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The problem is at this point they may be working on a known k/p board but whats next? Random mailing of links etc? Will the Feds abuse this approach. I would guess yes. |
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Yea, that's pretty fucked up. Too many ways for this system to be abused.
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They raided Google Bot?
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They should use any means at there disposal to take these creeps off the face of the planet.
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Agreed. This hits a new low of pathetic for the agency. How fucking lazy do government workers have to become? |
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Entrapment = setting up automatic popup windows or automatic downloads of illegal materials without the surfer's knowledge or awareness Not entrapment = facts of this case |
Seems like a lot of potential for abuse. Someone could get the URL and then post it on boards in a text link as something else just to fuck people up.
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I believe it's possible innocent people would click the link, how many 'tards do you know that would say "No way! <click>" then they're supposedly taken to jail, their best excuse would be "I didn't think it was real" an easy retort from the popo would be "So you wanted to see and make sure ?"
I know at least 5 people like that, I'm sure you all do as well. What about people who might redirect the link to make it look like something else ? (Rickroll anyone?) there's too many loop holes and ways this doesn't make any sense. Until April fools day passes and this is still around, I believe this is bullshit. |
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One part of me says that the FBI is using an unfair tactic.
The other side of me says good. Fuck Pedos. Like someone already said: You don't end up on a CP forum downloading shit "accidently" |
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I wonder if people at the ASACP will be getting raided if they click those links with the intention of reporting it to the authorities.
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I would have to say I am ALL for setting up pedo's .. hell for what ever your country finds illegal .. your ISP and the internet was not built to provide you with a super-D-duper top secret CP viewing device .. nor was it designed to commit tax evasion or to sell fucking drugs .. It has been people using for these purposes that have brought this and I am sure future invasions of privacy to us ALL .. We as adult content providers have nothing to worry about if we obey the laws of our said countries...
** support the fucking castration and hanging of all pedo's*** |
This is kind of vague,alot of it is assumed it seems:
"FBI Special Agent Wade Luders disseminated links to the supposedly illicit porn on an online discussion forum called Ranchi, which Luders believed was frequented by people who traded underage images. " Also how many text links to sell porn have used the phrase teens fucking and its two people in there 20's . The problem is in this country unless you can afford serious legal firepower. Your chances in court are probably 50-50 at best and that's being innocent as the pure driven snow. |
One major problem with this is "speed boost" software that starts downloading & caching links on pages you go to so that your internet connection seems faster (I believe AOL has this for dialup users, as do other ISP's). Some of them go multiple pages deep.
So hypothetically speaking, someone could be reading a legal blog that includes links to other blogs which in turn link to still more blogs. A surfer with this software could technically be clicking on illegal links without knowing it. |
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If you're one of the many people on the internet who have visited Genki Genki, do you have a predisposition towards watching bestiality? If you're one of the many people who have seen 2girls1cup or goatse, do you have a predisposition towards watching obscene porn? Quite clearly, the answer to both questions is no. If something is considered shocking or taboo, people will often take a look out of sheer curiosity - even if the subject matter actually disgusts them. Humans are curious. When given the chance, many will look at anything out of the ordinary out of curiosity. The only predisposition proven by that is one towards curiosity. |
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Not sure if it's been mentioned yet since I didn't read this whole thread, but there are a lot of web acceleraator programs that automatically click ahead and fetch a page for you, so that the pages will load faster.
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if they were posting the links in pedo forums then sure it's a brilliant idea. it's not like they spammed peoples emails randomly. you only went to the sites if you were already doing something illegal, this was just a way to catch them.
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buddy probably had to get in a few steps...so he really knew what he was trying to download or watch...not just a simple click on some main page somewhere. he dug for it...and found a link i say fuck him |
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It was NOT just porn forums or known pedo hangouts that were targeted.
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I really don't think this is the answer to the problem. Way too many holes in the system. Everyone realizes this is an issue that needs to be seriously dealt with, but if we start allowing things like this to slip by in one case, it opens the door for it to get by in another case. It's a slippery slope to start going down. Personally I think the current tactics work well, they just need more funding to execute them more efficiently and on a broader scale. Continue tracking known pedo outlets. I mean fuck, if the pedos can find eachother surely the feds can find them too. Most of the task forces specializing in these crimes are fairly small, what they need is more manpower, not lazier police work.
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Arresting for clicking a link? This is ridiculous.
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Hell, if 4chan found out about a URL like this, they'd post it all over for laughs. Like the "search for 'lolita' on imagefap" thing that got spammed everywhere a while ago. |
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We know very very little about this situation. And anytime the media mentions anything even close to porn I become very skeptic of what the story will say. This guy is going to pay for the "crime" regardless of whether or not he actually did anything wrong... let's hope they didn't screw over this guy's life for nothing. |
Those saying this is entrapment, it's no more entrapment than police dressing up as hookers to catch johns. As harsh as this may be (and I agree some people doing much more heinous shit get off way too easy), it's only BETTER for porn as a whole if CP is killed as much as possible. They obviously have to be able to really control this though - someone posting the link somewhere where they hate everyone or emailing the link to someone they hate, etc...could really be abused if the FBI doesn't have strict guidelines to ensure they're only catching people that are for sure looking to get CP.
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I stand by the methods they've been using. I believe they need more funding and more manpower, not lazier inefficient ways to go about doing their job. Reallocate funding from somewhere else to fund these task forces. How many thousands of law enforcement officers do you think are dedicated to fighting the war on drugs, which is going nowhere. How many millions of dollars are spent trying to keep mostly harmless stoners down, while we could be putting those funds towards fighting REAL CRIME. Fact is, that this is an international problem, and in order to fight it effectively, in needs to be fought as a joint international effort. Until an true international effort is set forth, many of the worst criminals are going to be able to use the borders as protection. Especially the ones who PROFIT from the distribution... |
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so lets throw all the guys looking to buy cheap viagra online in jail too :helpme remember that governments love to make laws that slowly take away our freedoms, and the internet can be a godsend for freedom from tyranny, but I'm sure the Chinese government agrees with your view on what the role of the government in the internet should be (and even recently some in the Australian government it seems) http://eff.org |
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