2257 & True Amateur Content ? -- How is it possible ?

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  • TheDoc
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jul 2001
    • 13827
    #16
    Originally posted by Stephanie Hastert
    Correction sweetie, I know exactly how this area of the industry works.
    It appears you think of yourself as being very informed. As a example, please explain to me how a webmaster can legally use my personal image (taken in my home) on his or her website and make a profit off of it without my consent ?
    You stated '10 different solutions'.. please tell me just one using my example.




    LOL, I think you misunderstood me.
    Example : You own website A ... you're telling me you can legally use someone elses user submitted content from their website on your website and make a profit off of it ?

    Oh really? With no 2257 documentation / The poor unsuspecting girl who is depicted in the image. Plz enlighten me of you can stay legal doing that ?
    You may want to read what is actually going into law...

    And what you are referring to, is theft, stealing, copyright issues... YOU need solve, and not rely on the Gov to solve your problems for you.
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      • Stephanie Hastert
        So Fucking Banned
        • Oct 2008
        • 77
        #17
        Originally posted by TheDoc
        You may want to read what is actually going into law...

        And what you are referring to, is theft, stealing, copyright issues... YOU need solve, and not rely on the Gov to solve your problems for you.
        You are hysterical!
        Having someone using my image on a website was only a example. Perhaps you'll re-read that part.

        So inform me.. and I use your own words :

        Originally posted by TheDoc
        The new 2257 rules, I can steal content from 'some sources' and stay legal..
        Perhaps you can point out the paragraph that legally allows you to do that?

        Keep in mind I am referring to real amateur images submitted by innocent girls who in their wildest dreams never would imagined they would be displayed on a pay website.

        I await your response.


        Sincerely
        Stephanie Hastert

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          • mynameisjim
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2007
            • 2985
            #18
            You need to look into how 2257 inspections are handled.
            jim (at) amateursconvert . com Amateurs Convert

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              • Stephanie Hastert
                So Fucking Banned
                • Oct 2008
                • 77
                #19
                Originally posted by mynameisjim
                You need to look into how 2257 inspections are handled.

                Sweetie, I've exhausted many hours reading countless pages of 2257 documentation..
                You know what I discovered?
                Not one 2257 page grants legal authority for the use of private non consenting images for profit.

                Please, as I kindly asked thedoc, enlighten me with your wisdom so we can put this topic to rest.

                I await your fantastic response too.

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                  • Deej
                    I make pixels work
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 24386
                    #20
                    I have 'dabbled' way more than you ... I know all about it and who processes them.

                    Ive had those very conversations with the processors and I can see their legal obligation to process them until they are found to be working under any illegal operations.

                    I was mad at ccbill first too...

                    but i did my research and spoke to who does what...

                    So try again... and dig further...

                    Name one of those GF sites that is US based and served...

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                      • Stephanie Hastert
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 77
                        #21
                        Originally posted by Deej
                        I have 'dabbled' way more than you ... I know all about it and who processes them.
                        Oh really... First of all I do not know you from adam so how can you possibly know what I have researched, read, investigated and or had conversations with?

                        Originally posted by Deej
                        Ive had those very conversations with the processors and I can see their legal obligation to process them until they are found to be working under any illegal operations.

                        I was mad at ccbill first too...

                        but i did my research and spoke to who does what...
                        I have done the very same thing!
                        Do you actually think I would create such a touchy topic on one of the most, if not thee most popular webmaster message board in the internet without doing my homework ?

                        Originally posted by Deej
                        So try again... and dig further...
                        So please, do not tell me what I need to be or should be doing.

                        Please answer my question or show me some proof to support the claims
                        that it is legal to make a profit off of non consenting content.

                        Originally posted by Deej
                        Name one of those GF sites that is US based and served...
                        You mean to tell me you've chatted with all these people and processors concerning this very topic, PLUS you 'know way more than me' all without knowing of one illegal US gf website ?
                        Thought you knew all about it ?

                        Yes I know of quite-a-few but it seems nobody is answering my question. All I see is a lot of dancing around the original topic question. Respond to my question without thinking you know it all (which runs ramped on this board) and I will respond to yours.

                        Sincerely
                        Stephanie Hastert

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                          • quantum-x
                            Confirmed User
                            • Feb 2002
                            • 6863
                            #22
                            Originally posted by Stephanie Hastert
                            I have done the very same thing!
                            Do you actually think I would create such a touchy topic on one of the most, if not thee most popular webmaster message board in the internet without doing my homework ?
                            Without trying to stir up drama - if you've done your homework, and sufficient research, I find it hard to believe that you're not aware that legal sites exist. There aren't many: couldn't be too hard to find. I don't recall seeing nor hearing from you before, so to the best of my knowledge, you've not contacted us.

                            With that in mind, and as has already been touched on in this thread: there are fairly obvious ways to run a legal operation.

                            You're not really probing into a 'sensitive issue' - this has been discussed ad nauseum for literally years on GFY.

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                              • Stephanie Hastert
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 77
                                #23
                                Originally posted by quantum-x
                                Without trying to stir up drama - if you've done your homework, and sufficient research, I find it hard to believe that you're not aware that legal sites exist. There aren't many: couldn't be too hard to find. I don't recall seeing nor hearing from you before, so to the best of my knowledge, you've not contacted us.

                                With that in mind, and as has already been touched on in this thread: there are fairly obvious ways to run a legal operation.

                                You're not really probing into a 'sensitive issue' - this has been discussed ad nauseum for literally years on GFY.

                                I invite you to check out our program and send some traffic. We've got guys converting at 1:60 this period, on our $100 PPS day

                                Why are you constantly trying to promote your website?

                                Sweetie, I have 35 gig's of true real amateur content that does not have any documentation!
                                Right now I am looking at well over 70CD's filled with Real amateur content. I have seen the interior of your website including your content and frankly I am not impressed!
                                All that your website offers is what any free amateur message board offers.. so! where did you acquire your documentation ?

                                This image of yours was made by a visitor on a adult message board I frequent!
                                He made quite a few and is very talented! Do you have documentation on that image ?
                                I hardly think so!



                                Care to continue ?
                                I wouldn't if I were you!

                                Sincerely
                                Stephanie Hastert

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                                  • cykoe6
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Apr 2005
                                    • 4499
                                    #24
                                    Damn........ either there is either a whole lot of stupid in this thread or people are pretty desperate to obfuscate the issue.
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                                      • shermo
                                        #25
                                        Originally posted by Stephanie Hastert
                                        Why are you constantly trying to promote your website?

                                        Sweetie, I have 35 gig's of true real amateur content that does not have any documentation!
                                        Right now I am looking at well over 70CD's filled with Real amateur content. I have seen the interior of your website including your content and frankly I am not impressed!
                                        All that your website offers is what any free amateur message board offers.. so! where did you acquire your documentation ?

                                        This image of yours was made by a visitor on a adult message board I frequent!
                                        He made quite a few and is very talented! Do you have documentation on that image ?
                                        I hardly think so!



                                        Care to continue ?
                                        I wouldn't if I were you!

                                        Sincerely
                                        Stephanie Hastert
                                        Perhaps the submission comes accompanied with the ID's of the models, as well as a signed/faxed copy of a release?

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                                          • quantum-x
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Feb 2002
                                            • 6863
                                            #26
                                            Originally posted by Stephanie Hastert
                                            Why are you constantly trying to promote your website?
                                            Because it's super awesome...


                                            Originally posted by Stephanie Hastert
                                            Sweetie, I have 35 gig's of true real amateur content that does not have any documentation!
                                            Right now I am looking at well over 70CD's filled with Real amateur content.
                                            ..So what's your point? You've got content without documentation.. ?

                                            Originally posted by Stephanie Hastert
                                            I have seen the interior of your website including your content and frankly I am not impressed!
                                            All that your website offers is what any free amateur message board offers..
                                            I'm sorry, when I looked up your info in our database, I came up blank. Kindly let me know what your username was... ?

                                            Originally posted by Stephanie Hastert
                                            so! where did you acquire your documentation ?
                                            We've got Model Releases and IDs for all our content. If you'd been over our site with such a fine tooth comb, you'd have realised that. It's not exactly hidden.

                                            Originally posted by Stephanie Hastert
                                            This image of yours was made by a visitor on a adult message board I frequent!
                                            He made quite a few and is very talented! Do you have documentation on that image ?
                                            I hardly think so!
                                            Post 'his' PSD or STFU. Seriously.


                                            Originally posted by Stephanie Hastert
                                            Care to continue ?
                                            I wouldn't if I were you!

                                            Sincerely
                                            Stephanie Hastert
                                            Our sites have withstood a lot more scrutiny than the likes of you (IE, lawyers, VISA and ID checks, not FUD and speculation) - and come out clean every time.

                                            Isn't this what you started your thread for to find legit sites? Or were you just trolling to let us know about your non-id'd content?

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                                              • Daddy Big Nuts
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Mar 2002
                                                • 1080
                                                #27
                                                Man...this is the best Sunday thread in a while.......

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                                                  • Stephanie Hastert
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • Oct 2008
                                                    • 77
                                                    #28
                                                    Originally posted by quantum-x
                                                    We've got Model Releases and IDs for all our content. If you'd been over our site with such a fine tooth comb, you'd have realised that. It's not exactly hidden.


                                                    Post 'his' PSD or STFU. Seriously.

                                                    You STFU content thief!
                                                    All I see from you is a large mouth without one shred of proof!



                                                    Plus you spelled realized wrong! Seriously.


                                                    Sincerely
                                                    Stephanie Hastert

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                                                      • quantum-x
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Feb 2002
                                                        • 6863
                                                        #29
                                                        Originally posted by Stephanie Hastert
                                                        You STFU content thief!
                                                        All I see from you is a large mouth without one shred of proof!



                                                        Plus you spelled realized wrong! Seriously.


                                                        Sincerely
                                                        Stephanie Hastert
                                                        Wait.. that's your proof? I was taking you seriously up until now.

                                                        There's no convincing you. I know we pay our girls thousands of dollars a week for content, and I'm confident that come any inspection, we'd pass with flying colours, as we have under all previous scrutiny.

                                                        Seriously, latch onto one of the umpteen other sites out there that actually don't have content.

                                                        PS: Hey spelling nazi: I'm not American, 'realised' is spelled with an 's' ;)
                                                        I'm out, have a nice night.
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                                                          • Pleasurepays
                                                            BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                            • 11913
                                                            #30
                                                            as i always say... content should be seen... not heard. every time the content gets uppity, a train wreck of a thread ensues.

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