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  • Michael O
    More Cowbell
    • Jul 2001
    • 10607

    #1

    ePassporte - ATM Protection Program

    ePassporte has been notified of increased unauthorized ATM activity. In order to protect you, ePassporte has implemented the ATM Protection Program. Your new Standard ATM Limits are as follows:

    Standard Daily ATM Transaction Limit: 2
    Standard Total Daily ATM Withdrawal Limit: $300.00

    While your Standard ATM Limits are active, you are protected against unauthorized ATM transactions up to US$300, per day.

    Other purchase and withdrawal limits on your ePassporte account will remain unchanged.

    You may currently have a pre-authorized withdrawal limit greater than the limits listed above (“Personal ATM Limits”). You activate your Personal ATM Limits at three-hour intervals by following the steps in the Manage Visa Card(s) section on the ePassporte website. While your Personal ATM Limits are active, you will be required to accept full liability for all unauthorized activity on your account.

    You may choose to opt-out of the ATM Protection Program and set your Personal ATM Limits as the default limit, but by choosing to do this, you agree to accept and assume full liability for all unauthorized ATM transactions on your account.

    To learn more about the ATM Protection Program, please visit our Terms and Conditions at ePassporte.com.

    Thank you.

    ------------

    This means if you have higher limits than $300 per day you need to activate the higher limits and withdraw within 3 hours of doing so to be able to withdraw more than $300 per day after the 3 hours are up your limits will go back to $300.
    Alternatively you can opt out of the ATM Protection Program and will be able to withdraw the full daily limit at any time but you will be responsible for ALL unauthorized transaction done on your Electron card.

    You can active your higher limits inside your account or by calling CS at +1.310.301.2001

    If you have any questions feel free to ask them here or send me a email to [email protected]
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  • who
    So Fucking Banned
    • Aug 2003
    • 19593

    #2
    I like the line about making the customer fully liable for all withdrawals.

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    • Darkcrni
      Confirmed User
      • Jun 2007
      • 1704

      #3
      Here's a bump for you M!

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      • Agent 488
        Registered User
        • Feb 2006
        • 22511

        #4
        michael i am getting this right after i enter my password:

        Oops!

        We can't find the page you requested on our server. If you want to help us fix the problem you can email us at [email protected] and let us know where you see the problem.

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        • Michael O
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          • Jul 2001
          • 10607

          #5
          If you have problems logging in please wait 5 minutes and try again.
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          • Varius
            Confirmed User
            • Jun 2004
            • 6890

            #6
            Trying to login (after submitting password):

            Oops!

            We can't find the page you requested on our server. If you want to help us fix the problem you can email us at [email protected] and let us know where you see the problem.

            I think you guys might have wanted to forward to a news page about this change, but are sending to a 404 instead.

            From that 404 page though, clicking the top menu buttons though I can still access my account fine so it's not too big a deal, just letting you know
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            • who
              So Fucking Banned
              • Aug 2003
              • 19593

              #7
              Everyone who opts out is going to get royally screwed.

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              • Varius
                Confirmed User
                • Jun 2004
                • 6890

                #8
                Originally posted by who
                Everyone who opts out is going to get royally screwed.
                I opted out, so I better not
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                • Agent 488
                  Registered User
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 22511

                  #9
                  ok works now.

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                  • SmokeyTheBear
                    ►SouthOfHeaven
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 28609

                    #10
                    how are the thieves withdrawing money from accounts they dont own ? Dont they actually need the card to do that ?

                    I could be wrong but i would think the ONLY way this would happen is thieves who copy the actual card itself at the point of transaction ( i.e. swipe/atm ). This must be rather rare and couldnt affect epassporte more than any other institution right ? i don't see how there could be a sudden increase unless its an epassporte employee or someone snagging the cards before they reach their destination .. in these cases i would think epassporte has a problem

                    Just out of curiosity , if an atm is duped and found does visa reimburse you anything for the stolen transactions ?
                    hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                    • Darkcrni
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 1704

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Varius
                      Trying to login (after submitting password):

                      Oops!

                      We can't find the page you requested on our server. If you want to help us fix the problem you can email us at [email protected] and let us know where you see the problem.

                      I think you guys might have wanted to forward to a news page about this change, but are sending to a 404 instead.

                      From that 404 page though, clicking the top menu buttons though I can still access my account fine so it's not too big a deal, just letting you know


                      Yup me too! And im already made a thread about this one! Im an idiot! Just disregard that one threat!!!

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                      • Michael O
                        More Cowbell
                        • Jul 2001
                        • 10607

                        #12
                        Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                        how are the thieves withdrawing money from accounts they dont own ? Dont they actually need the card to do that ?

                        I could be wrong but i would think the ONLY way this would happen is thieves who copy the actual card itself at the point of transaction ( i.e. swipe/atm ). This must be rather rare and couldnt affect epassporte more than any other institution right ? i don't see how there could be a sudden increase unless its an epassporte employee or someone snagging the cards before they reach their destination .. in these cases i would think epassporte has a problem

                        Just out of curiosity , if an atm is duped and found does visa reimburse you anything for the stolen transactions ?

                        This is an issue of cards being copied at the ATM/swipe. This have been a major problem in many countries for years and the scammers gets more and more sophisticated and the problem is on the rise.

                        For you other point instead of just ignoring it since you are always insinuating things like this I will say:
                        We receive the cards in sealed envelopes from the printer, we ship the cards the Account Holder then activates the card and choose a PIN of their own.
                        Last edited by Michael O; 04-08-2009, 08:42 AM.
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                        • BlackElf
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 1171

                          #13
                          FYI - it is not just at ATMs
                          There are places that employees will take your card to charge it and before giving it back to you they will swipe it in a Card Copy device
                          I know it happened in the past at Full service Gas stations

                          Card Copy device are small and can store many cards info in memory.
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                          • SmokeyTheBear
                            ►SouthOfHeaven
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 28609

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Michael O
                            This is an issue of cards being copied at the ATM/swipe. This have been a major problem in many countries for years and the scammers gets more and more sophisticated and the problem is on the rise.
                            because of the unique position of epassporte being purely online , couldnt there be another solution , like rotating pin numbers ?

                            like 5 pin numbers , once a withdraw takes place the pin rotates to a new pin


                            Originally posted by Michael O
                            For you other point instead of just ignoring it since you are always insinuating things like this I will say:
                            whoah there, i think you take my questions too personally michael. I own a business, i know employees steal shit, i certainly dont think epass employees are any less trustworthy than employees of visa or mastercard, with that being said , i think employees of visa and mastercard steal shit just like every other companies. I was merely ruling out the most obvious suspects.
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                            • seeandsee
                              Check SIG!
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 50945

                              #15
                              don't really get this, can somebody explain a little bit? When i set limit to 300$ to day, what protection do i get?
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                              • Michael O
                                More Cowbell
                                • Jul 2001
                                • 10607

                                #16
                                Originally posted by seeandsee
                                don't really get this, can somebody explain a little bit? When i set limit to 300$ to day, what protection do i get?
                                If you use the protection program and your card is cloned and someone takes out $300 then the money can be recovered.
                                If you don't use the protection program there is no chance of getting the funds back.
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                                • moeloubani
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Dec 2007
                                  • 4235

                                  #17
                                  so is this actually an increase in total withdrawal daily for some accounts? like now can i take out 2 x $300 a day vs $320 a day?

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                                  • V_RocKs
                                    Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                    • Nov 2003
                                    • 32448

                                    #18
                                    I like my $5K limit just how it is, thanks!

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                                    • Michael O
                                      More Cowbell
                                      • Jul 2001
                                      • 10607

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by moeloubani
                                      so is this actually an increase in total withdrawal daily for some accounts? like now can i take out 2 x $300 a day vs $320 a day?
                                      No you have 2 transaction with a $300 total maximum.
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                                      • Wizzo
                                        2011 GFY Hall of Fame!
                                        • Nov 2000
                                        • 15224

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                        because of the unique position of epassporte being purely online , couldnt there be another solution , like rotating pin numbers ?

                                        like 5 pin numbers , once a withdraw takes place the pin rotates to a new pin
                                        Some of us that make nearly daily withdrawals that would be a major pain...
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                                        • seeandsee
                                          Check SIG!
                                          • Mar 2006
                                          • 50945

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Michael O
                                          If you use the protection program and your card is cloned and someone takes out $300 then the money can be recovered.
                                          If you don't use the protection program there is no chance of getting the funds back.
                                          thanks M.O. , i get it now
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                                          • Fabien
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jul 2003
                                            • 4789

                                            #22
                                            Sorry my english sucks ass.

                                            I was able to widthdraw 500$ everyday. Now it's only 300$ (2 transactions max) and there is a way to put it back to 500$ only for 3 hours ? After it goes back to 300$ ? You need to activate (or whatever) something each time if you want to withdraw more than 300$ ?

                                            Sorry again.
                                            I'm learning spanish, maybe i should push more for my english hahahahahahah

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                                            • Mr.Right - Banned For Life
                                              I guarantee it
                                              • May 2005
                                              • 18314

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Fabien
                                              Sorry my english sucks ass.

                                              I was able to widthdraw 500$ everyday. Now it's only 300$ (2 transactions max) and there is a way to put it back to 500$ only for 3 hours ? After it goes back to 300$ ? You need to activate (or whatever) something each time if you want to withdraw more than 300$ ?

                                              Sorry again.
                                              I'm learning spanish, maybe i should push more for my english hahahahahahah
                                              You can completely deactivate this feature. Just go to your Cards and click the "opt out" link on the bottom.



                                              Good stuff Michael

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                                              • urbanpimp
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • May 2007
                                                • 526

                                                #24
                                                Michael... You just fixed my problem.
                                                Thanks again for great service.

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                                                • digifan
                                                  The Profiler
                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                  • 14618

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Michael O
                                                  This is an issue of cards being copied at the ATM/swipe. This have been a major problem in many countries for years and the scammers gets more and more sophisticated and the problem is on the rise.

                                                  For you other point instead of just ignoring it since you are always insinuating things like this I will say:
                                                  We receive the cards in sealed envelopes from the printer, we ship the cards the Account Holder then activates the card and choose a PIN of their own.
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                                                  • Ethersync
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Mar 2008
                                                    • 5289

                                                    #26
                                                    Keep money in your ePass Wallet and transfer to your card as needed...
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                                                    • Michael O
                                                      More Cowbell
                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                      • 10607

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Ethersync
                                                      Keep money in your ePass Wallet and transfer to your card as needed...
                                                      Yes this is the optimal solution.
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                                                      • jonnax
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                        • 187

                                                        #28
                                                        Does epass cards support this embedded micro-computer chip technology nowdays?

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                                                        • Klen
                                                          • Aug 2006
                                                          • 32234

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Michael O
                                                          Yes this is the optimal solution.
                                                          This is why i am confused with this feature.I mean it is enough to put default load on wallet,and when you need to withdraw money or buy something with virtual visa transfer amount which you need and problem solved.Works perfectly fine.

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                                                          • SmokeyTheBear
                                                            ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                            • Jun 2004
                                                            • 28609

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Wizzo
                                                            Some of us that make nearly daily withdrawals that would be a major pain...
                                                            5 pins shouldnt be a major pain, you just use the next pin everytime you withdraw funds

                                                            even 2 sets of pins would seriously thwart theft, even if they happened to hit the right one at the right time they can't do it twice
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                                                            • pornguy
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                              • 62910

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                              how are the thieves withdrawing money from accounts they dont own ? Dont they actually need the card to do that ?

                                                              I could be wrong but i would think the ONLY way this would happen is thieves who copy the actual card itself at the point of transaction ( i.e. swipe/atm ). This must be rather rare and couldnt affect epassporte more than any other institution right ? i don't see how there could be a sudden increase unless its an epassporte employee or someone snagging the cards before they reach their destination .. in these cases i would think epassporte has a problem

                                                              Just out of curiosity , if an atm is duped and found does visa reimburse you anything for the stolen transactions ?
                                                              Sounds to me more like DOUBLE atm Fees.
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                                                              • bdld
                                                                $100,000
                                                                • Dec 2001
                                                                • 11452

                                                                #32
                                                                it does mean more atm fees but you can opt out of this and leave your account as is.

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                                                                • papill0n
                                                                  Unregistered Abuser
                                                                  • Oct 2007
                                                                  • 15547

                                                                  #33
                                                                  More security can only be a good thing

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                                                                  • Nicky
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                    • 30071

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Okey dokey

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                                                                    • Michael O
                                                                      More Cowbell
                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                      • 10607

                                                                      #35
                                                                      It does not mean more fees.
                                                                      If you log in to your account and click Visa Cards --> ATM Protection Program --> Activate Personal Limits then your limits is exactly the same as before.

                                                                      This is to protect against fraud but it is voluntary and you have the option to opt out and accept the risk.

                                                                      With a call to CS you can also get the Personal Limits activated/deactivated.
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                                                                      • Michael O
                                                                        More Cowbell
                                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                                        • 10607

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                                                                        This is why i am confused with this feature.I mean it is enough to put default load on wallet,and when you need to withdraw money or buy something with virtual visa transfer amount which you need and problem solved.Works perfectly fine.

                                                                        That is what I personally do but I still use the new feature just in case.
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                                                                        • CaptainHowdy
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Dec 2004
                                                                          • 94034

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Mind if I say: I LOVE EPASS ??

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                                                                          • beta-tester
                                                                            Rock 'n Roll Baby!
                                                                            • Sep 2004
                                                                            • 22562

                                                                            #38
                                                                            nice feature definitely. It should be good to have email sent whenever the money withdrawal is done also. That way you can easily track all the transactions that happen on your account.

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                                                                            • Basic_man
                                                                              Programming King Pin
                                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                                              • 27360

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Way to go ePass!
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                                                                              • Tempest
                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                • May 2004
                                                                                • 10217

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Don't understand why this is required given the wallet feature works really well at preventing anyone (including me when I've forgotten to xfr the funds) from withdrawing anything.. Except for the morons that don't use it and they deserve to get ass fucked.

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                                                                                • woj
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                                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                                  • 47880

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                  because of the unique position of epassporte being purely online , couldnt there be another solution , like rotating pin numbers ?

                                                                                  like 5 pin numbers , once a withdraw takes place the pin rotates to a new pin

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                                                                                  • pornguy
                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                                    • 62910

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Michael O
                                                                                    It does not mean more fees.
                                                                                    If you log in to your account and click Visa Cards --> ATM Protection Program --> Activate Personal Limits then your limits is exactly the same as before.

                                                                                    This is to protect against fraud but it is voluntary and you have the option to opt out and accept the risk.

                                                                                    With a call to CS you can also get the Personal Limits activated/deactivated.
                                                                                    Did not know you could do that., Its nice because of us we get hit with 2 fees here from the ATM plus the EPass fees so 1 big with drawl is better than 2 or 3
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                                                                                    • pornguy
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                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                      • 62910

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by woj

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                                                                                      • blonda80
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                                                                                        • May 2006
                                                                                        • 10959

                                                                                        #44
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                                                                                        • Bhunter
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Dec 2006
                                                                                          • 1119

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          are you familiar with security measures in the Netherlands?

                                                                                          i use the card to withdraw only at few ATM's around my area.

                                                                                          The $300 limit is to low for me.

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                                                                                          • teg0
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Jan 2006
                                                                                            • 4204

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Not sure if I like this feature yet, we'll see.

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                                                                                            • Michael O
                                                                                              More Cowbell
                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                              • 10607

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Bhunter
                                                                                              are you familiar with security measures in the Netherlands?

                                                                                              i use the card to withdraw only at few ATM's around my area.

                                                                                              The $300 limit is to low for me.
                                                                                              You can still use your old limits.
                                                                                              Log in and click Visa Cards -> ATM Protection Program -> Activate Personal Limits and you will have your regular limits for 3 hours
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                                                                                              • pornocruto
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Jan 2009
                                                                                                • 1308

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Just another step to prevent fraud, i like it.

                                                                                                For those who dont, they can simply opt out.. Good call ePass!

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                                                                                                • fuzebox
                                                                                                  making it rain
                                                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                                                  • 22353

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  My withdraw limit has been $520 for the last 4 years... Now after opting out of the protection program it is still at $300

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                                                                                                  • Michael O
                                                                                                    More Cowbell
                                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                                    • 10607

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                                                                    My withdraw limit has been $520 for the last 4 years... Now after opting out of the protection program it is still at $300
                                                                                                    Please email me your UserID to [email protected] then I will look into it.
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