Firstly comparing porn videos with the mainstream TV is like comparing a cow with a chicken, the justification is they both live on a farm. Your justification is people watch both. They don't compare in any way and putting porn alongside TV shows how far you stretch to make a weak point.

Most people watch TV for hours, most porn viewers watch for 20 minutes.

They interrupt TV programs with adverts, you can't do that with a porn scene.

The pool of advertisers for TV is wide and has money to "brand" their product. It's also one part of an advertising strategy for many of the advertisers. They have adverts on many other places. They are hoping that when someone decides to buy a car, whiskey or burger or what ever. They will choose their product.

The pool for Internet advertising is small and could be shrinking with the recession. For Internet Adult products it's even smaller and the companies can't afford to "brand" they need sales to pay for adverts.

However if the Internet wakes up to the fact that if they take the business away from the advertisers the Tubes will fail. Torrents I'm not sure about, but if a similar law was adopted by the US the Torrent sites would lose those adverts.

Good side track, but still a side track.

Where do you get your information?? From an AVN article??

These are civil cases. There is no burden of proof. If somebody wants to have your IP you are not notified about it and can't defend yourself.

Fuck your profitability! You know there are more important things in life than just making money, things like personal integrity?

This is Sweden, not some backward country like Iran or USA. Laws are here to protect my rights as an individual.

Fuck IPRED and fuck you for supporting it. Go make some invisible join links instead.

things like personal integrity?

You don't give a fuck about personal integrity. If you did you would not be supporting theft.

Profit? What are you on about. People are losing jobs, companies and homes because others are stealing their work. Where is your personal integrity when it costs others so much?

The people stealing don't care about personal integrity. They only care that others will pay for the property they are stealing for free. Because if others stopped paying they would find it harder to steal. They are parasites living off of others.

What about my rights to have a law to protect my rights to not have parasites steal from me?

And while you cost me and others money you are stealing. Now; :321GFY

People losing jobs and homes? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I am sure Britney Spears will somehow survive without a private jet.

There are laws to protect your rights as a producer. If you want you can go after those who steal from you.

If your Audi is stolen should you be allowed to get personal information of EVERY other Audi owner so that you can find yours?

the quantity of watching is not important. However if you look at the tube site you are complaining about people a lot more people are watching those 20 minute videos than are watching the tv shows (streaming).

your so fucking right it not like tube site break videos into parts and release them in groups

http://www.tube8.com/hardcore/sunny-...part-i-/77864/
http://www.tube8.com/hardcore/sunny-...art-ii-/77870/

flipping between those parts result in another banner show for the advertisers

IDIOT.

add the pause ad that happens whenever you pause the video and you have tons of advertising oppertunities.


branding bugs don't interupt the content, they are intergrated in the content.

you are a moron, branding is more prevelant in porn then in mainstream
models brand their names (advertising opp 1)
tube sites brand their names (advertising opp 2)
torrent sites brand their site ( advertising opp 3)


which means people are going to go to the cheapest most afforable form of advertising that is effective. So you buy ads surrounding the video, or you buy branding bugs in the video. As long as you sell them cheaper than what the tube sites are charging you make money. That being said. IF you sell a for 3k exclusive and that gets a 6182824 views on one tube site

http://www.tube8.com/anal/french-girl-anal/1007/

then your cpm for a branding bug only need to be 49 cents. even the cheapest tube site doesn't sell ads that cheap

or CCP like you will realize they can make more money turning their content into traffic sources.

Great news:

Two Swedes arrested in file sharing raid


France to Block The Pirate Bay, Disconnect File-Sharers

:thumbsup

with all luck they will get as severe a penalty as this guy

http://torrentfreak.com/mpa-disappoi...-court-090405/

Who cares if it's 30%, or 50% or 90% that fileshare? It isn't hurting your business just like it isn't hurting the movie industry, just like it isn't hurting the music industry, software industry, or anything......

And not like you haven't file shared... and you still buy shit.

Huh? This isn't 2006 anymore where they broke even with Youtube, actually they grew a 6% profit margin. This is 2008, where they make several hundred million a year with YouTube and the costs, with staff & bandwidth is about 5 million a month. That means they have 150 million more a year to spend on other shit...

They aren't losing money anymore... We are talking about Google... the kings of monetization.

All the whiners whining about how much they made back in the 90's seem to be the loudest whiners about tubes on GFY I've noticed. Who cares! Get your head down and get to work on it!

No, with all luck they will be assraped by Russians or Arabs in prison :thumbsup

No it's not people like Britney Spears who lose their jobs and I'm sure you know this. It's the ordinary people at the bottom. Nice to see how far your personal integrity goes so parasites can continue to feed off the ones who pay.

As for the Audi example, seriously did you think that one through? If someone steals my car and leaves his address, yes I should be allowed to get his address.

Your replies say a lot.

Which is why the world has gone into recession.

Got any proof Youtube makes money?

i think that it can still be found some way to make that so legitimate...

an ip address is not equal to a physical address

the RIAA has sued a printer and a dead person

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02...ead/print.html

the problem is that the real offender in those cases was some hacker who accessed the network and the accused was simply an innocent victem too.

It would be the equivalent of government getting access to all your banking information
and if they find that little john stole his dad's credit card to access your site, you going to jail for selling porn to minors.

So if the pirates stopped stealing there would be no problem.

Your stance is so stupid it's only pirates hanging on by their finger nails who use it. But I'm sure you've heard this said on so many pirates boards you think it holds water.

Innocent people go to prison for all sorts of crimes. You're arguing because policing is not infallible we should not police at all. Stupid beyond belief. I'm sure if a crime was committed against you and the police told you they were not investigating the crime because there was a slight chance they get the wrong person you would rightly be pissed off.

Send me your address and I will send a couple of heavies around to thump you and we can see if you think the police should ignore it. :1orglaugh

either you are a world class moron or you are deliberately being stupid because you know you are wrong.

We are not talking about stopping the investigation of a crime, we are talking about taking away the fundamental right to be considered innocent until proven guilty.

Under the old laws, the copyright holder would have to prove that you were actually the infringer before they had a right to violate your privacy

under the new law, they get your info first.

See the difference you idiot.

all i am saying is that the RIAA should fix their identifying process so that can tell the differnence between an actual infringer and a print server that got hacked was only a relay BEFORE they have a right to bust down your door, take you to court and force you to spend 100K defending yourself.

INSTEAD of just changing the law, so they can use their screwed up data to harrass more innocent people.

I'm sure it's much more than that

So pirates need to stop stealing and the problem will go away.

What a court ask for is of course up to the courts. Judges sign search warrants every day on the word of a police officer. Yes it's a police officer, but I'm sure the judge will ask for some proof. Which will be easy to provide. Ex amount of traffic downloaded this pirated content via this ISP which we would like access to ONLY THIS TRAFFICS INFORMATION.

Yes mistakes happen, if the pirates stop stealing there will be no need for the mistakes. But the pirates don't care how many innocent people get hurt, so long as they can carry on stealing.

Pure comedy.

Only Markham has the patience....

You proved you are a total idiot with your invisible join links but I will try to explain this to you anyway.

Your IP is requested by a private person because he has?evidence? that you have committed a crime. Judge only takes his ?evidence? into account. Your are never notified and can?t defend yourself. First time you even hear about it is when you get a letter where you are asked to pay whatever sum plaintiff thinks is reasonable.

You can now for the first time appeal to the court and try to get them to hear your side of the story IF you have the money for a lawyer. If you don?t have any money or not enough money all you can do is accept and pay even if you are innocent.

And your ?mistakes happen? argument is simply unbelievable. It is better to have 1000 guilty people get away than have just one wrongly accused and imprisoned. That is the basis of any state governed by law and first thing you learn at any law education. But for you making money is more important. Please move to USA or Iran because you are embarrassment for Europe and democracy and civilized society.

more than 30% if you count china.

Yes but you have to put down idiots.

Donnie if the pirates are so concerned they need to stop stealing. Concern for the innocent is a two way street. Or don't they care and expect us to care?

We need to see how the information is used and the course taken by the the people concerned.

The proof the free loaders know they are stealing is shown in the drop of traffic, so maybe it's already working.

Do you even realize how stupid you are? Your ?arguments? are something you would expect from a 10-yearold. Do you have any formal education at all?

Pirates to stop steeling? How about all murderess stop murdering so no innocent people are ever imprisoned? How about all drug dealers stop selling drugs so no innocent people are ever harassed?

How would you feel if I came to your house and told you I suspect you have murdered someone and I think you should go to jail for 10 years. And if you can?t prove you haven?t done it, you go to jail.

Please stick to your magic join links and leave these issues to someone else?

ok so if i setup a petition that made it you guilty of selling porn to minors if little Johnnie stole his dads credit card and used to access your site.

You would sign such a petition demanding the government come after you.
You would tell all your existing members to sign a petition like that too