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  • tonyparra
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2008
    • 4568
    #1

    Porn legal/ethics/tube question...

    Site A is a legal tube by that i mean using only sponsor provided videos and Site B does the opposite providing full scenes and dvd rips. Webmaster from Site A stumbles upon Site B and sees some full scene and dvd content he would really like to promote. Now if Site A webmaster then took that video from Site B and added it to his site and put links back to sponsor around the video in the same manner as he would with a "legal" clip is he just as wrong?

    Ok real world: theres some content i like that nots available through sponsor. And i doubt the sponsor will be providing full scenes and rips. I dont really care for the long clips ( longer than 8 mins ) cus i dont believe most surfers watch all that shit. But i would like to add this content to my site. Didnt mean for this to turn into a poll... let me know
    9
    Inform sponsor, wait for shit to come down and for sponsor to release some of the content for promo
    0%
    4
    Say fuck just post the shit at my site with links to sponsor
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    0
    Just give up tying to compete with tubes and do something else with my life
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    5

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    • JustDaveXxx
      I AM JUSTDAVE !
      • Feb 2005
      • 4111
      #2
      You need to do the right thing. At the end of the day you are alone with you. If you are a lying stealing thief, then you have that to look at and that to great your family everyday.


      I dont promote websites or own a program, but when i find long clips or stolen content that i recognize i contact the owners asap. Why? Because its the right thing to do.


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        • epitome
          So Fucking Lame
          • Jun 2009
          • 12156
          #3
          If a sponsor is cool with you ripping their shit for a tube then they are going to give you a log-in to go and make your own clips. There are sponsors out there that do this. It's all about establishing trust with them.

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            • JustDaveXxx
              I AM JUSTDAVE !
              • Feb 2005
              • 4111
              #4
              Originally posted by KrisH
              Do you share the view of Nautilus above?

              You are a produce content, if one of your customers use your non-exlusive content like that, how would you respond?

              Would you be happy because this means he need to buy more fresh content soon to keep the members?

              Or would you be pissed because he also devalue the same content you sold to other people?
              I shoot custom exclusive, but if i find my shit or anybody else's shit where its not permitted to be, i contact the owners.

              If i and everybody start leting that shit slide, me and other shooters will get less and less work, because the companies we work for will make less and less money. As a total result i get less work and or no work.


              So it will directly effect me in the long run. I have seen a lot of really good shooters loose everything because they are not working. There will be almost nothing new getting produced if this keeps up.



              If that happens, i will start hunting down tube owners with a prison "SPORK"!!!


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                • tonyparra
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 4568
                  #5
                  sorry guys i didnt mean to make 2 threads about this it was supposed to be one poll thread

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                    • CYF
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                      • Mar 2009
                      • 10973
                      #6
                      Originally posted by JustDaveXxx
                      You need to do the right thing. At the end of the day you are alone with you. If you are a lying stealing thief, then you have that to look at and that to great your family everyday.
                      quoted for truth.
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                        • Mr. Billy
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 467
                          #7
                          I think you need to notify the sponsor and abide by their wishes in the matter.

                          I believe that in time there will be more legal control over torrents and tube sites.

                          You would not want to contribute to the angst of a sponsor or content provider who sees their content used without their consent.

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                            • raymor
                              Confirmed User
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 3745
                              #8
                              I had that happen when I first started in this business, in 1997.
                              Well, it wasn't a tube, but I made my own clip to promote a sponsor.
                              I got a phone call from the very unhappy producer (Sorry Bob).
                              I'll never do that again without getting approval.

                              Contact the sponsor about the specific content you want to use.
                              I bet they'll let you use it in some way that will work for you - maybe
                              limiting the length to some medium length or something. Perhaps
                              make a sample page with a reasonable length clip on a page that
                              clearly promotes their site. If they think it may get them sales, they'll
                              say OK. They own the content. If it's not OK with them, then doing that
                              is stealing plain and simple. Consider if you spent $20,000 on video
                              equipment and another $3,000 to produce that video. You wouldn't want
                              it spread all around without your permission, right? I bet if you make a
                              reasonable sized clip they'll work with you, but if not, too bad - it's their
                              video that they paid for so it's their choice.
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                                • tonyparra
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2008
                                  • 4568
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by raymor
                                  I had that happen when I first started in this business, in 1997.
                                  Well, it wasn't a tube, but I made my own clip to promote a sponsor.
                                  I got a phone call from the very unhappy producer (Sorry Bob).
                                  I'll never do that again without getting approval.

                                  Contact the sponsor about the specific content you want to use.
                                  I bet they'll let you use it in some way that will work for you - maybe
                                  limiting the length to some medium length or something. Perhaps
                                  make a sample page with a reasonable length clip on a page that
                                  clearly promotes their site. If they think it may get them sales, they'll
                                  say OK. They own the content. If it's not OK with them, then doing that
                                  is stealing plain and simple. Consider if you spent $20,000 on video
                                  equipment and another $3,000 to produce that video. You wouldn't want
                                  it spread all around without your permission, right? I bet if you make a
                                  reasonable sized clip they'll work with you, but if not, too bad - it's their
                                  video that they paid for so it's their choice.
                                  Good point but tube site owners could care less ... all the ngative post i get is starting to make me feel same way

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