i hate to ask, but why do MACs perform smoother than PCs?

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  • TheDoc
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jul 2001
    • 13827
    #46
    Originally posted by eroticsexxx
    Really now...A cheaper box? Where are you going to get the MacOSX from...unless you're a MAC developer? Torrents?

    Making a stable hackintosh isn't as simple as grabbing any box and following a few steps. Oftentimes you're still stuck with a particular hardware config. Even the guys and gals over at OSx86 have a recommended HCL database. I built one and was not impressed.

    Running emulators (VMware, Pear PC, et al) is not a panacea to installing OSX and having it run properly.

    The point still remains, you can take osx, put it on a normal pc, and the machine will bootup and down, at the same rate as a Mac box - or damn close to it.

    The speed at which the OS actually performs, wasn't brought into question. I expect issues with installing an off OS onto a PC. Even linux does it, from one box to the next, it's a different setup all the time. That stuff is just expected.
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      • TheDoc
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Jul 2001
        • 13827
        #47
        Originally posted by Gerco
        I did this a little while back, but I'm to lazy to get todays price... so deal with it... But, here's a little wake up to all those yelling about how expensive a mac is...


        Ok, this is just getting stupid. Lets compare price directly from Dell and Apple shall we? I used the closes configuration so this could be fair...

        Ok, So starting with Apple
        Configuration
        twin 3.2GHz Quad Xeon
        2 Gig Ram (Up to 32gb in Machine)
        320 Gig HD (Could have up to 4 drives in machine)
        1 16x superdrive
        Video card, base included ATI HD 2600 XT 256MB
        Apple 20' Flat display
        Cost=$4,998.00

        DELL
        Twin 3.16 Quad Xeon x2
        2GB Ram (Only shows up to 4 available in configuration)
        320GB HD (can have up to 3)
        1 16x dvd burner
        Video card Base, included 256MB PCIe x16 nVidia Quadro FX570
        20" ultrasharp flatscreen (Almost = to Apples display)
        Starting Price $5,202
        Instant Savings $524
        Subtotal $4,678

        By my math that a savings of 320 bucks buying the Dell over the apple... But wait..That was AFTER taking 524 bucks OFF dells price cause they happen to have a coupon right now. OK. The the actual price before applying any specials, the Dells more..

        It can hold less drives, Hold less memory. The processors are slower...

        Shall I go on? If your going to start telling people how much more expensive the apples are you should try to build a base machine that actually somewhat compares to the apple.
        That's a huge price difference seeming both boxes are pretty much ready to go out of the box. Once you drop the crap dell machines and move into hand built machines (something you can't really do with a Mac) - the difference really stands out.

        That $500 could double the ram, case size, and add a drive.. or bump the board up, and add in a second video card.

        The prices... I can build about two PC's for the price of a Mac... or double the speed of the PC - Which $500 on the just dell, would damn near double it's speed.
        ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
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          • master_design
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2006
            • 772
            #48
            Mac Rocks!

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              • potter
                Confirmed User
                • Dec 2004
                • 6559
                #49
                Originally posted by TheDoc
                The prices... I can build about two PC's for the price of a Mac... or double the speed of the PC - Which $500 on the just dell, would damn near double it's speed.
                Not if you use the same hardware. Damn, I've had this conversation so many times with people.

                Here is a quick basic explanation without going into too much detail to waste my time.

                The MOBO Dell uses in their computer: a $70 POS
                The MOBO Apple uses in their computer: Intel's best top of the line server MOBO $900

                Now, if you go to newegg.com and custom build a PC. Using the same top of the line hardware with the exact same specs as the apple. It'll cost the same. And you really have to get detailed with the specs Most people see "Dual Core 3.0Ghz" and think they're all the same. There are Dual Core 3.0Ghz Intel CPUs that range in price from $200-$900.

                It's not hard to understand, you just have to open your eyes a little and understand the "base stats" for the machines they show are not similar in any way and you are comparing apples to oranges.

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                  • Janak
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 483
                    #50
                    Apple hardware QC.
                    My stats here.

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                      • collegeboobies
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 3644
                        #51
                        50 reason why not

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                          • SomeCreep
                            :glugglug
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 26118
                            #52
                            Originally posted by HELMY
                            I've been a PC user for the longest time (prior to my beloved Amiga).

                            Got a Macbook laptop for my wife's bday recently - and I love how when you open/close the lid, the machine turns on/off almost instantly (no warm-up like a PC).

                            What's the secret? does the instant on/off experience apply to mac machines running WinXP? (i know, i know)
                            It's all in the coding. Macs are just made better.

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                              • Grapesoda
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 46238
                                #53
                                Originally posted by HELMY
                                I've been a PC user for the longest time (prior to my beloved Amiga).

                                Got a Macbook laptop for my wife's bday recently - and I love how when you open/close the lid, the machine turns on/off almost instantly (no warm-up like a PC).

                                What's the secret? does the instant on/off experience apply to mac machines running WinXP? (i know, i know)
                                RISC processing. reduced instruction set

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