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  • MoreMagic
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    • Feb 2006
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    #51
    How is that Slicky?

    Originally posted by stickyfingerz
    Umm his paragraph was correct, your's was not. How is his English as horrible as yours?

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    • Barefootsies
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      • Feb 2005
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      #52
      Originally posted by Sly
      LOL. Those comments are hysterical.
      Indeed.

      Until the trolling, no idea who the guy was. Type name in Google, and tada.

      Madness.
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      • beemk
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        #53
        Originally posted by Barefootsies
        Talking out of your ass as usual.

        Another glass house



        http://voices.washingtonpost.com/sec...rn_spam_1.html
        an article that was posted on gfy years ago that someone posted an anonymous comment about me being a "spammer" isn't anything close to proof.

        you on the other hand are trying to sell content packages of stuff that you do not own the rights to and didn't even purchase. selling content that you stole from other sites over the years is theft and it is illegal.

        yes there are grey area loopholes that allows you to post celeb content on websites, im sure that mrskin has a legal team that lets them do it. you on the other hand are selling packages of content to webmasters. so that makes you a thief.
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        • candyflip
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          #54
          Originally posted by stickyfingerz
          I think just because he has a Red nick. Nothing more.
          He specifically had to highlight it. To me that means he thinks we should put some sort of extra points on the fact that someone with a red name had a conversation discussing this topic.

          I'm just curious why he felt the need to highlight someone's name and bring them into this. Regardless of my history with said person.

          Spend you some brain.
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          • Si
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            • Feb 2008
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            #55
            Who has any rights over celeb content other than the actual person who is photographed and/or recorded?

            How do you claim to "produce" celeb content MoreMagic?

            DO You go round and film sex-tapes?
            DO You go round and photograph celebs?
            DO You create hollywood stars?



            WTF! Thats the most fucked up claim I have ever heard In my life.

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            • MoreMagic
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              #56
              Thank you for trying again.



              Originally posted by beemk
              an article that was posted on gfy years ago that someone posted an anonymous comment about me being a "spammer" isn't anything close to proof.

              you on the other hand are trying to sell content packages of stuff that you do not own the rights to and didn't even purchase. selling content that you stole from other sites over the years is theft and it is illegal.

              yes there are grey area loopholes that allows you to post celeb content on websites, im sure that mrskin has a legal team that lets them do it. you on the other hand are selling packages of content to webmasters. so that makes you a thief.

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              • Sly
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                • Sep 2004
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                #57
                Originally posted by candyflip
                He specifically had to highlight it. To me that means he thinks we should put some sort of extra points on the fact that someone with a red name had a conversation discussing this topic.

                I'm just curious why he felt the need to highlight someone's name and bring them into this. Regardless of my history with said person.
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                • stickyfingerz
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by candyflip
                  He specifically had to highlight it. To me that means he thinks we should put some sort of extra points on the fact that someone with a red name had a conversation discussing this topic.

                  I'm just curious why he felt the need to highlight someone's name and bring them into this. Regardless of my history with said person.
                  He does that all the time, its nothing special to Fletch.

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                  • stickyfingerz
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by mobilefun1987
                    Who has any rights over celeb content other than the actual person who is photographed and/or recorded?

                    How do you claim to "produce" celeb content MoreMagic?

                    DO You go round and film sex-tapes?
                    DO You go round and photograph celebs?
                    DO You create hollywood stars?



                    WTF! Thats the most fucked up claim I have ever heard In my life.
                    he once took a picture of Screech from Saved by the bell in a speedo, and posted it on his blog...

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                    • Si
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                      he once took a picture of Screech from Saved by the bell in a speedo, and posted it on his blog...

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                      • Barefootsies
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                        #61
                        Originally posted by candyflip
                        He specifically had to highlight it. To me that means he thinks we should put some sort of extra points on the fact that someone with a red name had a conversation discussing this topic.

                        I'm just curious why he felt the need to highlight someone's name and bring them into this. Regardless of my history with said person.
                        Wrong.

                        You must not pay attention. I do it all the time, including non-drama filled threads.

                        I do certain things for different names, just as I use certain slang, play on words, and how I post. It has nothing to do with what you are inferring.

                        Zing cleared it up to the point for you. You can either accept that, or not.
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                        • MoreMagic
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                          #62
                          Also you seem not to know how it works, thx for playing. And just to answer anyway , 80% of our photo's are taken in studio on appointment with the celed.

                          Originally posted by mobilefun1987
                          Who has any rights over celeb content other than the actual person who is photographed and/or recorded?

                          How do you claim to "produce" celeb content MoreMagic?

                          DO You go round and film sex-tapes?
                          DO You go round and photograph celebs?
                          DO You create hollywood stars?



                          WTF! Thats the most fucked up claim I have ever heard In my life.

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                          • Barefootsies
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                            #63
                            Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                            He does that all the time, its nothing special to Fletch.
                            Exactly.

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                            • Barefootsies
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                              #64
                              Originally posted by MoreMagic
                              Also you seem not to know how it works, thx for playing. And just to answer anyway , 80% of our photo's are taken in studio on appointment with the celed.
                              There are a couple of dozen BRO programs waiting for all your DMCA's then.

                              Get to work.
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                              • MoreMagic
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                                #65
                                and even then I would have the copyright and not Screech.

                                Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                he once took a picture of Screech from Saved by the bell in a speedo, and posted it on his blog...

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                                • MoreMagic
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                                  #66
                                  Why dont you respond on the fact you sell a HD, keep on the subject you are not to compare with them. lol you WISH

                                  Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                  There are a couple of dozen BRO programs waiting for all your DMCA's then.

                                  Get to work.

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                                  • stickyfingerz
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                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by MoreMagic
                                    and even then I would have the copyright and not Screech.
                                    I am well aware how photo copyright works. Thx..

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                                    • Barefootsies
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                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by MoreMagic
                                      and even then I would have the copyright and not Screech.
                                      No. Actually those types of things are spelled out in model releases and contracts.

                                      It does not always default to the photographer. Sorry toots.
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                                      • MoreMagic
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                                        #69
                                        Slicky you almost never understand anything, why would you do now?

                                        Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                        I am well aware how photo copyright works. Thx..

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                                        • MoreMagic
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                                          #70
                                          Yes sweety moment it is made in public I have the rights period. In studio its on agreement. But still I would have the copyright (or it most be explicit mentioned else) , publication right would be a other issue.

                                          Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                          No. Actually those types of things are spelled out in model releases and contracts.

                                          It does not always default to the photographer. Sorry toots.
                                          Last edited by MoreMagic; 04-15-2009, 02:00 PM.

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                                          • stickyfingerz
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                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by MoreMagic
                                            Slicky you almost never understand anything, why would you do now?
                                            What country are you from anyways? lol I actually am very well versed in 2257 and how that works, plus copyright. If Screech were in public and you took a pic, yes you as the photographer would hold the copyright, however you would be in risk of a civil suit which they may or may not win, however it would tie up your time and money in a court case. In the studio as BF said above the model release may relinquish your copyright hold to the model if the contract so deems it that way.

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                                            • devine
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                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by mobilefun1987
                                              Who has any rights over celeb content other than the actual person who is photographed and/or recorded?

                                              How do you claim to "produce" celeb content MoreMagic?

                                              DO You go round and film sex-tapes?
                                              DO You go round and photograph celebs?
                                              DO You create hollywood stars?



                                              WTF! Thats the most fucked up claim I have ever heard In my life.
                                              your post fails at so many levels it's not even funny

                                              I have no idea if MoreMagic really shoots celebs, but if so, your post is an absolute and massive display of ignorance

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                                              • Barefootsies
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                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by MoreMagic
                                                Why dont you respond on the fact you sell a HD, keep on the subject you are not to compare with them. lol you WISH
                                                Ah ha!. Thanks for clearing it up. Just as I thought.,

                                                So you are not actually against copyright theft on the whole, or in the industry, online, or any of the other shit you are ranting about on the collective in numerous threads. It is actually personal.

                                                Pretty much what I though.
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                                                • BV
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                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by mobilefun1987
                                                  Who has any rights over celeb content other than the actual person who is photographed and/or recorded?

                                                  How do you claim to "produce" celeb content MoreMagic?

                                                  DO You go round and film sex-tapes?
                                                  DO You go round and photograph celebs?
                                                  DO You create hollywood stars?



                                                  WTF! Thats the most fucked up claim I have ever heard In my life.
                                                  You are way wrong here.
                                                  In most celeb pics the person being photographed does not own the picture, the photographer does. ie: The paparazzi photographer.

                                                  So technically whoever is using this content are steeling the Paparazzis' pics and are giving them an open invitation to sue you if they think you have any money.

                                                  Furthermore you could also be sued by the celebs themselves in some cases depending on how you use or misuse the pics, where they were taken, etc etc etc....

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                                                  • Si
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                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by MoreMagic
                                                    Also you seem not to know how it works, thx for playing. And just to answer anyway , 80% of our photo's are taken in studio on appointment with the celed.
                                                    Oh ok! so you produce Celed content.

                                                    I though we was discussing Celeb content????

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                                                    • MoreMagic
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                                                      #76
                                                      I must say I don't shoot, my company does.

                                                      Originally posted by devine
                                                      your post fails at so many levels it's not even funny

                                                      I have no idea if MoreMagic really shoots celebs, but if so, your post is an absolute and massive display of ignorance

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                                                      • Barefootsies
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                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                        What country are you from anyways? lol I actually am very well versed in 2257 and how that works, plus copyright. If Screech were in public and you took a pic, yes you as the photographer would hold the copyright, however you would be in risk of a civil suit which they may or may not win, however it would tie up your time and money in a court case. In the studio as BF said above the model release may relinquish your copyright hold to the model if the contract so deems it that way.
                                                        Which is correct.

                                                        Celebrities can own the pictures outright, just as a studio, media company, or publication can, and strip photographer's rights depending on the signed, agreed to, release, and contract. I have seen them myself, so I know they exist where photographer does the work, and holds no copyright.
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                                                        • MoreMagic
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                                                          #78
                                                          Again no answer on the HD issue. Keep avoiding it.

                                                          Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                          Ah ha!. Thanks for clearing it up. Just as I thought.,

                                                          So you are not actually against copyright theft on the whole, or in the industry, online, or any of the other shit you are ranting about on the collective in numerous threads. It is actually personal.

                                                          Pretty much what I though.

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                                                          • Barefootsies
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                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by BV
                                                            You are way wrong here.
                                                            In most celeb pics the person being photographed does not own the picture, the photographer does. ie: The paparazzi photographer.

                                                            So technically whoever is using this content are steeling the Paparazzis' pics and are giving them an open invitation to sue you if they think you have any money.

                                                            Furthermore you could also be sued by the celebs themselves in some cases depending on how you use or misuse the pics, where they were taken, etc etc etc....
                                                            But that assumes ALL pictures are paps. There are many other types of celebrity pictures out there. From magazine or publications, box covered, publicity shots and on.. and on.

                                                            Each can be more or less complicated. But you are correct in regards to paps.
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                                                            • Barefootsies
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                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by MoreMagic
                                                              Keep avoiding it.
                                                              The only person avoiding the issue is you.

                                                              You can twist it however you like, the fact remains. You do not hold the copyright. You make this thread. You are not against copyright on the whole. Dismissing repeated examples of people you claim you 'could' DMCA if you wanted to (i.e. BRO celeb pay sites), but don't. So you are personal trolling.

                                                              Which is exactly what I thought from the get go.
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                                                              • Si
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                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                                No. Actually those types of things are spelled out in model releases and contracts.

                                                                It does not always default to the photographer. Sorry toots.
                                                                Excactly my Point.

                                                                If I took a photo of anyone (not just a celeb) and wanted to sell it on a place like iStockphoto.com

                                                                I would need a model release for it to be allowed.

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                                                                • Barefootsies
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                                                                  #82
                                                                  MoreMagic can keep bumping this all he likes. Thanks for the exposure.

                                                                  The facts remain.

                                                                  As previously pointed out a half dozen times now, there are plenty of easy targets in the industry alone, or online as a whole. Including all major programs.

                                                                  So.. either their lawyers, and mine know a thing or two in regards running celebrity sites, DMCA, and laws surrounding it. Or we are all just completely reckless putting business at risk.

                                                                  With the exception of XPAYS. They own/license/bought some of the highest profile celebrity tapes and content, and it is well publicized.
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                                                                  • MoreMagic
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                                                                    #83
                                                                    Even in publication the right are still in most cases with the photographer. Even when photo is ordered by the magazine. But in all exceptions are possible.

                                                                    But all what we say here i still don't see that you have the rights to sell our content on a HD.


                                                                    Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                                    But that assumes ALL pictures are paps. There are many other types of celebrity pictures out there. From magazine or publications, box covered, publicity shots and on.. and on.

                                                                    Each can be more or less complicated. But you are correct in regards to paps.

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                                                                    • WarChild
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                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by MoreMagic
                                                                      It seems that your English is just as horrible as my.

                                                                      I am copyright holder of Celeb content. I do enforce when needed a DMCA.

                                                                      So do you know what Little Child
                                                                      So your complaint then is he is selling content that you own? You have proof of this?
                                                                      .

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                                                                      • MoreMagic
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                                                                        #85
                                                                        No way. Forget it.

                                                                        Originally posted by mobilefun1987
                                                                        Excactly my Point.

                                                                        If I took a photo of anyone (not just a celeb) and wanted to sell it on a place like iStockphoto.com

                                                                        I would need a model release for it to be allowed.

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                                                                        • Barefootsies
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                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by mobilefun1987
                                                                          Excactly my Point.

                                                                          If I took a photo of anyone (not just a celeb) and wanted to sell it on a place like iStockphoto.com

                                                                          I would need a model release for it to be allowed.
                                                                          If I am following you correctly, you are referring to the BV paps example where they are shooting candid pictures and selling off the publications without model releases (to be 100% legal)??
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                                                                          • Barefootsies
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                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by MoreMagic
                                                                            But all what we say here i still don't see that you have the rights to sell our content on a HD.

                                                                            Originally posted by WarChild
                                                                            So your complaint then is he is selling content that you own? You have proof of this?
                                                                            Because he is claiming I do, and if he doesn't have PROOF when we know what comes next,

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                                                                            Last edited by Barefootsies; 04-15-2009, 02:18 PM.
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                                                                            • MoreMagic
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                                                                              #88
                                                                              Look there is the problem, and why DMCA is not vallid in his case. DMCA is good for online content because we as producer can verify if people us our content. But now he sales it in a closed system as being a HD or closed ftp account. I have no way a possibility to verify what he sales and that si exact also why this is by law just stealing, and is DMCA not at order here.

                                                                              Originally posted by WarChild
                                                                              So your complaint then is he is selling content that you own? You have proof of this?

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                                                                              • stickyfingerz
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                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                                                If I am following you correctly, you are referring to the BV paps example where they are shooting candid pictures and selling off the publications without model releases (to be 100% legal)??
                                                                                Pap pics "in a public area" are technically legal, but subject to suit by the person being photographed under invasion of privacy. If anyone does some research they will find that there ARE cases that have been won over this by the celeb, however very few pursue it. Normally the ones that win these cases are ones that are photographed unknowingly while nude, or are in a technically private area. I suppose trespassing laws would fall under a lot of those wins.

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                                                                                • BV
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                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                                                  But that assumes ALL pictures are paps. There are many other types of celebrity pictures out there. From magazine or publications, box covered, publicity shots and on.. and on.

                                                                                  Each can be more or less complicated. But you are correct in regards to paps.
                                                                                  That's why I said "in most celeb pics"

                                                                                  The other formats you mention someone owns the rights to those also. Whether it be on a box or in a magazine publication.

                                                                                  What gives you the right to sell it?

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                                                                                  • MoreMagic
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                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Candid in public location as outside photography can be publicized without any papers, candid in a private environment is illegal and can't.

                                                                                    Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                                                    If I am following you correctly, you are referring to the BV paps example where they are shooting candid pictures and selling off the publications without model releases (to be 100% legal)??

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                                                                                    • Barefootsies
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                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by MoreMagic
                                                                                      Look there is the problem, and why DMCA is not vallid in his case. DMCA is good for online content because we as producer can verify if people us our content. But now he sales it in a closed system as being a HD or closed ftp account. I have no way a possibility to verify what he sales and that si exact also why this is by law just stealing, and is DMCA not at order here.
                                                                                      Nice try chief.

                                                                                      You said you could DMCA all this industry's celebrity sites, but you do not do that either. Nor are you in all their monthly promo threads going after them, claiming your content is being stolen, or used without permisson, etc.. Same for blogs and sites sold over in the B&S section.

                                                                                      So once again, it is not the actual copyright or DMCA that is the issue. That makes it personal.
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                                                                                      • MoreMagic
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                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Wow you do know something, good for you.

                                                                                        Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                                        Pap pics "in a public area" are technically legal, but subject to suit by the person being photographed under invasion of privacy. If anyone does some research they will find that there ARE cases that have been won over this by the celeb, however very few pursue it. Normally the ones that win these cases are ones that are photographed unknowingly while nude, or are in a technically private area. I suppose trespassing laws would fall under a lot of those wins.

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                                                                                        • Barefootsies
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                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Originally posted by BV
                                                                                          That's why I said "in most celeb pics"

                                                                                          The other formats you mention someone owns the rights to those also. Whether it be on a box or in a magazine publication.
                                                                                          I was trying to clarify what he was asking in regards to the rules/rights/contract/releases for different types of pictures.
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                                                                                          • BV
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                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by MoreMagic
                                                                                            Candid in public location as outside photography can be publicized without any papers,.

                                                                                            Wrong, not for everyone! Only the person who took the picture, (unless he or she sells or licenses their rights)

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                                                                                            • MoreMagic
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                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Your pics are stolen, you don't own the copyright. Nothing to be afraid about for a ban.

                                                                                              Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                                                              Because he is claiming I do, and if he doesn't have PROOF when we know what comes next,

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                                                                                              • stickyfingerz
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                                                                                                • Oct 2005
                                                                                                • 24984

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by MoreMagic
                                                                                                Wow you do know something, good for you.
                                                                                                Not to sound cocky, but I know a lot more than you suspect I guarantee you that.

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                                                                                                • MoreMagic
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Feb 2006
                                                                                                  • 2851

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Good for you slicky

                                                                                                  Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                                                  Not to sound cocky, but I know a lot more than you suspect I guarantee you that.

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                                                                                                  • MoreMagic
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Feb 2006
                                                                                                    • 2851

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    sure no discussion about that, thought we already where passed that one.
                                                                                                    Originally posted by BV
                                                                                                    Wrong, not for everyone! Only the person who took the picture, (unless he or she sells or licenses their rights)

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                                                                                                    • Barefootsies
                                                                                                      Choice is an Illusion
                                                                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                                                                      • 42635

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      100 thread backfires

                                                                                                      Originally posted by MoreMagic
                                                                                                      Your pics are stolen, you don't own the copyright. Nothing to be afraid about for a ban.
                                                                                                      You're right. In regards to your upcoming ban.

                                                                                                      1. You claim I am selling your content.
                                                                                                      2. You have no proof of claim.
                                                                                                      3. That means ban per rules.

                                                                                                      Thanks for playing sweety.
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