What are good places to live these days - comparing Arizona, Nevada and CA?

**~Ray** · 04-03-2009, 03:11 AM

prices in Vegas are down 40 to 60 %

**Mutt** · 04-03-2009, 03:16 AM

Vegas appears to be a sinkhole as far as real estate prices go. Arizona isn't much better but I gotta think it's a better long term investment than Vegas - there are great deals to be had in Arizona on houses and condos, if you're looking back a year or 2 ago at what they were selling for they look like steals - but are they at the bottom or near the bottom yet - who knows. how long before values start heading back up and at what rate - who knows.

**Roby** · 04-03-2009, 03:41 AM

as for me i prefer CA good place..

**AntiDrama** · 04-03-2009, 07:15 AM

Tucson, AZ is like Cali without all the expense. Beatiful... great temp, etc.

**CarlosTheGaucho** · 04-03-2009, 07:26 AM

I'll have to explore Arizona a bit more, could be a good place to stay.

**Wizzo** · 04-03-2009, 07:38 AM

Navada has no state income tax...

**DrChango** · 04-03-2009, 08:28 AM

Originally posted by AntiDrama

Tucson, AZ is like Cali without all the expense. Beatiful... great temp, etc.

speaking as a Tucsonan, it has beautiful views and great weather, but the traffic problems are getting out of hand. The sitting is around the one million mark but the roads were not intended to handle that (all the old people that live here voted down the light rail initiative years ago)

**jay23** · 04-03-2009, 08:30 AM

Originally posted by CarlosTheGaucho

What would be a good place to live in AZ?

Let's hear your experience.

I live in Phoenix in area called Biltmore and love it.

**Diezel Jim** · 04-03-2009, 08:42 AM

Carlos,

Unless you enjoy scorching hot temps and traffic, stay away from Phoenix and Tucson.
I've lived in the Southwest during summertime, and it can be brutal. "Dry" heat, my ass. (Who cares about humidity when it's 115?)

But if you worship the relentless sun and enjoy traffic, Arizona is perfect.

California is your most viable option: Plenty of fine places -- warm and affordable -- on the outskirts of L.A. and San Diego. I live northwest of Los Angeles; the area is safe, clean, mild temperatures and traffic is average.

Just sayin'.

**CarlosTheGaucho** · 04-03-2009, 08:47 AM

Originally posted by Wizzo

Navada has no state income tax...

The jew in me says:

**CarlosTheGaucho** · 04-03-2009, 08:50 AM

Originally posted by Diezel Jim

Carlos,

Unless you enjoy scorching hot temps and traffic, stay away from Phoenix and Tucson.
I've lived in the Southwest during summertime, and it can be brutal. "Dry" heat, my ass. (Who cares about humidity when it's 115?)

But if you worship the relentless sun and enjoy traffic, Arizona is perfect.

California is your most viable option: Plenty of fine places -- warm and affordable -- on the outskirts of L.A. and San Diego. I live northwest of Los Angeles; the area is safe, clean, mild temperatures and traffic is average.

Just sayin'.

I hear that, I only need an airport so I can easily travel.

Might be I could stay in Vegas for a bit and then buy some real estate in Arizona.

LA is a cult place and everything, but I don't want to come there, unless I have someone wanting me there.

**JC-OCCash** · 04-03-2009, 09:22 AM

Whats up brother! As you may or may not know....I was born and raised in California...High School in San Diego and 8 years in LA.....I went to University of Arizona in Tucson and spent five years there....I have now lived in Vegas for 5 years and wouldnt be anywhere else...Hit me up when you get serious about this and I will go over the pro's and con's of all three choices.....Hope you are well!

**MaDalton** · 04-03-2009, 10:27 AM

at least at the moment the weather is fantastic in Phoenix. ;)
but i would not want to be here at 115 degrees

**junkiefans** · 04-03-2009, 10:37 AM

Casa Grande, Tucson, and Wilcox in Arizona are all good places..wilcox is small country like but does have a lot of services

**CarlosTheGaucho** · 04-03-2009, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by JC-OCCash

Whats up brother! As you may or may not know....I was born and raised in California...High School in San Diego and 8 years in LA.....I went to University of Arizona in Tucson and spent five years there....I have now lived in Vegas for 5 years and wouldnt be anywhere else...Hit me up when you get serious about this and I will go over the pro's and con's of all three choices.....Hope you are well!

Sure, I hope to see you in the fall around here, I have a couple ideas what to do already

**d-null** · 04-03-2009, 02:30 PM

shifting the topic a bit, what are some good places to live in Czech? or maybe some other European countries like Italy, Spain, Romania, Austria.... Europe seems like such a nice laid back place to live. Tradition and architecture and culture... cool people....

**onlymovies** · 04-03-2009, 02:33 PM

There's no comparison with your choices: California tops for lifestlye.

But, the downside to California is they tax the hell out of you personally. On a business level, it's just stupid to incorporate here in California.

This state (CA) has become ultra gay on a financial level.

**CarlosTheGaucho** · 04-03-2009, 09:44 PM

Originally posted by d-null

shifting the topic a bit, what are some good places to live in Czech? or maybe some other European countries like Italy, Spain, Romania, Austria.... Europe seems like such a nice laid back place to live. Tradition and architecture and culture... cool people....

It's a hole here, no matter if you're in Prague which is somehow cosmopolitan, taxes are killing you, services don't work, gas, real estate, accessories, cars, ISP services are extremely expensive. People can't have fun, most of them are mediocre ignorant assholes suffering from the post socialistic be like the others syndroma, only girls here are cute and fun.

I can find more interesting ways how to spend money, than to give it to idiots, who are playing with the sheep mentality here and overprice everything.

I save about 30 pct. of my monthly fixed costs if I live in US (talking rent, gas, ISP etc.), plus much less hassle with everything, as services do work and you can relax in your free time, people are more open and easier to deal with.

I feel like a renegade, a rebel, and I know I just behave openly and with candor - something that's not in vogue here.

I'll be glad to come to Europe to see the "culture", but I'm sick of living here, as for other places

The only place I could live is Germany, as I wouldn't have issues with the language and I like the German mentality, sense of duty etc. - but look what they did with Germany - immigration, taxation, all kinds of bullshit - great place to stay but not a good place to do business.

Then I love Scandinavia, I was in Denmark, Sweden and Norway, and would prefer Denmark or Norway but then again - nice places but taxation to death and everything super expensive, I'll rather spend there holidays.

**CarlosTheGaucho** · 04-03-2009, 09:46 PM

Originally posted by onlymovies

There's no comparison with your choices: California tops for lifestlye.

But, the downside to California is they tax the hell out of you personally. On a business level, it's just stupid to incorporate here in California.

This state (CA) has become ultra gay on a financial level.

That's what they say, I'm afraid I would feel a little bit like in EU if in California in some aspects.

**Loch** · 04-03-2009, 09:53 PM

Vegas, you can buy just about anything with little to no money and lol
They are almost giving away houses there ATM

And no income tax i believe

**brassmonkey** · 04-03-2009, 10:01 PM

Originally posted by MaDalton

at least at the moment the weather is fantastic in Phoenix. ;)
but i would not want to be here at 115 degrees

it gets hot here but we dont have 2 worry about our houses blowing over

**GrouchyAdmin** · 04-03-2009, 10:03 PM

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**Loch** · 04-03-2009, 10:06 PM

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that shit just makes me wanna move right away.....

if i dident live in one of the most beautiful places on the planet of course

**GrouchyAdmin** · 04-03-2009, 10:08 PM

Originally posted by Loch

if i dident live in one of the most beautiful places on the planet of course

Greed or Beauty, take your pick.

**530media** · 04-03-2009, 10:43 PM

I love AZ, I moved from LA and am shocked at how nice it is out in Phx.

Price wise? I live on the mountain, big house, heated pool, my backyard is a mountain... and I pay less then I paid for my 800sqfoot condo in LA.

Also, if you dont like TAX dont move anywhere NEAR LA.

**JaneB** · 04-03-2009, 11:32 PM

I say AZ. I live in Tempe and it is a cool city. The prices for houses are not to crazy right now. It is actually a great time to buy property. Sky Harbor airport is pretty close to Tempe, Scottsdale, Chandler, etc.

**CarlosTheGaucho** · 04-04-2009, 01:18 AM

Originally posted by GrouchyAdmin

Greed or Beauty, take your pick.

**jimmycastor** · 04-04-2009, 02:20 AM

you going to tell immigration your a smut peddler and pulling your 1 mio epassporte on the table or how you gonna get your permanent visa ?

just curious to know...as european i can say, and i made a longer trip to all of the three , for the climate i loved arizona but if you expect social life, culture , fun that you can compare with other bigger european city there is no other choice then los angeles or san fransisco, sure, if you dont care about that and are in front 24 /7 on your computer, it doesnt matter

vegas gets boring after 3 days if your not addicted to gambling

**gmr324** · 04-04-2009, 05:38 AM

I heard Santa Barbara has a great climate and never heard any complaints from friends who lived there

**Loch** · 04-04-2009, 05:39 AM

Originally posted by GrouchyAdmin

Greed or Beauty, take your pick.

Lifestyle mate lifestyle

**CarlosTheGaucho** · 04-04-2009, 10:04 AM

Originally posted by jimmycastor

you going to tell immigration your a smut peddler and pulling your 1 mio epassporte on the table or how you gonna get your permanent visa ?

just curious to know...as european i can say, and i made a longer trip to all of the three , for the climate i loved arizona but if you expect social life, culture , fun that you can compare with other bigger european city there is no other choice then los angeles or san fransisco, sure, if you dont care about that and are in front 24 /7 on your computer, it doesnt matter

vegas gets boring after 3 days if your not addicted to gambling

I won't post anything public about anything official.

Anyway, I only use computer as a work tool, well sometimes to educate myself, but I mainly praise a good eye to eye discussion.

As for gambling, I won't post anything public.

**After Shock Media** · 04-04-2009, 10:11 AM

You need to highly consider Oregon. Weather is not really that bad. Very beautiful area. Pretty damn low state tax and no sales tax (which is the hidden one that fucks you in many places - with no deductions). Plus we all know your stance on potheads.

**~Ray** · 04-04-2009, 10:16 AM

also look into Austin, Texas

no state tax

**frank7799** · 04-04-2009, 11:16 AM

I´d prefer a ranch in New Mexico. Breeding horses and so on.

**TurboAngel** · 04-04-2009, 11:27 AM

You can come here to NC, I know it's not on your list but I love it here.

**CarlosTheGaucho** · 04-04-2009, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by JaneB

I say AZ. I live in Tempe and it is a cool city. The prices for houses are not to crazy right now. It is actually a great time to buy property. Sky Harbor airport is pretty close to Tempe, Scottsdale, Chandler, etc.

Can I come for a coffee someday?

Uncle from the East?

**CarlosTheGaucho** · 04-04-2009, 07:34 PM

Originally posted by After Shock Media

You need to highly consider Oregon. Weather is not really that bad. Very beautiful area. Pretty damn low state tax and no sales tax (which is the hidden one that fucks you in many places - with no deductions). Plus we all know your stance on potheads.

Beautiful place for sure, yeah northwest is sure incredible.

Ever since I watched the Twin Peaks series as a kid, I always wanted to visit Northwest.

So many great places but only one to settle down.

Another place someone recommended to me is Pittsburgh, a little more expensive, but cultured, with lot of coeds and a good bar scene is what I heard, and I could actually see some NHL regularly.

What are good places to live these days - comparing Arizona, Nevada and CA?

What are good places to live these days - comparing Arizona, Nevada and CA?

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