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|  03-22-2009, 08:26 PM | #1 | 
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				 |  Open letter to Xbiz World Magazine: Why are you ripping off my graphics? Sitting down to read the March 2009 issue of Xbiz World (the printed magazine), I came across an article on page 88 titled, "ASACP AIDS FCACP IN FIGHTING COMMERCIAL CP" by Stephen Yagielowicz. Much to my surprise, the example kiddie porn site looks an awful lot like the splash page to one of my sites. See the side-by-side here, I don't have enough posts to embed images: furrygirl.com/share/xbiz.jpg I don't recall ever seeing another adult web site using that font, and I especially have never seen any web site ever using it on a dark blue splash page in white and light blue text. There is no debating that Xbiz's little example kiddie porn site is based directly on my splash page. So, Xbiz, what the fuck? What made you pull my URL out of a hat to use as base from which to make a kiddie porn site mockup graphic for your article? I mean, I know I'm young-looking and all that, but I'm also probably the only adult website that specifically forbids affiliates from selling me as a "teen". I have never used the words "teen" or "young" to describe my site, despite the fact I started shooting/webmastering when I was 18. I don't do schoolgirl content, and I go out of my way to avoid portraying myself as super-young, when I could have gone the Little April route if I so wanted. To see something I've created (even just something as simple as my enter/exit/members buttons and layout) being used as an example of kiddie porn really pisses me off. It would piss off any webmaster. I would have expected better from Xbiz. 
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|  03-22-2009, 08:28 PM | #2 | 
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|  03-22-2009, 08:29 PM | #3 | 
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|  03-22-2009, 08:29 PM | #4 | 
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				 | you don't look young.  
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|  03-22-2009, 08:30 PM | #5 | 
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				 | you're really fucking stretching it on that one.... | 
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|  03-22-2009, 08:30 PM | #6 | 
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				 | On another note... I fail to see any resemblance at all or even what you are talking about. 
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|  03-22-2009, 08:30 PM | #7 | 
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				 | major failage incoming.  commence with fail pics at will. 
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|  03-22-2009, 08:31 PM | #8 | 
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				 | What are you talking about?  Don't be absurd. 
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|  03-22-2009, 08:32 PM | #9 | 
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				 | Wow, you need help. 
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|  03-22-2009, 08:33 PM | #10 | 
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				 | I guess I am lost. What part of the left side of that pic is supposed to resemble the right side? The font on leave and enter? | 
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|  03-22-2009, 08:33 PM | #11 | |
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				 | Quote: 
  
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|  03-22-2009, 08:35 PM | #12 | 
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				 | It's not just the font- it's a direct copy of the bottom of my splash page. 
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|  03-22-2009, 08:36 PM | #13 | 
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				 | I think they different shades of blue and white text?  Apparently they have never been used together anywhere before. 
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|  03-22-2009, 08:37 PM | #14 | 
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				 | you guys are fucking idiots if you dont see that they clearly ripped off the font for the enter & leave button thats fucked up | 
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|  03-22-2009, 08:38 PM | #15 | 
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				 | Find me one other porn site that uses that font, let alone a porn site that uses that font on a dark blue splash page is that exact same size with the exact same wording.  It's not like I used white Verdana text on a black background. 
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|  03-22-2009, 08:38 PM | #16 | 
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				 | has anyone ever told you that you're going crazy? well, i think you arrived. 
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|  03-22-2009, 08:38 PM | #17 | 
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|  03-22-2009, 08:38 PM | #18 | 
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				 | Are you talking about the Enter and Exit link? 
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|  03-22-2009, 08:40 PM | #19 | 
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				 | I can't believe I just read through this...  Thanks. | 
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|  03-22-2009, 08:40 PM | #20 | 
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				 | The devil himself..why they didn't shoot the bastard in the first place 
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|  03-22-2009, 08:42 PM | #21 | 
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				 | Leave and Enter are obviously not words I hold a patent on.  Like I said, I challenge anyone to find any other site with a splash page that uses the exact same font, wording, color scheme, and layout.  That's not a random accident. Am I the only webmaster who would be pissed off to see a large trade publication use MY WORK as an example kiddie porn graphic? 
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|  03-22-2009, 08:42 PM | #22 | 
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|  03-22-2009, 08:43 PM | #23 | 
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				 | That is a pretty fucked up coincidence, unless its some sort of really bad template. I don't see how that could have any time whatsoever though. 
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|  03-22-2009, 08:44 PM | #24 | 
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				 | Go grab a steak or burger. The protein will be good for your brain. Absolutely absurd. 
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|  03-22-2009, 08:45 PM | #25 | 
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|  03-22-2009, 08:45 PM | #26 | 
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				 | I see it.  Clearly, that is an exact copy almost!  See the chainsaw?  I think they're threatening to shave her underarm. 
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|  03-22-2009, 08:46 PM | #27 | |
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|  03-22-2009, 08:48 PM | #28 | 
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				 | LOL, is this person for real? | 
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|  03-22-2009, 08:50 PM | #29 | |
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|  03-22-2009, 08:51 PM | #30 | 
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				 | Also look at the "already a member? enter here text"... it's off center a bit in the EXACT same way as in the ad. 
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|  03-22-2009, 08:52 PM | #31 | 
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				 | Oh crap! I now see the light... 
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|  03-22-2009, 08:52 PM | #32 | |
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|  03-22-2009, 08:54 PM | #33 | |
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|  03-22-2009, 08:54 PM | #34 | |
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 Have you thought of starting a search engine? Use a different font for it though. | |
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|  03-22-2009, 08:55 PM | #35 | 
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				 | OMG if i EVER see anyone using the Aerial font I use on my entry page on their entry page I swear I will lose it and make a big skink about it on GFY and the whole internets!    
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|  03-22-2009, 08:56 PM | #36 | 
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				 | didn't notice that part, but furrygirl, you have to realize you are the only person on the planet that would have ever made the connection. 
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|  03-22-2009, 09:04 PM | #37 | 
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				 | What the fuck... Was this even serious? I thought it's some kind of weird self-promotion, classic GFY style! | 
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|  03-22-2009, 09:06 PM | #38 | 
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				 | You're right- I probably am the only person who would notice, but does that make it okay for Xbiz to rip off smaller webmasters because it's easier than ripping off Bang Bus?  If someone uploads my copyrighted material to a tube site, is that okay because I'm small?  Either copyright infringement and ripping people off is okay, or it isn't.  And it's the frosting on a shit cake that my work is being used in the kiddie porn graphic. 
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|  03-22-2009, 09:07 PM | #39 | 
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				 | I see the resemblance, but I don't think it's something to get your panties in a wad over... I'd be more worried about finding a suitable razor for that hair problem.   | 
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|  03-22-2009, 09:07 PM | #40 | 
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				 | Cue the Twilight Zone music. | 
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|  03-22-2009, 09:07 PM | #41 | 
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				 | unless you made that font you should shut the fuck up and go eat some protein as your vegan/hairy lifestyle has turned your mind to mush.. p.s. if you did make the font then i apologize but i doubt you did so  | 
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|  03-22-2009, 09:08 PM | #42 | 
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				 | Well, they did certainly use a screenshot of your site to make that graphic. now the question is... who gives a fuck ? | 
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|  03-22-2009, 09:16 PM | #43 | |
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|  03-22-2009, 09:23 PM | #44 | 
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				 | Furrygirl, do you plan on NOT EVER doing ANY SORT of business with XBiz?  Do you have anything against anyone that works at XBiz or was this really about them using the same FONT as you?  Honestly? Do you feel better now that you got this out, or are you regretting this post right about now? | 
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|  03-22-2009, 09:23 PM | #45 | 
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				 | it would be debatable if it was your own font or you had exclusive rights to it. 
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|  03-22-2009, 09:24 PM | #46 | |
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				 | Quote: 
 I have, however, already emailed an attorney about. If a big sponsor's web site was being ripped off in the same way, the tone of this thread would be an outpouring of ass-kissing and sympathy for the big sponsor. 
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|  03-22-2009, 09:25 PM | #47 | 
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				 | your attorney if hes worth his salt will laugh at you when you show him your argument also. | 
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|  03-22-2009, 09:25 PM | #49 | 
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				 | this is print work so I'm sure they will come to all our houses and recall all copies cause a font was used that was the same as another site on the small internet 
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