are trying to get in contact with a active affiliate with no working info.

You don't want to get spammed with fhgs or other updates to said program then unsubscribe to the mailer or if it's a ccbill based program.. Log into your ccbill main account go into tools> find the program in the list> click Edit> and select "Yes" "No" for "accept webmaster emails".. Do that and the only emails you should get is if there is actually a problem with your account but to just not list a active correct contact email when you are promoting a sponsor?

For the people that have had real jobs in their lives outside of this industry, did you give out phoney phone numbers to your employers too?

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04-22-2009, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by Sarah_MaxCash

If people want to use content provided by a sponsor I don't see why the sponsor shouldn't have the right to have proper contact information.

well no one is saying otherwise, I was just giving you feedback on why webmasters tend to avoid contact with affiliate reps.

Perhaps this gives you a look into why some do what they do.

Simply enclose said rule in your TOS and you can do a you like.

But really, I have to get back to some things im working on. I have honestly limited myself to no more than 30 mins/day on gfy.

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04-22-2009, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by Silent Bob Jedi

I love this thread! Anyone that has been a rep or ran their own program knows how frustrating it gets when you are trying to get in contact with a active affiliate with no working info.

You don't want to get spammed with fhgs or other updates to said program then unsubscribe to the mailer or if it's a ccbill based program.. Log into your ccbill main account go into tools> find the program in the list> click Edit> and select "Yes" "No" for "accept webmaster emails".. Do that and the only emails you should get is if there is actually a problem with your account but to just not list a active correct contact email when you are promoting a sponsor?

For the people that have had real jobs in their lives outside of this industry, did you give out phoney phone numbers to your employers too?

I knew others that work this side of the desk would understand what I am talking about

I also agree with your point. Do people give fake SS numbers too when they are required and that is okay?
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04-22-2009, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

well no one is saying otherwise, I was just giving you feedback on why webmasters tend to avoid contact with affiliate reps.

Perhaps this gives you a look into why some do what they do.

Simply enclose said rule in your TOS and you can do a you like.

But really, I have to get back to some things im working on. I have honestly limited myself to no more than 30 mins/day on gfy.

see you tomorrow and enjoy the rest of your day

Lol..you are always fun to play with on here ..I mean that as a compliment.

I do get what you are saying. After all, I have been an affiliate for a long time too. I get all the stuff you get.
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04-22-2009, 12:19 PM

I always use my gmail when I reg new accounts, BUT some retarded sponsors require me to use one of my domains. I'm pretty sure all emails to ****@mydomain.com bounce since I don't use or check them.

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04-22-2009, 12:20 PM

Originally posted by Sarah_MaxCash

Which, again, I get. However, if we saw something going wrong with your account and couldn't contact you wouldn't you wish we had?

You could make these messages accessible from their accounts when they sign in and even notify them when their email bounces. Problem solved at least for active accounts.

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