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tiger 04-16-2009 10:26 PM

It is doomed in it's current form. I seriously doubt they will keep it in its current form though. But they have been very slow to make changes so who knows.

mynameisjim 04-16-2009 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by PornMD (Post 15753616)
It'll be interesting to see if Hulu joins YouTube at the top soon. They're closing in on US rank at least, 35 and rapidly increasing to YouTube's 4...I predict especially with the heavy advertising they've started to do, they'll be top 10 in the US by the end of the year. It seems like they already have the money making down pat too.

Yeah, Hulu actually has more revenue than Youtube as well, at least according to analysts reports for 2008 so they know how to do something right.

So Google had all that brand recognition and traffic and Hulu jumped in, signed deals, and is making more than them. Just goes to prove what I've been saying that Google is not innovating nor is it making any smart moves. The whole data mining argument is just nonsense. If google could make more money, they would do it. They're not sitting back and losing money on purpose so they can execute some brilliant plan in the future. If that was the case they wouldn't have hired a specialist to cut costs like crazy these past several months just so they could turn a profit this quarter.

But they are several years late in making deals with movie and TV networks. They were the first big tube site and already they are playing catch up before they even turned a profit. Someone should be fired if you ask me.

PornMD 04-16-2009 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mynameisjim (Post 15753701)
Yeah, Hulu actually has more revenue than Youtube as well, at least according to analysts reports for 2008 so they know how to do something right.

So Google had all that brand recognition and traffic and Hulu jumped in, signed deals, and is making more than them. Just goes to prove what I've been saying that Google is not innovating nor is it making any smart moves. The whole data mining argument is just nonsense. If google could make more money, they would do it. They're not sitting back and losing money on purpose so they can execute some brilliant plan in the future. If that was the case they wouldn't have hired a specialist to cut costs like crazy these past several months just so they could turn a profit this quarter.

But they are several years late in making deals with movie and TV networks. They were the first big tube site and already they are playing catch up before they even turned a profit. Someone should be fired if you ask me.

Well they were riding on the wave of copyrighted content, and now record companies and media corps are making them take a lot of it off the moment it hits. I tried uploading a song only (i.e. no accompanying music video) to YT, a pretty unknown song, but it was apparently under copyright and the record company got it off YT immediately and I know for sure it wasn't ALWAYS like that. There's absolutely no reason for them to work with YT when YT owes nearly 100% of their clout to those companies...the only reason there's nearly the amount of people there to watch amateur videos there is because they were already there watching clips of shows, music videos, news clips, etc. So those people will slowly but surely migrate to Hulu as the word gets out more. The interesting thing is that Hulu even works with 3rd party sites if it has to - like I think every South Park video on Hulu actually redirects to the video on SouthParkStudios.com.

mmcfadden 04-16-2009 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 15751024)
its comical how everyone desperately wants to believe that somehow allowing free streaming video online is going to fail... or that google is even trying to profit with youtube.com directly.

it is comical... it is failing...

that's the point... sites evolve and youtube as ya know it will too...

PornMD 04-16-2009 11:10 PM

YouTube heard us talking: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/YouTub...&asset=&ccode=

ExLust 04-17-2009 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Owner (Post 15752775)

I giggle.
:1orglaugh

hjnet 04-17-2009 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Justin (Post 15750792)
that's true but most people would pay it or have their parents pay it, if you're the kid who's not paying $5/month for youtube you're not cool

Or go to another free tube, if you're the kid who's mommy is paying $5/month for youtube you're the village idiot :)

Paul Markham 04-17-2009 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mynameisjim (Post 15752915)
Didn't profit reports announced today show that Google's revenue declined. They showed an increase in profits because of cost cutting.

Everyone has so much faith in Google like they are secretly cooking up a master plan with all these ventures that don't make money. Truth is, they don't have a plan. They haven't innovated with ONE SINGLE PRODUCT. If they had a history of innovation, I would believe, but they don't.

Even with Youtube, they bought it, than sat around while hulu.com became the source for legit premium television and movie content. Now, several years later they just starting to announce (not do, announce) deals with big media company. Yep, Google sure is on the cutting edge...lol.

Luckily for Google they can afford it, but it is wonderful to watch all the people here who think giving a product away is the right thing to do. :1orglaugh

This says it all.

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Free is a great traffic generator, but its not really free when the traffic can't pay the bills.
Except it could of said "When the traffic doesn't pay the bills.

bbobby86 04-17-2009 03:38 AM

killing killing...

MindWaste 04-17-2009 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by tranza (Post 15750639)
From the Slashdot site:

The average visitor to YouTube is costing Google between one and two dollars, according to new research that shows Google losing up to $1.65 million per day on the video site. More than two years after Google acquired YouTube, income from premium offers and other revenue generators don't offset YouTube's expenses of content acquisition, bandwidth, and storage. YouTube is expected to serve 75 billion video streams to 375 million unique visitors in 2009, costing Google up to $2,064,054 a day, or $753 million annualized. Revenue projections for YouTube fall between $90 million and $240 million."

Source: http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?.../04/14/1630239

I wonder when we are going to start seeing more and more Tube sites closing simply because they are not profitable. If Google can't make this business model profitable, nobody can.

:2 cents:

if they updated thier equipment and bandwidth becomes speedier then the numbers whould fall..

Meaning thier super duper hard drives could be upgraded and the bandwidth loosened.. makeing the nesisary need of bandwidth and storage way easier and im sure they will do this. or will when they cant function any more.

d-null 04-17-2009 03:45 AM

over 50 thousand dollars an hour

Blazed 04-17-2009 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by tranza (Post 15750639)

I wonder when we are going to start seeing more and more Tube sites closing simply because they are not profitable. If Google can't make this business model profitable, nobody can.

:2 cents:

Well that is obviously not true is it since if you had ran tubes you would know how easy it is to turn a profit. Youtube cant because they are the extreme, and they cant plaster ads all over the place. The main adult sites dropping right now are the tgp's which everybody seems to be trying to sell for pennies, the tubes are thriving.

bmchunu 04-17-2009 04:10 AM

some times its not about short term profits! What would be more interesting to know is whether the year-on-year profits(losses) are declining (even percentage wise).

I still back google and youtube ... they are at the front by a long way .. and should stay there for a couple of years.


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