New Galleries Feedback wanted. Contains pics of Naked Ladies

[Cherry7]

Please feel free to vent ...

http://www.cinemaerotique.com/CEA/prisoner

http://www.cinemaerotique.com/CEA/models/

http://www.cinemaerotique.com/CEA/dancer/

http://www.cinemaerotique.com/CEA/drugged/

http://www.cinemaerotique.com/CEA/

http://www.cinemaerotique.com/CEA/butterfly/


Each gallery relates to an erotic story film of ours and has embedded trailer...

Feel free to join the program

http://www.cinemaerotique.com/affiliattes001.html

[Carmine Raguso]

If your objective was to see how fast a surfer can close a window after clicking a link? Then your galleries should perform outstanding.

[Bored]

Not bad, fairly typical. Almost spammy tough (your post)

[PSD CSS XHTML]

The header is horrible. That text is all bunched together and I really can't read any of it. Surfer eyes will gloss right over it, and since the gallery is exactly the same as the tour, the tour is pretty bad too.

Also, "From only just $20" makes no sense. The words are English, but the order they are placed is all wrong.

[Cherry7]

All pretty negative....

I have in the back of my mind that most porn is dull and uncreative, and the websites all look the same, and as we are making sales, growing and being successfull, maybe we are on the right track?

[PSD CSS XHTML]

All pretty negative....

I have in the back of my mind that most porn is dull and uncreative, and the websites all look the same, and as we are making sales, growing and being successfull, maybe we are on the right track?

I'm pretty sure everyone would say the same thing. "we're doing great and growing everyday" etc etc.. but I guarantee a quality design would double that sites numbers.

And, I'm not suggesting big flashy graphics. The site is a mess as it is and needs to be organized and optimized.

[Cherry7]

I am not saying some people here do not have skills....

they have but in the internet and marketing and busines,

but not in Photography, video which is mostly terrible...so I doubt if

their design skills are any better. Porn websites all look they were done by the same designed, who liked plastic.

no originality or creativity.

So we want it to be different, that is our audience. Not the regular porn guy.

If you want to convince so example of what you think is a better site...That might be of interest.

[PSD CSS XHTML]

I am not saying some people here do not have skills....

they have but in the internet and marketing and busines,

but not in Photography, video which is mostly terrible...so I doubt if

their design skills are any better. Porn websites all look they were done by the same designed, who liked plastic.

no originality or creativity.

So we want it to be different, that is our audience. Not the regular porn guy.

If you want to convince so example of what you think is a better site...That might be of interest.

Pick any 5 random sites, and 4 will be better than yours.
You asked for feedback on the galleries, not the content.

As I said, your videos may be great, and I'm sure some surfers will fall in live with them and find a way to signup. My point is that your site is shitty enough to make people leave without ever discovering the content.

And your flash video on the tour is horrible. I have no idea what kind of video you shoot after watching that preview. It told me nothing about the site or the content.

[Cherry7]

Thats your opinion, and you can keep it.

I do not like 99% of the adult websites for the reasons I gave. I have no reason to think you know what you are talking about as you refuse to be concrete and talk about what you think is good.

One think is true that if you listen to advice from people on this board you would go bankrupt very quickly.

So if you want a discussion about good photography / design / movies Im up for it. Propose your examples...

[PSD CSS XHTML]

So, now I have to do research for you and prove to you that your site is a mess? That's absurd. If you don't want feedback, why did you ask for it?

I'm not in this discussion to be a dick towards you. I'm giving you my genuine impression of your site. If you were really concerned with it doing the absolute best it could, then you would be open to my thoughts.

Just take one of my points.. the preview video on your tour. What is the point? It tells me nothing about the site and doesn't even give me an idea of your content, unless all your videos are just quick edits with goofy, pointless sound effects.

[cherrylula]

the only thing I noticed is all those empty seats...

[Cherry7]

I am not asking you do research. I asking you to give me an example of what you think is good.

For example if you say a photograph is bad, I ask you for an example of one you think is good. If you then show me a photograph that is well exposed, well composed, in focus and with interesting content, I know that you have knowledge about photography.

Now if you show me a dull boring run of the mill porn site and tell me its great...I will understand, or if you show me an original and exciting website, I will understand and go away and talk about it with my designer.

[Cherry7]

the only thing I noticed is all those empty seats...

Yeah, we always talked about that...

Maybe one guy in a mac?

[JaneB]

I am not asking you do research. I asking you to give me an example of what you think is good.

For example if you say a photograph is bad, I ask you for an example of one you think is good. If you then show me a photograph that is well exposed, well composed, in focus and with interesting content, I know that you have knowledge about photography.

Now if you show me a dull boring run of the mill porn site and tell me its great...I will understand, or if you show me an original and exciting website, I will understand and go away and talk about it with my designer.

You always ask for opinions and then get pissed when you do not hear what you want to hear. Most porn sites do not look alike and they are not boring. A website can be unique without looking like shit. Frankly nothing you are shooting is unique. If you want to see a good unique visit kink.com.

[alexchechs]

I would look into doign a bit more type work. it all feels kinda sloppy and no real identity to it.

[qxm]

first time in my life that a set of galleries make my balls feel puzzled ...... mission accomplished?

[Joshua G]

no large natural breasts

[kesha1]

Isn't it a lil slow, too?

[Iron Fist]

The pics of the galleries make no sense... I clicked on "Drugged" and i see two girls taking a shower, and two girls in bed, and some picture of people wearing masks, and a hip shot of a nicely trimmed pussy...

Am I missing something here?

[Cherry7]

You always ask for opinions and then get pissed when you do not hear what you want to hear. Most porn sites do not look alike and they are not boring. A website can be unique without looking like shit. Frankly nothing you are shooting is unique. If you want to see a good unique visit kink.com.

Not pissed, but a person is a fool who takes advice from people who cannot make a rational argument. As witnessed here by the absence of examples.

And your comments show your lack of judgement.

Here are examples of some porn websites
http://www.jessiecoxxx.com/tour/index.html
http://www.cardinalvices.com/works/18teen/

To me these are uninteresting, unoriginal and mass produced....

In fack that is exactly what most sites are made from a template...

http://positivedesignspro.com/portfo...net/index.html


The example you give is also funny in the fact the Kink.com is a collection of websites (not one) all looking exactly the same.
http://www.hogtied.com/site/shoots.jsp?c=1
The website itself is standard boring stuff but the thing that strike so straight away is the photography is so poor. After all the website is a way of presenting and showing photo and videos.


Kink.com

Fetish site try a little bit to create an atmosphere. But here the photo is underexposed, has no lighting.
Not to say that the model is not very attractive.


Here atmosphere is created by lighting and the exposure is correct

So our site is different from 90% of porn sites by the fact we can take a picture.

You say we are not doing anything unique, and maybe there are others out there trying to do what we do. But I havn't come across them and your examples prove your lack of knowledge. (That is why most never want to come up with examples)

[Adultnet]

nice ..

[PSD CSS XHTML]

I have no idea why, but I will try to explain one more time.

Your content is not the issue.

Your decision to have a "unique design" is not the issue.

The site is a mess that makes no attempt to sell your great content.
Let's assume your use of the script font in the header is amazing. The best font ever.
None of that matters with the broken english, not to mention, the complete lack of white space makes most of the copy illegible.

For fuck sake, some of those galleries you posted don't even have a Page Title.

I can respect the fact that you want to be unique and creative, but your execution is awful.

If your content is so amazing in your eyes, how can you not think that it deserves a better platform to present it to your potential customers?

[raven1083]

looking cool to me!

[Cherry7]

I have no idea why, but I will try to explain one more time.

Your content is not the issue.

Your decision to have a "unique design" is not the issue.

The site is a mess that makes no attempt to sell your great content.
Let's assume your use of the script font in the header is amazing. The best font ever.
None of that matters with the broken english, not to mention, the complete lack of white space makes most of the copy illegible.

For fuck sake, some of those galleries you posted don't even have a Page Title.

I can respect the fact that you want to be unique and creative, but your execution is awful.

If your content is so amazing in your eyes, how can you not think that it deserves a better platform to present it to your potential customers?

But you cannot propose one site that you think makes your point ?

[PSD CSS XHTML]

But you cannot propose one site that you think makes your point ?

You are being a bit dense.

Your site makes my point. It's a mess.

But, I will indulge this a bit further.

Let's take one of the sites YOU gave as an example..

http://www.jessiecoxxx.com/tour/index.html

You may not like the "look" but that is just the wrapper. It can be changed to anything.
The reason the site works is that it is well organized. They are very clear about what they offer..

30 seconds scanning that tour and I know..
It's all exclusive content.
It's an all teen site.
They have a blog.
There's message boards and cam shows.
The previews give a taste of the full videos.

I got NONE of that from your site. NOTHING at all actually.

and again, you may hate the design of that site and I can respect that, but it really is just the wrapper. True web designers and developers understand the flow of a surfers eye over a site. They understand how to create a "call to action" with the surfer. Your site also has NONE of that.

I am officially done with this now, so good luck. My best advice to you would be to just open up your mind a bit. When you ask for feedback, TAKE IT!

[Cherry7]

You are being a bit dense.

Your site makes my point. It's a mess.

But, I will indulge this a bit further.

Let's take one of the sites YOU gave as an example..

http://www.jessiecoxxx.com/tour/index.html

You may not like the "look" but that is just the wrapper. It can be changed to anything.
The reason the site works is that it is well organized. They are very clear about what they offer..

30 seconds scanning that tour and I know..
It's all exclusive content.
It's an all teen site.
They have a blog.
There's message boards and cam shows.
The previews give a taste of the full videos.

I got NONE of that from your site. NOTHING at all actually.

and again, you may hate the design of that site and I can respect that, but it really is just the wrapper. True web designers and developers understand the flow of a surfers eye over a site. They understand how to create a "call to action" with the surfer. Your site also has NONE of that.

I am officially done with this now, so good luck. My best advice to you would be to just open up your mind a bit. When you ask for feedback, TAKE IT!

Well No. Because if you think that is good you are wrong. It says that it is a plastic site full of bought in content. A teen site if you think teen is under 30. Of women who were chosen because they were available at the time the lazy photographer wanted to shoot and not because they were the most beautiful.
You have one busines model followed by most of you sheep. That is why your industry has falling sales.
Show you something new and original and you just pour scorn on it.

We take advice from people who can make a good case for doing so...

[Mutt]

Well No. Because if you think that is good you are wrong. It says that it is a plastic site full of bought in content. A teen site if you think teen is under 30. Of women who were chosen because they were available at the time the lazy photographer wanted to shoot and not because they were the most beautiful.
You have one busines model followed by most of you sheep. That is why your industry has falling sales.
Show you something new and original and you just pour scorn on it.

We take advice from people who can make a good case for doing so...

Jessie Cox is a real teenager, a college student and she posts on GFY as herself. She does webcam shows from her own bedroom. It doesn't get as real as that.

don't talk about things you don't know about. There are plenty of fake teen solo sites but Jessie Cox isn't one of them.

[Jay-Rock]

Jessie is the real deal we are getting ready for Pheonix forum right now and shes ready to meet her affiliates in person.

[PSD CSS XHTML]

Well No. Because if you think that is good you are wrong. It says that it is a plastic site full of bought in content. A teen site if you think teen is under 30. Of women who were chosen because they were available at the time the lazy photographer wanted to shoot and not because they were the most beautiful.
You have one busines model followed by most of you sheep. That is why your industry has falling sales.
Show you something new and original and you just pour scorn on it.

We take advice from people who can make a good case for doing so...

Your content is original, but your site is fucking garbage. You are clueless about selling online. This is YOUR industry too, by the way.

You have serious reading comprehension problems.
I said that the design is just a wrapper. A lot of styles including ones that haven't even been created yet could be used to wrap that site. The reason it's effective is the layout and the presentation of the content and navigation. This is where your site fails miserably. Not with the content itself. Do you understand that yet?

You have proven one thing with this thread. You have no clue what you are doing with the web side of your business.. and your "designer" that you referenced earlier in this thread is just a case of the blind leading the blind.

[Cherry7]

Your content is original, but your site is fucking garbage. You are clueless about selling online. This is YOUR industry too, by the way.

You have serious reading comprehension problems.
I said that the design is just a wrapper. A lot of styles including ones that haven't even been created yet could be used to wrap that site. The reason it's effective is the layout and the presentation of the content and navigation. This is where your site fails miserably. Not with the content itself. Do you understand that yet?

You have proven one thing with this thread. You have no clue what you are doing with the web side of your business.. and your "designer" that you referenced earlier in this thread is just a case of the blind leading the blind.

You are a person the thinks you win an argument by shouting larger. You again fail to produce any evidence to back up what you say.

I don't see it as my industry, as I do not find 99% of porn erotic or of interest. What we do is here because of the majority of society view sex is a disgusting act, (as porn taps into the forbidden aspect of sex). We see what we are doing is moving erotic into the mainstream , finding new audiences that find sex natural and enjoyable.

That is why your frozen mindset of plastic porn and US techno marketing babble is not for us.

You say are site fails but you have no evidence, just belief.

I have the evidence and at the moment our site is growing and has been scince we had this design.

As a lot people on these boards, maybe because of your youth or lack of knowledge, you fling insults about. I would point out that this has no effect on how I view the issue, but it does reflect badly on yourself.