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  • Stephanie Hastert
    So Fucking Banned
    • Oct 2008
    • 77

    #31
    Originally posted by quantum-x
    Wait.. that's your proof? I was taking you seriously up until now.
    Yes, that is my proof!
    Not to mention that image was probably altered / created well before you created your website!
    I was never taking you seriously because I know exactly what your website content consists of. The thing is you know that I know!

    Originally posted by quantum-x
    There's no convincing you. I know we pay our girls thousands of dollars a week for content, and I'm confident that come any inspection, we'd pass with flying colours, as we have under all previous scrutiny.

    Seriously, latch onto one of the umpteen other sites out there that actually don't have content.
    No there is no convincing me!
    thousands of dollars a week for content LMAO!
    Try surfing the internet for content.. oh wait, you already do!

    I suggested for you to not to continue but your inflated ego kept you coming back for more.
    Your persistence added a nice blemish to your so-called reputation as well as your website!

    Originally posted by quantum-x
    PS: Hey spelling nazi: I'm not American, 'realised' is spelled with an 's' ;)
    I'm out, have a nice night.
    I realized that. Most Americans would have taken my indirect suggestion not to continue but that male ego is astonishing.

    Hope you have a great evening too.

    Sincerely
    Stephanie Hastert
    Last edited by Stephanie Hastert; 04-12-2009, 04:05 PM.

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    • Deej
      I make pixels work
      • Jun 2005
      • 24386

      #32
      Originally posted by Stephanie Hastert
      Oh really... First of all I do not know you from adam so how can you possibly know what I have researched, read, investigated and or had conversations with?



      I have done the very same thing!
      Do you actually think I would create such a touchy topic on one of the most, if not thee most popular webmaster message board in the internet without doing my homework ?



      So please, do not tell me what I need to be or should be doing.

      Please answer my question or show me some proof to support the claims
      that it is legal to make a profit off of non consenting content.



      You mean to tell me you've chatted with all these people and processors concerning this very topic, PLUS you 'know way more than me' all without knowing of one illegal US gf website ?
      Thought you knew all about it ?

      Yes I know of quite-a-few but it seems nobody is answering my question. All I see is a lot of dancing around the original topic question. Respond to my question without thinking you know it all (which runs ramped on this board) and I will respond to yours.

      Sincerely
      Stephanie Hastert
      your agruments here are all harmlessly hypocritical... you are asking me not to assume like you assumed about me.

      anyway... no biggie... whoever knows how much ever more dosnt matter...

      keep on with your crusade, because i dont believe in content theft either...

      Deej's Designs n' What Not
      Hit me up for Design, CSS & Photo Retouching


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      • TheDoc
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Jul 2001
        • 13827

        #33
        Originally posted by Stephanie Hastert
        Correction sweetie, I know exactly how this area of the industry works.
        It appears you think of yourself as being very informed. As a example, please explain to me how a webmaster can legally use my personal image (taken in my home) on his or her website and make a profit off of it without my consent ?
        You stated '10 different solutions'.. please tell me just one using my example.
        Sweetie? That's a blessing for me on gfy... as for being informed.. Rather than ragging your ass, I will lend a hand..

        You are crossing a problem called copyright with something unrelated called 2257.

        2257 is about record keeping, however I don't need the record in my hands. Something you may want to look deeper into.

        2257 has nothing to do with the rights of ownership, a different law covers that, called the Copyright Act.

        The Copyright Act doesn't make it legal for people to steal and profit from you, but it sure as hell doesn't protect you either.
        ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
        It's all disambiguation

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        • quantum-x
          Confirmed User
          • Feb 2002
          • 6863

          #34
          Originally posted by Stephanie Hastert
          Yes, that is my proof!
          Not to mention that image was probably altered / created well before you created your website!
          I was never taking you seriously because I know exactly what your website content consists of. The thing is you know that I know!



          No there is no convincing me!
          thousands of dollars a week for content LMAO!
          Try surfing the internet for content.. oh wait, you already do!

          I suggested for you to not to continue but your inflated ego kept you coming back for more.
          Your persistence added a nice blemish to your so-called reputation as well as your website!



          I realized that. Most Americans would have taken my indirect suggestion not to continue but that male ego is astonishing.

          Hope you have a great evening too.

          Sincerely
          Stephanie Hastert
          Dear Stephanie:
          Please explain this:

          From your own profile page on GFY, we establish you own nakedamateurs.org


          We see you're also a poster - interesting keywords, btw. 'Young Teens? Mom and son?' - fuck you.


          Incest? Charming. I guess all the content is legit though, right?


          Oh, I guess not. Nice to confirm you're an admin there.


          I'm sure you've got 2257 for http://www.nakedamateurs.org/nude.html
          And http://www.nakedamateurs.org/bbs3/index.php
          And http://www.nakedamateurs.org/bbs3/viewforum.php?f=9
          And http://www.nakedamateurs.org/bbs3/viewforum.php?f=7

          Oh, and you have the licence for celebrity pictures too, right? http://www.nakedamateurs.org/celebrities.html

          Oh, btw - even though I've moved servers a bunch of times since tour4 went up, you're still wrong:

          - even the latest update to the tour was before your 'proof'.

          I might be going out on a limb here, but google is pretty much full of your crap.

          I think you're possibly the biggest hypocrite I've ever come across.

          Edit: Nice site motto, too (in Thumbzilla font+colours, lol)
          AMATEUR PAYSITES ? WHO NEEDS THEM!
          HERE AT NAKEDAMATEURS WE GIVE IT ALL AWAY!
          Last edited by quantum-x; 04-12-2009, 04:36 PM.
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          • mynameisjim
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2007
            • 2985

            #35
            Originally posted by Stephanie Hastert
            Sweetie, I've exhausted many hours reading countless pages of 2257 documentation..
            You know what I discovered?
            Not one 2257 page grants legal authority for the use of private non consenting images for profit.

            Please, as I kindly asked thedoc, enlighten me with your wisdom so we can put this topic to rest.

            I await your fantastic response too.
            Wow, someone called me sweetie. I actually like that even if it was meant to be sarcastic.

            But I'm not sure what you want to know? Do you want to know how they can get away with it or are you asking if it is totally legal. Obviously, nude pics without docs are not within the U.S. law, there is no question about that. What I meant was if you study how inspections are actually done you will see why they don't caught up in 2257 violations. As for copyright issues regarding using the photos, the horse left the barn on that one some time ago. If people can steal full movies from huge studios and nothing happens, I doubt little 18 year old Suzie has much recourse after she posts her pics on Myspace.
            Last edited by mynameisjim; 04-12-2009, 04:42 PM.
            jim (at) amateursconvert . com Amateurs Convert

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            • Pleasurepays
              BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
              • Aug 2002
              • 11913

              #36
              haha.. wow

              thread closed!





              (of course, she's nuts so she'll try to argue and be totally convinced she's right and making sense as she digs a bigger hole for herself)

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              • quantum-x
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2002
                • 6863

                #37
                Hey, you should learn to delete work in progress pages.
                Final confirmation:

                PrettyInCash.com - BoozedGFs.com - TeenGFs.com - JizzGFs.com- MilfUploads.com -

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                • Stephanie Hastert
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 77

                  #38
                  Originally posted by TheDoc
                  Sweetie? That's a blessing for me on gfy... as for being informed.. Rather than ragging your ass, I will lend a hand..

                  You are crossing a problem called copyright with something unrelated called 2257.

                  2257 is about record keeping, however I don't need the record in my hands. Something you may want to look deeper into.

                  2257 has nothing to do with the rights of ownership, a different law covers that, called the Copyright Act.

                  The Copyright Act doesn't make it legal for people to steal and profit from you, but it sure as hell doesn't protect you either.
                  Yes! to me you are a sweetie!





                  Originally posted by Deej
                  your agruments here are all harmlessly hypocritical... you are asking me not to assume like you assumed about me.

                  anyway... no biggie... whoever knows how much ever more dosnt matter...

                  keep on with your crusade, because i dont believe in content theft either...

                  It's not necessarily a crusade. I was simply inquiring how some gf websites can offer Real amateur gf content without being the copyright holder nor having 2257 documentation. I've accessed many pay websites and noticed they offer the same exact content that I simply give away. I give it away due to the fact that I do not have any documentation for it. If I do not have documentation how do they ? They dont! Their 2257 page is trumped up and there is no custodian of records because there are no records!
                  How can they have records of a college girl that posted her dorm room pic way back in 2002 ? They cant!












                  LMAO @ quantum-x

                  Does it appear that I am actually trying to hide?

                  Why would I need 2257 documentation ?
                  I am not making a profit off of these images as you are..
                  I am not surfing the internet stealing images as you then deciding to create a members area... let alone the images I've posted have far better quality then is offered in your members area!

                  Yes! we simply give it all away! I thought of that myself!
                  Now you see what I mean.. why on earth would anyone in their right mind join a True amateur gf website when there is a vast amount of free content out there.

                  You offer stolen content for profit
                  You offer a curly hair girl standing in front of a sink in the bathroom ... Do you know she is 16 ? She resides in the state of Alabama ... I am sure you paid thousands of dollars for that too right ?

                  Enjoy the website .. it is quite fantastic to say the least!
                  Actually it's better than yours and it's FREE.. because we give it all away!


                  Sincerely
                  Stephanie Hastert

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                  • Deej
                    I make pixels work
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 24386

                    #39
                    Quantum-X =

                    Deej's Designs n' What Not
                    Hit me up for Design, CSS & Photo Retouching


                    Icq#30096880

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                    • quantum-x
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2002
                      • 6863

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Stephanie Hastert
                      You offer stolen content for profit
                      You offer a curly hair girl standing in front of a sink in the bathroom ... Do you know she is 16 ? She resides in the state of Alabama ...

                      Sincerely
                      Stephanie Hastert
                      Are you insinuating what I think you're insinuating?
                      I don't give a fuck that you think we're not legit - but to say we push CP?

                      Fuck you. Rule 4.
                      PrettyInCash.com - BoozedGFs.com - TeenGFs.com - JizzGFs.com- MilfUploads.com -

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                      • Stephanie Hastert
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 77

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Deej
                        Quantum-X =
                        I have to admit, he's one of the coolest I've ever seen. Who would ever guess to search my screen name on google ?

                        Who would ever have guessed it would lead to me ? LMAO ... Let alone everything I type is ended with
                        Sincerely
                        Stephanie Hastert ... Wow! that is simply genius!

                        Wow ? he even discovered one of my work in progress pages that I like totally ditched!
                        Why would I want to delete any of my work ? I have killer bandwidth!

                        It still doesn't explain how you can make a profit off of the stolen content you offer in your pay websites members area ?

                        Dont hate because you cant date ...

                        Sincerely
                        Stephanie Hastert
                        AKA Secret Squirrel

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                        • Pleasurepays
                          BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 11913

                          #42
                          [QUOTE=Stephanie Hastert;15736417]

                          Why would I need 2257 documentation ?
                          you don't because you are not a US Citizen. But you really don't seem to understand that is the only reason you don't and you can't seem to separate any rights you have to content and 2257. they are two totally different issues.

                          I am not making a profit off of these images as you are..
                          yeah... you are. every post, every page has ads on it. you send traffic to sponsors and you get paid. your site is ad supported. you use the content to drive traffic to the ads. in fact, you are the same goofy dumb ass that was harassing one of your sponsors on all the boards for not paying you.


                          You offer a curly hair girl standing in front of a sink in the bathroom ... Do you know she is 16 ? She resides in the state of Alabama.
                          your site is full of the exact same. charging or not charging access doesn't limit any legal liability of you have or grant you any special rights or any rights at all, to the content as the person publishing the content or otherwise exercising direct editorial control over what is published.

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                          • Stephanie Hastert
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 77

                            #43
                            Originally posted by quantum-x
                            Are you insinuating what I think you're insinuating?
                            I don't give a fuck that you think we're not legit - but to say we push CP?

                            Fuck you. Rule 4.
                            No screw you!
                            You're a lier and I proved you to be a lier!
                            You should have just sat down like a good little boy!

                            Now take a good look around my website and notice all the content that is yet to be in your members area... Oh come on everyone, lets join quantum-x's website and review saturated content that's on just about every message board west of the Mississippi.

                            Click on some links ... even more fantastic content on my partners message boards.

                            There is no way on earth you can compete with my content and partners.. absolutely no way!

                            Have a great evening all!


                            Sincerely
                            Stephanie Hastert

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                            • quantum-x
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2002
                              • 6863

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                              (of course, she's nuts so she'll try to argue and be totally convinced she's right and making sense as she digs a bigger hole for herself)
                              You read the future!
                              PrettyInCash.com - BoozedGFs.com - TeenGFs.com - JizzGFs.com- MilfUploads.com -

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                              • Eric
                                Confirmed User
                                • Dec 2000
                                • 8818

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Stephanie Hastert
                                Yes! to me you are a sweetie!








                                It's not necessarily a crusade. I was simply inquiring how some gf websites can offer Real amateur gf content without being the copyright holder nor having 2257 documentation. I've accessed many pay websites and noticed they offer the same exact content that I simply give away. I give it away due to the fact that I do not have any documentation for it. If I do not have documentation how do they ? They dont! Their 2257 page is trumped up and there is no custodian of records because there are no records!
                                How can they have records of a college girl that posted her dorm room pic way back in 2002 ? They cant!












                                LMAO @ quantum-x

                                Does it appear that I am actually trying to hide?

                                Why would I need 2257 documentation ?
                                I am not making a profit off of these images as you are..
                                I am not surfing the internet stealing images as you then deciding to create a members area... let alone the images I've posted have far better quality then is offered in your members area!

                                Yes! we simply give it all away! I thought of that myself!
                                Now you see what I mean.. why on earth would anyone in their right mind join a True amateur gf website when there is a vast amount of free content out there.

                                You offer stolen content for profit
                                You offer a curly hair girl standing in front of a sink in the bathroom ... Do you know she is 16 ? She resides in the state of Alabama ... I am sure you paid thousands of dollars for that too right ?

                                Enjoy the website .. it is quite fantastic to say the least!
                                Actually it's better than yours and it's FREE.. because we give it all away!


                                Sincerely
                                Stephanie Hastert
                                Making a claim such as this with zero proof is grounds for banning. Good Bye!
                                No One

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