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Picture of a building being BLOWN UP.
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Building collapse. Concrete not turned into dust.
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Independence Day movie (1996)
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I know the truth, but if I make such truth publicly available for you to analyze further, I will not live that much longer. None of the posts are right, or anywhere near right by a 1000 words. Most of you are hovering so far away from the truth, it's not even funny, and the worst part is, you are arguing facts mostly wrong.
I might post SOME stuff for you to piece together after I get my work done here, however, I will give you maybe 2% of the truth, and you have to sit there and think about the other 98%.
See ya in a bit. (maybe)
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Anywhere the numbers 9 and 11 appear at any time is more proof Pornostar69 is right. It only makes sense that you would plan an uber secret conspiracy for several decades, keep everyone involved absolutely silent but then tease the puplic with hints in pop culture for no benefit to you or your plan. I'm starting to think he has to be a fake nick just trolling. Can anybody be that stupid otherwise?.Comment
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The Peacemaker (1997)
location: New York
about: surprise surprise terrorism
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This is just too much
Are you for real? You know there are countries where they lock people like you up and force feed them medicines for the rest of their life?
Are you just reaaaaaally fucking stupid or do you have some mental illness. It has to be one of the 2.Comment
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Put aside if you believe in a controlled demolition, goverment involvment or any of that just for one second. Does ANYONE else other than Pornostar69 believe that anytime the numbers 9 and 11 appear together on film it was done on purpose as some sort of clue for Scooby Doo to follow and figure out the 9/11 conspiracy?
Nobody else is that far off base, right?.Comment
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Matrix (1999)
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The way the top of the building was shape charged is clear in this photo and in the video.
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Actually it's not clear at all there was any shape charge. Actually, there were no explosives of any sort.
It really makes sense to you that somehow the World Trade Towers were wired for demoilition, in complete secrecy THEN had planes flown in to them, which didn't disrupt any of the demolitions what so ever, so the goverment could bring the buildings down? You actually think that makes sense?.Comment
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I don't believe it was the US Goverment that brought down the towers. Like you I have no idea who or what did. I'm just saying I don't believe that planes alone brought them down. Maybe I could if building 7 didn't fall too but that building didn't have any reason to come down on it's own that day.Comment
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Not really to be honest. The problem is, that with enough searching you can probably find multiple examples of any combination of small numbers.
For instance, if it had have been October 4th, I'm sure we'd be watching pornostar69 posting every occurence he can find of 4 and 10. It's just stupid, really.
Let me ask you this and see if you have a serious answer. You have to agree that if there was such a conspiracy, it's been pretty damned secretive. Nobody to date has come forward and said "yeah I participated in" or "yeah I had knowledge of". Not one person. So if that's the case, that measures were taken to keep things secret, why do you think the conspirators would make references to the plan in popular culture before it was pulled off? What could possibly be gained? What is the logic for doing this?.Comment
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That's the thing that troubles me most.. Nobody has come forward.. Nobody has.. Even the guy the US Government pointed the finger at Bin Laden. A sworn enemy of the US has said a number of times that he had nothing to do with it. No suicide tapes. No North Korea, No Iraq, No Iran, nobody.. If it really was someone outside the US that really hated the US why wouldn't they be taking credit for it. It doesn't make sense to me at all.Comment
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lol that tape is laughable.. In this day and age and the video looks like it was filmed in the 1970's. Anyway I'll post the news story from a "creditable" news source.
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/1...ial/index.htmlComment
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http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2004/1...age041029.html
Bin Laden claims responsibility for 9/11
Last Updated: Friday, October 29, 2004 | 10:21 PM ET
CBC News
Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden appeared in a new message aired on an Arabic TV station Friday night, for the first time claiming direct responsibility for the 2001 attacks against the United States.Comment
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-I-did-it.html
Bin Laden: Yes, I did it
By David Bamber
Last Updated: 12:41AM GMT 11 Nov 2001
OSAMA BIN LADEN has for the first time admitted that his al-Qa'eda group carried out the attacks on the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon, the Telegraph can reveal.
In a previously undisclosed video which has been circulating for 14 days among his supporters, he confesses that "history should be a witness that we are terrorists. Yes, we kill their innocents"Comment
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Why say some people when you can yourself make the judgement...
Whether Ben laden admitted to it or not is I think irrelevant.. doesn't prove anything either way.... But releasing an obvious fake confession video trying to convince the population that he did do it doesn't smell too good...Comment
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wow, who knew the Danes were such a gulible race
I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.Comment
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No need to feel for me, I'm doing just fine.
All his other video were perfectly fine and could be heard clearly. The video they say they found left behind in an old hideout was blurry and you could barley hear him.
A man with billions of dollars and funded the 911 attacks from his hide out cant even afford to buy a decent camcorder.
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This would be a good time to remember the people that died that day, the families and friend that lost their loved ones and the traumatised survivors & witnesses and show some respect to all the people at public services like the firemen/police/etc. trying to help out that day with their own lives at stake to help others. Those are the brave and they have my full respect.
These people faced the actual facts and not any discussion theories.Comment
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bin laden was fighting the soviets and was instrumental in recruiting arabs to go to afghanistan and fight against the soviets. the USA, Britain, Saudi Arabia and many other countries simply funded him and others and trained them and gave them weapons. its not like he woke up everyday saying the pledge of allegiance to the US flag.Comment
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PornoStar69, you convinced me! I believe the movie industry was hinting at the attacks for the last 20 years through secret messages in big movies. I totally believe you. Now i'm on your side please explain me what the point of it is. Why did they do it? Please tell me man so i can spread the message on other forums.Comment
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Why can't you idiots answer some simple questions? You scream and yell about this stuff the whole time calling it evidence but when asked you can't explain it. Martin, the uber idiot here, you maybe?Comment
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kinda silly questions... didn't care to waste my time on them, but I have a few minutes now so here we go...
buildings always fall down straight? really? Go learn a bit more about demolition companies and the work they do... There are actually techniques to make a building fall in their footprint... It doesn't just automatically happen..I keep asking and nobody responds. You idiots keep crying about how the tower fell down straight which according to you means it was because of explosives. So then please answer me how else would've it have fallen down if it wasn't bombed? What was it supposed to do then?
And also no answer why the debris falls faster than the building. So the debris is actually falling faster than free fall speed?
Give me some answers so i can understand you great minds.
I think people are saying "near free fall speed" not "free fall speed" ...
Hope I cleared things up for you...Last edited by xxxdesign-net; 04-15-2009, 01:09 PM.Comment
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So tell me how were the towers supposed to fall down. Don't give me this you should know that blah blah. Just tell me how they were supposed to fall instead.
And how fast were they supposed to collapse instead of near free fall speed. Got any numbers for me? Once again no "everybody knows" crap etc assuming were are all experts like you. Just some numbers please. I have no clue how fast buildings are supposed to fall down and you seem to know all about it.Comment
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the complete collapse of WTC 7 is the evidence! this would not and could not happen.
this is where they fucked up. people obviously believe WTC 1 & 2 could collapse from impact and fire, but there is no reason why 7 would collapse like a perfectly executed demo job.
why did the fire department tell the owner of the building that there was too much damage and they had to "pull" the building. he admitted to this so it's a fact.
it takes weeks of carefull planning by a team of professionals to "pull" a building, not just a few hours during total chaos.
this is the smoking gun and that's why in the 500+ page "9/11 commision report" there's not one line dedicated to it's collapse. there's no logical explanation for it.Comment
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Why do you keep assuming things? I have never claimed that the building falling in its footprint was a smoking gun... I was just responding to your questions which insinuated that there's no other way a building could fall... I find curious tho that two 100 storey buildings and one 50 storey building fell into their own footprint but I am no expert, I am aware of that... I'll add tho that many experts find it impossible...
As far the speed the building should have fell... I think computer generated models were made to test that... Look it up, I wont take your hand and do all the work for you... Look at both the nist models as well as the models made by other experts... If I remember correctly, it was around 22 sec... but look it up and decide for yourself...Last edited by xxxdesign-net; 04-15-2009, 01:39 PM.Comment
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You're spinning half truths around a single word "pull". No fire department has ever admited to "pulling the building" in any fashion. You're just seeing what you want to see, no what's true. Your facts are just made up shit.
The most important operational decision to be made that afternoon was the collapse (Of the WTC towers) had damaged 7 World Trade Center, which is about a 50 story building, at Vesey between West Broadway and Washington Street. It had very heavy fire on many floors and I ordered the evacuation of an area sufficient around to protect our members, so we had to give up some rescue operations that were going on at the time and back the people away far enough so that if 7 World Trade did collapse, we [wouldn't] lose any more people. We continued to operate on what we could from that distance and approximately an hour and a half after that order was [given], at 5:30 in the afternoon, World Trade Center collapsed completely" - Daniel Nigro, Chief of DepartmentAnd finally, no it was not an undamaged building with small fires:"Early on, there was concern that 7 World Trade Center might have been both impacted by the collapsing tower and had several fires in it and there was a concern that it might collapse. So we instructed that a collapse area -- (Q. A collapse zone?) -- Yeah -- be set up and maintained so that when the expected collapse of 7 happened, we wouldn't have people working in it. There was considerable discussion with Con Ed regarding the substation in that building and the feeders and the oil coolants and so on. And their concern was of the type of fire we might have when it collapsed." - Chief Cruthers
"A little north of Vesey I said, we?ll go down, let?s see what?s going on. A couple of the other officers and I were going to see what was going on. We were told to go to Greenwich and Vesey and see what?s going on. So we go there and on the north and east side of 7 it didn?t look like there was any damage at all, but then you looked on the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors. Debris was falling down on the building and it didn?t look good..Comment
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Fuck I should listen to myself more. Here I am trying to convince an idiot with logic and reason. What a waste of time..Comment
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As for George Bush seniors new world order speech before congress, It was certainly NWO rhetoric and it was certainly a decent into tyranny, but your source got the year wrong it was 1990. Check it out
Perfectly reasonable explanation for the others. Before the twin towers fell the numbers 911 already had a scary connotation.
Hollywood knows of the subliminal impact of 911 (emergency phone call connotation)
And in some cases put it in the movies to boost suspense.
The terrorist groups knew that 911 (emergency phone call connotation) would strike fear so the date was set.Comment
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I make shit up? Exemples? Btw, I said "many" not "most" .... and I was referring to those Architects & Engineers at http://www.ae911truth.org/Comment
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so what do you think Silverstein meant when he said go ahead and "pull" the building? did he mean tow it to another part of the city?
as a property developer, do you think he doesn't know what "pulling" a building means?
that one word probably wouldn't have meant much if the building wasn't "pulled" in perfect demo fashion.
there wasn't that much damage to the exterior of the building. certainly not enough to bring the entire building down. if part of it collapsed it would be believable but not the entire building...no way! it wasn't brought down by fire either. show me one other building that collapsed from fire. the entire building wasn't completely engulfed in flames, only a few offices on a few floors were on fire.Comment
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