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  • Si
    Such Fun!
    • Feb 2008
    • 13900

    #61
    Originally posted by Allformyspace
    Where has all that British pride gone??
    I bet you that Alfred Ramsey is turning over in his coffin!!
    Well steve mclaren fucked up, so did venables (but he didn't get given much chance) hoddle was a shit coach.

    Sven was also shit. Capello is a good move for england and there were obviously calls for the manager to be english when mclaren became boss and he fucked it up.

    If cappello does a good job it doesn't matter. the english players need a manager that can bring the team together.

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    • MOxxx
      Confirmed User
      • Oct 2005
      • 3022

      #62
      Originally posted by Blazed

      Heres a fact for you, over the past 3 years Arsenal, Chelsea, Man Utd and Liverpool have all been in a champions league final. How about Italian clubs? Of course you can dig up some HISTORY but we are debating why the EPL is the best league NOW.
      hmmm one of the final, in 2007 to be precise was won by AC Milan, as well as the club world cup and the uefa supercup in that year. Thank you.
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      • MOxxx
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        • Oct 2005
        • 3022

        #63
        Originally posted by mobilefun1987
        Manchester united lost 2 times! to west ham last year.
        They also had a massive match against hull which ended 4-3 this year and hull were only promoted this season
        Arsenal lost 2-1 against hull on the 27th of september. they have also drawn against stoke this season who also just been promoted to the PL this season.

        You don't know fuck all! about football mate.

        And i've just proven that point above.

        Serie A is slowwww and boring your teams are shit and so is the league in general!

        The Premier League is Fast paced and the players in the premier league are world class.

        Hence the reason for 2 season in a row there is 4 english teams in the 1/4 finals of the champions league.

        Now fuck off, and shut the fuck up before I own your pathetic knowledge of football even more
        OK 3 episodes in what 2 years, maybe 3 ?

        Football is a cycle you baby boy , you probably too young to know about football, Italian teams were in the 1/4 finals for 3 years so what?

        You can say whatever you want but the EPL has the most embarrassing defense lines in Football , anyone can score.

        Teams play always the same boring 4-4-2 like if we were in the 90's.

        Goalkeepers are a joke, take off Chech and Reina occasionally Van der sar ( all foreigners) and everyboy elses is a disaster.

        Refs are the worst in Europe (UEFA ranking).

        World Class Player? You can mention probably Gerard,Rooney, Drogba,Fabregas who else?

        Don't mention Ronaldo because when he plays away from Old Trafford he doesn't catch a ball. Euro 2008 docet.

        Now YES it's a fats pace league, it's always been very athletic.

        Now when the Money Bubble will pop, EPL well go back to be the same medieval league which is the mirror of the national team.
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        • Shagbunny
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          • Oct 2007
          • 3028

          #64
          Originally posted by MOxxx
          Money and foreign players is what makes the PL. that's it.
          Funny.

          Inter, Italian champs for the past 3 years plays many of its games in Serie A WITHOUT AN ITALIAN STARTING MEMBER. They are all foreign (Brazilians, Portuguese, Argentines etc etc...), heck, even the Coach is Portuguese.

          I'd say before you say anything against the Premier League, you should check your own.

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          • MOxxx
            Confirmed User
            • Oct 2005
            • 3022

            #65
            Originally posted by mobilefun1987
            and AC milan are NOT the most dominating in europe,
            True we are not in Europe...we are in the world little boy:

            Milan and Boca share 18 officially recognized international titles (most in the world).

            AC Milan have 7 UEFA Champions League Titles, 5 UEFA Super Cups, 2 UEFA Cups, 3 Intercontinental Cups and 1 FIFA Club World Cup. So that is 14 Titles in Europe, and 4 Titles Internationally.

            Check who has the most appearances in the CL finals in the last 20 years...guess what AC Milan is. 8 times.

            We sucked this season due to too many injured key players but next year we will be back once again don't you worry little boy.
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            • Shagbunny
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              • Oct 2007
              • 3028

              #66
              Originally posted by MOxxx
              So where da fuck is the fun if always the same 4 teams win, what's the excitement?


              Serie A Champions

              Juventus 27 times
              Milan 17 times
              Inter 16 times


              Everyone else, bunch of unknows under 7 like Roma at 3, Lazio at 2. Are you kidding?

              It's the same 3 freakin' teams in Serie A

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              • MOxxx
                Confirmed User
                • Oct 2005
                • 3022

                #67
                Originally posted by Shagbunny
                Funny.

                Inter, Italian champs for the past 3 years plays many of its games in Serie A WITHOUT AN ITALIAN STARTING MEMBER. They are all foreign (Brazilians, Portuguese, Argentines etc etc...), heck, even the Coach is Portuguese.

                I'd say before you say anything against the Premier League, you should check your own.

                Inter is a case apart, they have always been a joke and the second team of Milan. One team out of 18 doesn't constitute any relevant data.

                Again since you all are so fond for the EPL which i presume is a league where Englishmen play as well tell me why the English national team doesn't get anywhere since the Baby final in Italy 1990?

                If the EPL is so dominating and rich with world class players including the British... where was England in the 2006 world cup? and 2002? and 1998? about 1994?
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                • MOxxx
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                  • Oct 2005
                  • 3022

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Shagbunny


                  Serie A Champions

                  Juventus 27 times
                  Milan 17 times
                  Inter 16 times


                  Everyone else, bunch of unknows under 7 like Roma at 3, Lazio at 2. Are you kidding?

                  It's the same 3 freakin' teams in Serie A
                  next time you google stuff do it right:

                  Genoa 9 times
                  Bologna 7 times
                  Pro vercelli 7 times
                  Torino 7 times
                  Fiorentina 2 times

                  I you to do a better search.
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                  • Shagbunny
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                    • Oct 2007
                    • 3028

                    #69
                    Originally posted by MOxxx
                    Inter is a case apart, they have always been a joke and the second team of Milan. One team out of 18 doesn't constitute any relevant data.

                    Again since you all are so fond for the EPL which i presume is a league where Englishmen play as well tell me why the English national team doesn't get anywhere since the Baby final in Italy 1990?

                    If the EPL is so dominating and rich with world class players including the British... where was England in the 2006 world cup? and 2002? and 1998? about 1994?
                    Funny you say they are the 2nd team of Milan, however, they've been in Serie A longer so that would make Milan, the 2nd team

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                    • marcop
                      Confirmed User
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 4150

                      #70
                      Originally posted by MOxxx
                      next time you google stuff do it right:

                      Bologna 7 times
                      My dad was from Bologna, but before I left England for the US I was taking him to Stamford Bridge every other week and he loved it.

                      Whoever said the EPL is number 1 and La Liga is number 2, is spot on. Serie A has declined in the last few years (remember the scandal in 2006?).

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                      • Shagbunny
                        Confirmed User
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 3028

                        #71
                        Originally posted by MOxxx
                        next time you google stuff do it right:

                        Genoa 9 times
                        Bologna 7 times
                        Pro vercelli 7 times
                        Torino 7 times
                        Fiorentina 2 times

                        I you to do a better search.
                        Genoa last time they won, 1924
                        Bologna last time they won, 1964
                        Torino last time they won, 1976

                        So in the history of Serie A, the TOP SIX teams, the bottom 3 that you so graciously posted have NOT WON ANYTHING since 1976, 33 years ago


                        The top 20 clubs as of 2007-08 UEFA competitions are as follows:

                        Rank Club Country 2003-04 2004-05 2005-06 2006-07 2007-08 Coefficient
                        1 Chelsea England 22.7125 25.1385 17.7610 28.4860 30.8985 124.996
                        2 Milan Italy 16.9285 31.6200 26.0675 27.9360 17.3825 119.934
                        3 Liverpool England 14.7125 30.1385 17.7610 29.4860 26.8985 118.996
                        4 Barcelona Spain 16.7230 17.1040 34.1620 20.2700 29.5785 117.837
                        5 Arsenal England 17.7125 19.1385 31.7610 18.4860 23.8985 110.996
                        6 Manchester United England 15.7125 17.1385 12.7610 27.4860 34.8985 107.996
                        7 Sevilla Spain 4.7230 16.1040 30.1620 31.2700 20.5785 102.837
                        8 Lyon France 18.4550 23.7710 24.5680 18.3000 14.2860 99.380
                        9 Internazionale Italy 15.9285 22.6200 24.0675 16.9360 17.3825 96.934
                        10 Real Madrid Spain 21.7230 18.1040 17.1620 20.2700 16.5785 93.837
                        11 Bayern Munich Germany 10.5555 19.4885 17.4440 20.1350 24.4550 92.078
                        12 PSV Eindhoven Netherlands 17.7875 24.9600 13.5025 17.7105 17.6500 91.610
                        13 Villarreal Spain 20.7230 22.1040 24.1620 6.2700 17.5785 90.837
                        14 Newcastle United England 24.7125 27.1385 4.7610 22.4860 5.8985 84.996
                        15 Valencia Spain 29.7230 14.1040 5.1620 23.2700 11.5785 83.837
                        16 Roma Italy 12.9285 8.6200 19.0675 20.9360 20.3825 81.934
                        17 Porto Portugal 26.3825 13.6950 8.8150 15.6675 16.6160 81.176
                        18 Benfica Portugal 13.3825 13.6950 17.8150 18.6675 13.6160 77.176
                        19 Werder Bremen Germany 1.5555 16.4885 14.4440 24.1350 17.4550 74.078
                        20 AZ Netherlands 1.7875 27.9600 13.5025 18.7105 7.6500 69.610

                        Out of the TOP 6 clubs, FOUR are English.

                        Premier League > Serie A

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                        • John-ACWM
                          Work Work Work
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 20060

                          #72
                          He was special,that matters

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                          • Blazed
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 1701

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Allformyspace
                            How sad and humiliating it must be for the England national team to be coached by an Italian, it just shows you cant do shit for your self (tehehe)
                            Liverpool owned by the Americans, Arsenal by the Arabs and city by the Thais.... Blaaaah!
                            You talk about pride yet you are an Italian living in America. And Arsenal are not owned by Arabs.

                            Originally posted by MOxxx
                            hmmm one of the final, in 2007 to be precise was won by AC Milan, as well as the club world cup and the uefa supercup in that year. Thank you.
                            And that counters the fact 4 Engish teams have been in the CL final over the past 3 years? No it doesnt, so wtf is your point? You just dont get it, the fact English teams have dominated the CL over recent years shows the strength of the league. You can only name one Italian team in the CL final over the past 3 years. 4 vs 1, do you see where this is going?
                            Last edited by Blazed; 03-13-2009, 03:50 AM.

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                            • Si
                              Such Fun!
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 13900

                              #74
                              Originally posted by MOxxx
                              OK 3 episodes in what 2 years, maybe 3 ?

                              Football is a cycle you, you probably too young to know about football, Italian teams were in the 1/4 finals for 3 years so what?

                              You can say whatever you want but the EPL has the most embarrassing defense lines in Football , anyone can score.

                              Teams play always the same boring 4-4-2 like if we were in the 90's.

                              Goalkeepers are a joke, take off Chech and Reina occasionally Van der sar ( all foreigners) and everyboy elses is a disaster.

                              Refs are the worst in Europe (UEFA ranking).

                              World Class Player? You can mention probably Gerard,Rooney, Drogba,Fabregas who else?

                              Don't mention Ronaldo because when he plays away from Old Trafford he doesn't catch a ball. Euro 2008 docet.

                              Now YES it's a fats pace league, it's always been very athletic.

                              Now when the Money Bubble will pop, EPL well go back to be the same medieval league which is the mirror of the national team.
                              Originally posted by MOxxx
                              True we are not in Europe...we are in the world:

                              Milan and Boca share 18 officially recognized international titles.

                              AC Milan have 7 UEFA Champions League Titles, 5 UEFA Super Cups, 2 UEFA Cups, 3 Intercontinental Cups and 1 FIFA Club World Cup. So that is 14 Titles in Europe, and 4 Titles Internationally.

                              Check who has the most appearances in the CL finals in the last 20 years...guess what AC Milan is. 8 times.

                              We sucked this season due to too many injured key players but next year we will be back once again don't you worry.


                              When was the last time AC milan won the league, the cup and the champions league in the same season, then, went on to win the intercontinental club world cup the following season?

                              Oh thats right they have never done it! manchester united have in 1999.

                              Manchester united last season also won the premier league, the champions league, and again another FIFA club world cup!

                              You are again mentioning the last 20 years. the last 3 years england have dominated Europe and will continue to do so.

                              Manchester winners in '08. liverpool in '05 plus another final, arsenal and chelsea have also made it to the final in the last 10 years.

                              How can you say don't mention Ronaldo? He came to england when he was young, Ferguson has trained him and made him the player he is today THE BEST IN THE WORLD! 2 years in a row.

                              I also notice how you take all your material from wiki answers. that means you have to actually look up your evidence? what a joke.

                              And you can call me a little boy all you want. your a tiny little spick faggot and doesn't know shit about football.

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                              • Twistys Tim
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                                • Apr 2008
                                • 1923

                                #75
                                Originally posted by MOxxx
                                Italian Catenacccio...wake up man it's 2009....

                                British football it's based only on e thing: kick the ball to tohe striker and let;s hope something happens.

                                it's a matter of fact you had to get Capello, an Italian coach, for your national team.
                                Hey -- come on, it's only a game. Don't be a bad loser


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