Domain theft..what to do - GoFuckYourself.com

49thParallel · 11-23-2002, 11:15 AM

Yesterday, 12 of my highest traffic domains...4 mainstream and 8 adult...suddenly fell off the face of the earth. Well, I just heard back from my domain register, and the domains in question have now all appeared at dotster.com...although no registrant info is showing up in Whois.

Since these domains were not expiring for another year, and I didn't transfer the domains..they have been stolen from me. Anyone else have this type of experience and know a quick way to resolve the problem?

Fletch XXX · 11-23-2002, 11:17 AM

What registrant do you use?

DirectNIC.

Allows you to set the level of security on domains.

This is one problem with using shitty domain registrant.

Yeah keep regging em for 8.92 - meanwhile some Joe is hicjaking your registrants policies.

Sorry to hear.

Fletch XXX · 11-23-2002, 11:19 AM

Just logged in my reg.

Quoted this for you from DIRECTNIC>

'You are currently set to: High Security
When directNIC receives a request to transfer a domain away from directNIC to another registrar, two email notifications will be sent; one to the domain registrant's directNIC account email address, and another to the email address that is listed as the domain's administrative contact in WHOIS.

To protect its customers, directNIC recently added two security settings for the transfers.

High Security - *** Recommended: This will automatically decline all transfers to other registrars. You still have the option to transfer your domains, but you will have to approve any transfer requests.

Normal Security: This will automatically allow the transfer, if neither of the notification emails is responded to within five days. '

Amputate Your Head · 11-23-2002, 11:20 AM

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dimonka · 11-23-2002, 11:20 AM

Are you sure you paid for the domain ??? And what did domain registerer answered you ??? Hmmm...

49thParallel · 11-23-2002, 11:23 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
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Thanks as always for a complete waste of space. Do me a favor, this is a serious issue for me. Let people that have valid suggestions post...this is my income we are talking about..not just a minor inconvenience..harrass me on some other thread...not this one...

I'm not in the mood for "could haves, should haves". I'm looking for professional answers by people that have been in this type of legal situation. This is my livelyhood...hope the rest of you understand.

Thank you.

Amputate Your Head · 11-23-2002, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 49thParallel

Thanks as always for a complete waste of space. Do me a favor, this is a serious issue for me. Let people that have valid suggestions post...this is my income we are talking about..not just a minor inconvenience..harrass me on some other theread...not this one...
Thank you.

lol.... crybaby.

marzzo · 11-23-2002, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 49thParallel

Thanks as always for a complete waste of space. Do me a favor, this is a serious issue for me. Let people that have valid suggestions post...this is my income we are talking about..not just a minor inconvenience..harrass me on some other thread...not this one...

I'm not in the mood for "could haves, should haves". I'm looking for professional answers by people that have been in this type of legal situation. This is my livelyhood...hope the rest of you understand.

Thank you.

What registrar do you use? I'll move my domains if I'm using the same one - do tell

Amputate Your Head · 11-23-2002, 11:38 AM

if you had been using OpenSRS, this wouldn;t have happened. It's your own fault.

x582 · 11-23-2002, 11:42 AM

Well, I don't know very much what to say. I suggest that you call your registrar and you explain them what happened and ask them the proof they have on file when you "supposedly" transfered your domain names.

Let them know that this is a fraud and you'll be pressing charges. Contact all parties who are engaged in this and explain your problem to every persone you talk to. If you see that it's not working as fast as you want - maybe it would be better for you to seek legal counsel to help you resolve that matter.

Sorry...

hyper · 11-23-2002, 11:43 AM

nothing you can do except take it to arbitration..

nobody will help you

KRL · 11-23-2002, 11:44 AM

Contact an attorney immediately to file notice with your register regarding the situation and that a fraudulent transfer has occured. This might not get you your domains back immediately but it will start the paper trail for the dispute and depending on the policies of the registrar they were shifted to it should at least put them into a limbo state temporarily til things can be sorted out.

But do everything by the book from a legal standpoint in case you need to go to court here. Don't go off the deep end with threats to the guy or shit on that level, even though this is something to spark that kind of emotional reaction, be professional and have an attorney handle it. When a registrar receives a letter on an attorney's letterhead they will give that solid credibility that there is an issue here.

Keep us posted. My partner in a deal now had a huge adult domain absconded like that once.

Daymare · 11-23-2002, 11:47 AM

That really sucks man, but like Fletch said, make sure your domains are with a good registrar... like Directnic... they cost $15/year, but they have good tech support and high security.

Brujah · 11-23-2002, 12:31 PM

Most registrars have the same security features, registrar lock, auto renewals, great support, etc.. AND can do it for $8 just fine.

The $15 doesn't mean shit, except more profit for the registrar.

The registrars that have difficulty with the fraudulent transfers are usually the higher priced ones like Network Solutions.

archer · 11-23-2002, 03:25 PM

directnic is hardly the be all and end all.

i had a problem with a domain being stolen and directnic was the registrar.

what i did was put together my ownership history of the domain... when registered/rewnewed etc. and sent it off to directnic....

they said that the 'domain thief' would have to prove that he'd legally obtained the domain... ie have his own ownership record.

and then i simply screamed blue murder..... calling, leaving messages, constant emails.... etc.

i had the domain back in a week.

Mr.Fiction · 11-23-2002, 04:17 PM

Get a fucking lawyer and threaten to sue everyone involved. It worked for me once when we got a name stolen at Netsol.

11-23-2002, 11:15 AM	#1
49thParallel So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,197	Domain theft..what to do Yesterday, 12 of my highest traffic domains...4 mainstream and 8 adult...suddenly fell off the face of the earth. Well, I just heard back from my domain register, and the domains in question have now all appeared at dotster.com...although no registrant info is showing up in Whois. Since these domains were not expiring for another year, and I didn't transfer the domains..they have been stolen from me. Anyone else have this type of experience and know a quick way to resolve the problem? Last edited by 49thParallel; 11-23-2002 at 11:16 AM..

11-23-2002, 11:17 AM	#2
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	What registrant do you use? DirectNIC. Allows you to set the level of security on domains. This is one problem with using shitty domain registrant. Yeah keep regging em for 8.92 - meanwhile some Joe is hicjaking your registrants policies. Sorry to hear. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me Last edited by Fletch XXX; 11-23-2002 at 11:19 AM..

11-23-2002, 11:19 AM	#3
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	Just logged in my reg. Quoted this for you from DIRECTNIC> 'You are currently set to: High Security When directNIC receives a request to transfer a domain away from directNIC to another registrar, two email notifications will be sent; one to the domain registrant's directNIC account email address, and another to the email address that is listed as the domain's administrative contact in WHOIS. To protect its customers, directNIC recently added two security settings for the transfers. High Security - * Recommended: This will automatically decline all transfers to other registrars. You still have the option to transfer your domains, but you will have to approve any transfer requests. Normal Security: This will automatically allow the transfer, if neither of the notification emails is responded to within five days. ' __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me**

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11-23-2002, 11:20 AM	#5
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11-23-2002, 11:38 AM	#9
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	if you had been using OpenSRS, this wouldn;t have happened. It's your own fault. __________________ SIG TOO BIG

11-23-2002, 11:42 AM	#10
x582 Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: heh? Posts: 609	Well, I don't know very much what to say. I suggest that you call your registrar and you explain them what happened and ask them the proof they have on file when you "supposedly" transfered your domain names. Let them know that this is a fraud and you'll be pressing charges. Contact all parties who are engaged in this and explain your problem to every persone you talk to. If you see that it's not working as fast as you want - maybe it would be better for you to seek legal counsel to help you resolve that matter. Sorry...

11-23-2002, 11:43 AM	#11
hyper Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mass Ass Posts: 5,294	nothing you can do except take it to arbitration.. nobody will help you __________________

11-23-2002, 11:44 AM	#12
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	Contact an attorney immediately to file notice with your register regarding the situation and that a fraudulent transfer has occured. This might not get you your domains back immediately but it will start the paper trail for the dispute and depending on the policies of the registrar they were shifted to it should at least put them into a limbo state temporarily til things can be sorted out. But do everything by the book from a legal standpoint in case you need to go to court here. Don't go off the deep end with threats to the guy or shit on that level, even though this is something to spark that kind of emotional reaction, be professional and have an attorney handle it. When a registrar receives a letter on an attorney's letterhead they will give that solid credibility that there is an issue here. Keep us posted. My partner in a deal now had a huge adult domain absconded like that once. __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

11-23-2002, 11:47 AM	#13
Daymare Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,674	That really sucks man, but like Fletch said, make sure your domains are with a good registrar... like Directnic... they cost $15/year, but they have good tech support and high security.

11-23-2002, 12:31 PM	#14
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	Most registrars have the same security features, registrar lock, auto renewals, great support, etc.. AND can do it for $8 just fine. The $15 doesn't mean shit, except more profit for the registrar. The registrars that have difficulty with the fraudulent transfers are usually the higher priced ones like Network Solutions. __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

11-23-2002, 03:25 PM	#15
archer Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 1,721	directnic is hardly the be all and end all. i had a problem with a domain being stolen and directnic was the registrar. what i did was put together my ownership history of the domain... when registered/rewnewed etc. and sent it off to directnic.... they said that the 'domain thief' would have to prove that he'd legally obtained the domain... ie have his own ownership record. and then i simply screamed blue murder..... calling, leaving messages, constant emails.... etc. i had the domain back in a week. __________________ Looking to promote uncut cock? Check out Uncut Cash. It rocks.

11-23-2002, 04:17 PM	#16
Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	Get a fucking lawyer and threaten to sue everyone involved. It worked for me once when we got a name stolen at Netsol.