Think twice before you give that homeless guy your change next time.
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So in major cities none of the beggars are organized?
They all just happily let each other have a spot and they don't try and fight over spots or rob each other?
That's what you say?Comment
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Not sure where Ozark has been but in Minneapolis, they are not organized. they do fight over corners. One corner had the guy hire security as he was making so much(supposedly). One corner with three bums who work it is worth 60k a year(supposedly). So yeah I guess they do ok but it is booze and drugs every night then back to the corner. They might not be truly homeless in that they sleep indoors but pretty rough deal all around.Comment
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Should we start a separate thread to talk about your past?
They fight in cities like Montreal where it is organized. Fights happen for many reasons.Not sure where Ozark has been but in Minneapolis, they are not organized. they do fight over corners. One corner had the guy hire security as he was making so much(supposedly). One corner with three bums who work it is worth 60k a year(supposedly). So yeah I guess they do ok but it is booze and drugs every night then back to the corner. They might not be truly homeless in that they sleep indoors but pretty rough deal all around.Last edited by Ozarkz; 04-09-2009, 03:00 PM.Comment
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Anyways if you are going to give the homeless money.
Give it to a kid cause they will be able to do more with it. Even if it is just for drugs it will make the kid happy for that moment.
Now i'm really done with this thread. Too much ignorance.Last edited by Ozarkz; 04-09-2009, 03:02 PM.Comment
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I have no plans to be in Costa Rica any time soon.
I'm leaving this thread. You can continue your bs in a new thread if you want.Comment
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Let's examine your own words
You didn't say some of the beggars in some fairly small cities might be organized.Those guys you see on the street asking for change every day are part of organized crime...
Listing three Canadian cities and San Fransico, none of which would even be in the top 100 for largest cities is hardly representative of "major cities" as a whole. See, this kind of stuff is how I know you're just an idiot. Your logic is just so ass backwards it's absurd really. The TOTAL combined population of Canada is probably less than the top 50 largest cities but suddently you've seen it all.
Seriously kid, get out and see the World..Comment
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I'm bad under no circumstance do I ever give them money. well one time when I was depressed about a break up. I thought I needed a little good karma.Comment
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my only debt is $40K in student loans. Heard average American had something like 13 lines of credit between mortgages, credit cards, store-specific cards, car-payment, student loans, etc.
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Listen son, you can go on and on about your wild fantasy of organized crime panhandlers, but in the real world I spent over 10 years of my life in these neighborhoods dealing with these people on a daily basis. You can't fucking herd cats, and these people went out on their own every day to beg for their own money, of which they would use to buy alcohol and drugs. When they found a good spot that they could make money at you would find them there day after day, with the same bullshit story about how their car just ran out of gas up the street and they need money to buy gas and get home.
There was no organization, and in fact they would often rob each other, so enough already...Comment
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Good train of though.This kid last night asked me for some change and I said I had none.
But as i'm in the store i'm thinking.. Maybe I should give the kid a $20..
but then I thought about it..
What if this money goes towards him buying drugs or something else stupid?
I would just be enabling him. So I decided to not give him any cash.
Down here we have the mafia running this bum operation. They deploy bums, cripples, women and children (just like in Slumdog Millionaire) at high traffic places and make CRAZY $$$ from it. Mafia keeps all the cash and the bums barely get enough money to buy food.Comment
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I just read the whole thread.
People who don't believe that this is a multi-million organized crime gig need to snap the fuck out of the fantasy world they're living it.
The mafia manages all the bum/cripple beggars and then kicks the cash back to government officials so they turn a blind eye to it.Comment
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Most of us have already agreed that yes there probably are groups organized. My old weed dealer used to have a little circle of crackheads he sold crack to. He was always trying to sell me new Xbox's or whatever. I could bring him a flyer from the paper with what I wanted circled, and he'd send his crackheads out if I wanted. Half of retail price was the charge. I'm sure he got it for half that or less. It is entirely possible that there are loyal homeless people who have agreed to give all their bum funds to one person. But it is far from the norm.
It's not like a monopoloy on the bumming industry by a long shot. I've seen plenty of bum fights break out. Usually it's because they are drugged up, drunk, and or just plain crazy. Homeless wil fight amongst eachother frequently. It's every man for himself, with temporary allegiances formed here and there. To call it organized is stretching. The most of the bums who group together do it for temporary protection, or just company, not to work for some pimpdaddy drug dealer as bum employees. Worst case scenario it's a "You buy your smack from me and only me, or I'll fucking shoot you" kind of deal, to maintain clientele and combat other dealers. Not a, "Would you like to join my bum gang? We run these streets"...Comment
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Are the responses to me in this thread for real or is this just trolling at its best?
Unbelievable.
I stand by my original post.
I'm not going to go back and forth with a bunch of clueless idiots.
/meinthisthread
JaneB, Read what I said. I spent A LOT of time with homeless not catholic school community service.
As a kid because of the stuff I was into I associated myself with street kids except I was able to go home at night.
Apparantly you have never went to a private school. You spend a ton of time doing community service. Most of mine was spent at the food banks and soup kitchens. I have talked to a lot of homeless people over the years, but I have never been in their situation. I do not think you can really understand what they go through unless you have experienced that lifestyle. I still do volunteer work. A lot of it is in Phoenix, which is not a small town.
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Actually it is true that there is some organization to the beggars in high dencity aeras. They have to pay for their spots and stuff.Ya, they're called crack dealers
The people ARE homeless. It's not like a 9-5 where guys get into their streets rags Mon-Fri. There's a reason you see them on the street every day. I'd hardly call it organized...
Fucking retardation is running rampant in this thread...Originally posted by rayadp05I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?Comment
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It's the same as with hookers, or corner pushers. You dont see them flying solo.
Same thing here. That much moneys is never going to be floating around unregulated.Comment
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A 19 year old riding trains with hobos and camping with fugitives without being raped and having his neck snapped. The gentleman in my avatar would like to believe you.
When I was 19 I was broke going into the summer, didn't have a job, didn't have much money. Me and a buddy decided to go on an adventure and hitchhike around the country. We went broke pretty fucking fast. We wound up begging for change, sleeping on park benches, ate at soup kitchens, slept in shelters. Picked up up day jobs as farm labor, done the fruitpicking circuit, camped out of mountainside mushrooms camps with fugitives. I know what the early lineup for Sunday morning free pancake breakfast at the Christian fellowship looks like. I've caught a train through the mountains with hobos, ran with packs of street kids and seen all sorts of crazy assed shit go down that you wouldn't believe if I bothered to type it up. I've talked to homeless from all different backgrounds. I still look back on that summer and loved every fucking moment of it. It's a humbling experience to know what it's like to live day to day with zero money to your name. I had a blast, and even though I could never go do it again, I'm glad I did.
I KNOW, YOU DON'T. Let's leave it at that. One day when you graduate from highschool with a whopping D average, I suggest you get out and see the world too...Comment
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I'm gonna take a wild swing at this one..
I think you're Klaze.
Amiright?Comment
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