And we are supposed to sell porn how?
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Some fucked up shit for sure
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DAMN, stupid redtube... my over all ratio is down in last month, stupid tube sites..
Its time to promote dating
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and more tube sites launching in the near future.
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just checked google trends... ... interesting data..
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pornhub is first in goolgle for keyword porn, and Im sure that keyword is much more searched then redtube.
anyway brazzers make huge cash
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Let's get back to the roots, I can headline with my band for your band.
And pornstars can fuck on the stage - I guess that could be quite popular, we would also give people signs if they are single and want to get laid, so we would do an upsell for adult dating too.
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you're almost there... i think if you start just 3 more threads about them, tube sites will go away completelyComment
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shit happens....all the fucking time
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The thing is redtube sucks. So I don't it.Comment
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The exponential explosion of TUBES and TORRENTS is going to kill us all.
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Wait, you mean they stopped paying for your sites after you hit them with 120 dollars in charges after signing up for a 1 dollar trial???
Nooooo, who would've expected that. Isn't that weird!!!
It's so typical of you. ALWAYS blaming other people. Always pointing fingers at others...Comment
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If tube sites cause ratios to go down my ratios would be down as well last month but it wasn't. So your theory is flawed. It probably has more to do with half the sponsors you use who charge the fuck out of surfers with hidden prechecked cross sales.Comment
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It is YOU Jay, stupid faggot, who drove tons and tons of surfers to free tube sites because after trying your sites they ended up with 120 bucks in charges and thought fuck it, this was the last time i tried paying for porn.
Stop blaming other people you stupid dumb cunt.
God, you're so fucking dumb...unbelievable. Dumb as fuck and a retarded hypocrite as well. Faggot.Comment
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And back to the top so everyone can see what a piece of shit hypocrite you are.Comment
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Tube sites are OK if you are looking for generic porn. Most of them have the same clips from the same sponsors. How many times can you watch the same AssParade videos?
If you are looking for anything niche, it is not there. It is mostly generic stuff being passed off as niche. I am not even talking micro niche here.
A lot of stuff still sells. The ratios may be slipping, but I don't think you can blame tube sites for that. The economy has a lot to do with it.Comment
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Sure they are, but you go anywhere and they are complaining about the same thing. Check out the guys running adsense sites. They have the same complaint. Adsense earnings have dropped 50% or more for some websites. You are going to start blaming tube sites for that too?Comment
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Yeah it's crazy, I was looking last night to see what search terms I wanted to target on a legal tube I'm working on, and redtube, you porn, xtube, all get way way more searches than "porn movies" or "free porn"
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Funny stuff in some replies.
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Did they ever ! They now charge 15,000 dollars/month to upload 30 clips and its an acution so it can go higher. Never had any pirates such gall...it because they have done a good job of branding themselves
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If they are charging $15,000 dollars/month, obviously there are sponsors out there willing to pay it. If nobody is buying porn how can the sponsors afford it?Comment
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I think it's impossible for anyone to truly know... all we have is theories. Lots of theories. Yearly conversions I don't think are really an accurate way to track how things are going... a lot of things can easily throw off conversions. But how do we track? I haven't the slightest idea. Money is really my only guess... but how do we judge that? And do we add an inflation to the money that should be earned yearly based on real economic inflation and also the inflation of Internet users (more people sign on to the Internet every year, though there will be a cap.)
And then how do you figure in competition to the grand scheme of things? Yes, Sponsor A does not make the same money they made in 2002... is that because of competition or is that because of disappearing sales? Are those sales simply going to other pay sites or are they totally disappearing? How can we even monitor that?
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I disagree most popular tubes have such a huge amount of content you can find a good selection of any niche. Even midget
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Another question is this... all of these "friends" that we have that get porn off of these tube sites... did we actually lose a buyer or is it just a looky-loo? This "friend" may claim that he would typically buy porn... but most people also claim they are financially stable when they really are not.
I'm not saying that free porn and tubes don't play their part in things... I'm just saying blaming them for everything doesn't really get us anywhere. For years people have blamed shady billing tactics, they have blamed MGP galleries, they have blamed free sites... now we have the tubes to blame. What's the answer? I haven't the slightest clue...Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted
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That's not accurate. 5 years ago I was promoting over 400 sponsors in stats remote...all adult. I promote more now of course. But my tgp's have lost all their traffic to tube sites. And EVERYBODY now uses torrents to download porn for free.
The big mega site companies are really getting hit hard. And in this case their very size is hurting them. Nobody is really in charge that understands the game, and so their stuff is being used by torrents and illegit tubes to make money via pre-paid spots.
I had a plumber over last week to replace the thermostat on my gas water heater. He asked me what I did for a living. I told him I was in the internet porn business.
He asked me how I could possibly be making a living at it anymore. I said "why would you say that?"
He told me that everybody knows you don't have to pay for porn anymore, it's all free for download on the torrents.
I realized then that if a plumber working on my hot water heater thinks that...then the whole world thinks it.
Nobody wants to pay for something that they can get for free. Why would they? So it's very difficult to market something....no matter what or how you do it.
The only guys making out like bandits on a torrent site are the dating and cam sites. And of course, as I discovered last night while googling up Claudia-Marie....the torrent sites are now charging money (just like a paysite) to download stolen content! No, I didn't say "upload", I said DOWNLOAD.
And they are also using keywords that they don't have the movies for at all to entice the surfer to pay their join fee. I know this because I found Claudia-Marie movies listed at a torrent site that gave you a "download' button. But when you click the button you go to a join page. Then once I paid to be able to check my content....guess what? They didn't even have my movies! They listed them in the free area so anybody using a search engine to look for her would see them as a potential torrent listing.
I spoke to Eric at Removeyourcontent.com about that and he said that "yes" that is becoming prevalent now with torrent sites as they are using deceptive b.s. to get the surfer to pay when they don't actually have that content (in my case RYC had already removed it)-Robbie
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So, if you were into midgets you would be satisfied with the 13 low quality videos on that link you posted, some of which have been up for more than a year? I doubt it.I disagree most popular tubes have such a huge amount of content you can find a good selection of any niche. Even midget
For someone who is into midgets, that might be his fix for a day, or week. What is he going to do after that.
I did a search for something as easy as "pussy masturbation". Of the 100 videos that pop up, half of them are from sponsors like Nubiles.
The link you posted actually proves my point.Comment
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scary for who? Do your job and sell porn, if you suck at it you'll failComment
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A lot, if not most ISPs throttle torrent traffic. If you are looking for a quick download, you can't just go to a torrent site and download a 2 GB file. In my area, all the major ISPs throttle torrent traffic in peak hours. If you download a file today, you might get it tomorrow. If somebody is out surfing for porn on a friday night, he is not going to wait till the next day to get his movie. And then find a time to be alone to watch it.
Have Tubes and Torrents affected traffic? Sure. But, every day there is so much porn being produced. SOMEBODY is buying it. If everybody was getting porn for free, how do porn sites have the money to keep shooting fresh content? Nobody is working for free.Comment
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