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Si 03-13-2009 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MOxxx (Post 15624708)
you talking to yourself now?

Fuck off Faggot, and get back to your boy friend. :thumbsup

MOxxx 03-13-2009 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mobilefun1987 (Post 15624732)
Fuck off Faggot, and get back to your boy friend. :thumbsup

Is that true that you have a poster of a naked Justin Fashanu , the only footballer who dared to come out of the closet?

Was it your closet?

Si 03-13-2009 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MOxxx (Post 15624797)
Is that true that you have a poster of a naked Justin Fashanu , the only footballer who dared to come out of the closet?

Was it your closet?

I didn't even know that, funny how you did! is he your boyfriend or something?

MOxxx 03-13-2009 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mobilefun1987 (Post 15624893)
I didn't even know that, funny how you did! is he your boyfriend or something?


you didn't know cause you don't know shit about football and premiere league, probably in 1990 when i was in Wien watching AC Milan win its 4th Champions League you were probably playing with the Barbie.

Si 03-13-2009 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MOxxx (Post 15625223)
you didn't know cause you don't know shit about football and premiere league, probably in 1990 when i was in Wien watching AC Milan win its 4th Champions League you were probably playing with the Barbie.

I'm getting worried about your bringing up all these homosexual references!

Stop trying to hit on me you spindly legged rotten grease ball.

You do not know FUCK ALL about football. good luck next year when all 4 italian teams get knocked out YET AGAIN! becuase they are fucking terrible.

here is a picture of the serie a, it's teams, and it's players

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/35/72...9c6c001fd5.jpg

MOxxx 03-14-2009 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mobilefun1987 (Post 15625285)
I'm getting worried about your bringing up all these homosexual references!

Stop trying to hit on me you spindly legged rotten grease ball.

You do not know FUCK ALL about football. good luck next year when all 4 italian teams get knocked out YET AGAIN! becuase they are fucking terrible.

here is a picture of the serie a, it's teams, and it's players

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/35/72...9c6c001fd5.jpg

you must have a big house to keep that thing in the living room.

Blazed 03-15-2009 02:15 AM

Fabio Capellos view on the premiership vs serie a.

Capello told Rai: ?There is a huge difference in terms of mentality and they [Premier League teams] are also more used to physical and intense football.

?Our [Italian] teams lack something compared to the English ones and when Milan beat Manchester [United, in 2007], it was because they had quality players.

?We have to improve on that aspect if we want to be back at the highest level in Europe.

?The rhythm is more fluid and quick in British football. Italian teams are too much about nine defenders and a striker left on his own to try to score goals.?

Pretty much sums it up, serie a teams defend, defend, defend which is why they are so boring to watch. He also makes a good point about Ac Milan, in 2007 they did have good players and were still a great squad, but years on they have an extremely old squad and ex-great players who just cant cut it anymore. The way Arsenal ripped apart this team of grandads showed how immobile they are.

Allformyspace 03-15-2009 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Blazed (Post 15622776)
You talk about pride yet you are an Italian living in America. And Arsenal are not owned by Arabs.

Your right they arent owned by the arabs... they are arabs!

Allformyspace 03-15-2009 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mobilefun1987 (Post 15624461)
Let's point this out for FACTS:

1. in the last 10 years 2 english teams MUFC with 2 CL title and LFC with 1, thats 3(just to make it clear because your obviously an idiot) and only 2 for italy both for AC Milan.

2. There are 4! teams from the PL left in the CL same as there was last year.

3. Last season CL final was an ALL english final with Chealsea and Manchester UTD. and Liverpool were also in the Semis along with only one non-english team (barca)

4. The Premiership Gains more Revenue per year than any other domestic league in Europe.

5. The most succesful team in the days of the Champions League is Real Madrid

6. Steven Gerrard an English Player from the Premier League is the current Top goal scorer in the CL this Season.

I can keep going all day long giving you reasons why the Serie A is rubbish and the PL is the best League in the world today

Dude you are like a broken 7" single

Ross 03-15-2009 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MOxxx (Post 15620317)
2005 was a joke, Liverpool cheat Chelsea and went to the final against us ( Ac Milan) and they we all saw how they won....


Bud could you remind me about England's performances in the last 3 or 4 world cups?

The national team is the expression of the league.

You keep coming back to the World/Euro cups. The Premier Leage is the best league in the world because its made up of players from many different nations (althought not too many Italians I might add) Thats what makes it amazing. No one ever said its so good because of the English players. Who is the best player in Serie A? Kaka of course.. note he is Brazillian. Im willing to bet Kaka will leave Milan in the next 2 years too. Maybe not to England or maybe he will. He won't stick around in Milan.

There's a reason the big players don't go to Italy until they are closer to the end of their careers nowadays. 10 years ago Serie A was amazing. Its stuck in the 90's. Too much defending and diving. The premier league moved on, invested on its image and teams benfited from it. Theres a reason all the rich men in the world are buying teams such as Aston Villa, Chelsea, West Ham, Manchester City etc etc.

Not to mention the match fixing scandal which almost brought down Italian football. Its a total farce, its more about politics and cheating than it is about results on the park.

You can argue with me all day, I'm willing to bet I know more about football than you ever will. I live and breathe the sport since I was 6 years old. There's also tons of good points in this thread as to why you are wrong.

The National team is not an expression on the quality of the league. If that was correct then the Brazillian and Argentinian Leagues should be the best in the world.

Ross 03-15-2009 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee (Post 15623792)
Picking up on Ross' post, whilst Maldini is a Milan (and football) legend, I reckon their greatest defender was Franco Baresi. That guy was incredible, and the bedrock that Milan brought the likes of Maldini and Costacurta through on..

Great shout there, Baresi was immense. Credit were its due.

maxjohan 03-16-2009 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MOxxx (Post 15625223)
you didn't know cause you don't know shit about football and premiere league, probably in 1990 when i was in Wien watching AC Milan win its 4th Champions League you were probably playing with the Barbie.

You are saying you know everything about football because....you've seen a few big games LIVE?

okaay. :helpme

(No not saying you don't know, but your refrence too your live events, aint a good example, aint rational, and will not hold up in court. If this were a criminal case.)):upsidedow

MOxxx 03-16-2009 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by maxjohan (Post 15634354)
You are saying you know everything about football because....you've seen a few big games LIVE?

from 1980 until now...it's definitely few games.

Lee 03-16-2009 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ross (Post 15632534)
Great shout there, Baresi was immense. Credit were its due.

The strange thing is though, to me he always looked like the guy who would turn up to paint your house rather than one of the greatest defenders ever, the man was a lionheart though.

MOxxx 03-16-2009 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Blazed (Post 15629930)
Fabio Capellos view on the premiership vs serie a.

Capello told Rai: ?There is a huge difference in terms of mentality and they [Premier League teams] are also more used to physical and intense football.

?Our [Italian] teams lack something compared to the English ones and when Milan beat Manchester [United, in 2007], it was because they had quality players.

?We have to improve on that aspect if we want to be back at the highest level in Europe.

?The rhythm is more fluid and quick in British football. Italian teams are too much about nine defenders and a striker left on his own to try to score goals.?

Pretty much sums it up, serie a teams defend, defend, defend which is why they are so boring to watch. He also makes a good point about Ac Milan, in 2007 they did have good players and were still a great squad, but years on they have an extremely old squad and ex-great players who just cant cut it anymore. The way Arsenal ripped apart this team of grandads showed how immobile they are.

I read this interview as well and i am not surprised.

Capello is a smart corporate man: he says what's convenient for him and when it's convenient for him.

I heard him saying that AC Milan was the greatest franchise in the world when he was the coach, then all of a sudden he moved to Madrid and said the same thing, then Juvetus.

Plus his AC Mialn that won Chapions League and league in 1994 wasn;t really very offeinsve.

4 defender and Desailly inf front of them:

Tassotti Costacurta Baresi Maldini

Desailly



he can be proven wrong very esealy, pretty much all the Seria A teams play with 3 or 2 and 1/2 strikers.

Only yesterday:

Inter : Ibrahimovic-Balotelli with Stankovic right behind
Milan: Inzagi-Pato with Beckham right behind ( otherwise Kaka and Ronaldhino when they are not injured)
Juvetus: Del Piero-Iaquinta-Giovinco
Fiorentina: Gilardino-Mutu and Melo right behind


Lazio and Udinese in many occasion play with 3 pure strikers in the front line and this is why they have had problems:

udinese: Di Natale, Pepe and Quagiarella ( 3 Italian Internationals)
Lazio: Rocchi-Zarate and Pandev....altough Rossi plyed only with the last two recently and had Rocchi come in later.

AC Milan is not a young team i agree but if all these players are fit and most of all can play all together it's still the best team in Europe.

Ancelotti is one of the best coaches in the world and he is not a defensive tachtician for sure, actually totally the opposite. AC Milan has the most goal in serie A.

Furthermore if our old farts like Inzaghi ( 35 yo) scores 5 goals in two games....frankly i would keep him on the field as much as i can.

Maldini at 40 yo can teach every single EPL defender how to play. But yes his time has come , this is the last year.


Old squad? Pato is 20 yo, Darmian 21 , Flamini is 24, Antonini 26, Boriello 24,Senderos 23,Bonera 28.

All these guys have played on a regular basis.

I agree with you we DO need to "refresh" the team

MOxxx 03-16-2009 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Lee (Post 15634556)
The strange thing is though, to me he always looked like the guy who would turn up to paint your house rather than one of the greatest defenders ever, the man was a lionheart though.


True Lionhearted on the fields, shy and troublesome man off the field. lost everything due his wife illegal gambling. sad story.

MOxxx 03-16-2009 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ross (Post 15632522)
You keep coming back to the World/Euro cups. The Premier Leage is the best league in the world because its made up of players from many different nations (althought not too many Italians I might add) Thats what makes it amazing. No one ever said its so good because of the English players. Who is the best player in Serie A? Kaka of course.. note he is Brazillian. Im willing to bet Kaka will leave Milan in the next 2 years too. Maybe not to England or maybe he will. He won't stick around in Milan.

There's a reason the big players don't go to Italy until they are closer to the end of their careers nowadays. 10 years ago Serie A was amazing. Its stuck in the 90's. Too much defending and diving. The premier league moved on, invested on its image and teams benfited from it. Theres a reason all the rich men in the world are buying teams such as Aston Villa, Chelsea, West Ham, Manchester City etc etc.

Not to mention the match fixing scandal which almost brought down Italian football. Its a total farce, its more about politics and cheating than it is about results on the park.

You can argue with me all day, I'm willing to bet I know more about football than you ever will. I live and breathe the sport since I was 6 years old. There's also tons of good points in this thread as to why you are wrong.

The National team is not an expression on the quality of the league. If that was correct then the Brazillian and Argentinian Leagues should be the best in the world.


I'd like to understand how can you bet than you know more football than me , i am not saying i know them all but i do have my ideas... but this is another story.


As many here and as pretty much everybody else you say the the EPL is th best league in the world... OK.. i disagree.

I understand that after 100+ years of mediocre football played in the Uk now you see some foreigners passing able with the heel so you get all excited.

The truth is that the only thing in EPL favor is that it's considered " faster game"..well great but who cares if 3/4 of the players can't stop the ball or 3/4 of the teams can't make more than 5/6 passes in a row?

Most of the goalkeepers are a joke.

Now i do think that the EPL and the FA can teach Italian officials how to make money ( allowing teams to build their own stadiums), how to deal with violent fans and how to deal with players that are not respectful of the game and fans. yes that fo sure.

As far as quality of the plays, tactics, differentiation of type of line ups and yes even players i think the Seria A had not to envy to EPL.

Again Money is always right and the EPL makes lots money and it's a better environment for the fans hence a better league for most.

The match scandal was empathized more than what really was, to those days there are only wire tapping and not real proof of money exchange.

In span and Germany referees were paid under the table but the respective Football associations kept it covered so nobody called the scandal.

In Italy KAKA is not the best player, in one of the best:

Totti ( when healthy), Del Piero,Giovinco, De Rossi, Pirlo, Di Natale, Mascara, Miccoli, Acquilani, Pazzini, Cassano, Buffon, Abbiati,Santon...


man i can continue the list.


Yes i agree with you when you say that the FA invested and changed the face of the EPL, i wish they did that in Italy. Team are not allowed to own the stadium and this is a big drawback.

Players go to EPL just for money, they are professionals so they do thier job.We all would do this.

Luckily there are players like Kaka' which i can BET you that he wont live us simply because his goal is to be the next captain of AC Milan. This will happen.


I am not sure you knowledge of international footbal nut i don't think you watch many International leagues.

The Brazilian league is terrible, slow, slow and slow they keep the grass tall on purpose and also to facilitate the control of the ball.

The Argentinian league is way better and definitely betwtr than most European league.

To sum this up i suggest you to read " the Italian JOB" written bu GianLuca Vialli the former Chelsea Striker where he interviews Many FA officials, coaches and referee.

You'll be surprise reading comments by how the FA "studies" the Seria A in many ways,FA
officials take weekly trips to Coverciano, the Italian Federal Football Academy,where they learn how to organize "courses" for EPL Coachs.


The Referee department visit with regularity Collina ( head of the Italian referee) to learn training techniques.


Maybe you can read the part where the most of the EPL are interviewed , maybe you should read what they say about the Serie A and how the "study" the games.



Beside the different opinions we have this is a good book if you like football:

The Italian Job

The Duck 03-16-2009 07:41 AM

fucking awesome :D

Si 03-16-2009 08:57 AM

Still talking shit are you?

Ok then.

Serie A does not have the World Class Players the EPL has. Kaka is the best player in the league and it is really hard to think of anyone else anywhere near as good as him in Serie A.

The EPL has far more World Class players, including:

Ronaldo, Rooney, Gerrard, Fabregas, Rio Ferdinand, John Terry, Gary Neville, Torres, Deco, Drogba, Ballack, Berbatov, Giggs, Vidic, Cech, Van der Sar, Balletti, Evra, Scholes,

Many more i've missed off!

This is also bullshit:
Milan: Inzagi-Pato with Beckham right behind ( otherwise Kaka and Ronaldhino when they are not injured)

David Beckham is NOT a striker! he's a midfielder.

Manchester untited on Saturday against LFC played with 4 forwards(3 strikers):

Rooney, Ronaldo, Tevez, and Berbatov (all world class players).

The Serie A is slow, defensive, boring and the matches are terrible to watch.

The french league, La Liga and the EPL are all far more entertaining to watch.

You saying about that book 'the italin job'

Written by Vialli, When was it published? i'm willing to bet longer than 5 years ago.

Also the Scandal in Serie A was terrible and shows how fixed and corrupt the league is.

I would rather watch PSG vs Marseille (which I did yesterday) and enjoy the match flowing from end to end instead of 8 defenders passing the ball about in there own half before even thinking of attacking.

All the english sides play very attacking football and it's excellent to watch.

The EPL also is the most watched league in the world and has more fans and viewers than any other league in the world.

Channel 4 in the UK used to have football italia on a sunday and it was canceled and removed because the amount of viewers was low and dropping because viewers found the games boring, slow and not entertaining.

Also going back to the champions League there has been An english team in the final for 5 years in a row. this will probably 6 this year.

You can rave all you want about referees, referees do not make matches interesting, exciting or of a higher quality they merely inforce those who play in the matches.

The EPL and La Liga are far more superior in quality than the Serie A.

Bryan G 03-16-2009 09:55 AM

The Italian Football team in training

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ccDyp2aRRCg

marcop 03-16-2009 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Platinum Bryan (Post 15635219)
The Italian Football team in training

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ccDyp2aRRCg

That's just too fucking funny.

MOxxx 03-16-2009 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Platinum Bryan (Post 15635219)
The Italian Football team in training

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ccDyp2aRRCg



sure, who is this guy?


https://youtube.com/watch?v=h7zB6o6nHXQ

MOxxx 03-16-2009 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mobilefun1987 (Post 15635022)
Still talking shit are you?

Ok then.

Serie A does not have the World Class Players the EPL has. Kaka is the best player in the league and it is really hard to think of anyone else anywhere near as good as him in Serie A.

The EPL has far more World Class players, including:

Ronaldo, Rooney, Gerrard, Fabregas, Rio Ferdinand, John Terry, Gary Neville, Torres, Deco, Drogba, Ballack, Berbatov, Giggs, Vidic, Cech, Van der Sar, Balletti, Evra, Scholes,

Many more i've missed off!

This is also bullshit:
Milan: Inzagi-Pato with Beckham right behind ( otherwise Kaka and Ronaldhino when they are not injured)

David Beckham is NOT a striker! he's a midfielder.

Manchester untited on Saturday against LFC played with 4 forwards(3 strikers):

Rooney, Ronaldo, Tevez, and Berbatov (all world class players).

The Serie A is slow, defensive, boring and the matches are terrible to watch.

The french league, La Liga and the EPL are all far more entertaining to watch.

You saying about that book 'the italin job'

Written by Vialli, When was it published? i'm willing to bet longer than 5 years ago.

Also the Scandal in Serie A was terrible and shows how fixed and corrupt the league is.

I would rather watch PSG vs Marseille (which I did yesterday) and enjoy the match flowing from end to end instead of 8 defenders passing the ball about in there own half before even thinking of attacking.

All the english sides play very attacking football and it's excellent to watch.

The EPL also is the most watched league in the world and has more fans and viewers than any other league in the world.

Channel 4 in the UK used to have football italia on a sunday and it was canceled and removed because the amount of viewers was low and dropping because viewers found the games boring, slow and not entertaining.

Also going back to the champions League there has been An english team in the final for 5 years in a row. this will probably 6 this year.

You can rave all you want about referees, referees do not make matches interesting, exciting or of a higher quality they merely inforce those who play in the matches.

The EPL and La Liga are far more superior in quality than the Serie A.

Go back to play with Game Boy.

Bryan G 03-16-2009 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MOxxx (Post 15635655)

His parents are probably Italian.

MOxxx 03-16-2009 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Platinum Bryan (Post 15635946)
His parents are probably Italian.

I saw him wearing the same purple scarf you have....

Scott McD 03-16-2009 12:42 PM

85% of GFY are still wondering who the fuck Mourinho is lol...

pornguy 03-16-2009 12:45 PM

WHO??? Oh, Its about sports.. Never mind.

MOxxx 03-16-2009 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 15635961)
85% of GFY are still wondering who the fuck Mourinho is lol...


hahahha this is the best post about this Thread!!

Scott i have been trying to get in touch with you with No luck, i get your emails but it seems you don't get my replies?

I wish i could post here what i have to tell you but i would be banned for life :)

Let's i created a place for adult webmasters to talk about football.

Si 03-16-2009 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MOxxx (Post 15635700)
Go back to play with Game Boy.

Is that your come back? :1orglaugh

Thats almost as pathetic as your football knowledge :Oh crap

Ross 03-16-2009 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MOxxx (Post 15634787)


I am not sure you knowledge of international footbal nut i don't think you watch many International leagues.

The Brazilian league is terrible, slow, slow and slow they keep the grass tall on purpose and also to facilitate the control of the ball.

The Argentinian league is way better and definitely betwtr than most European league.

You are the one who said the National side determines the standard of the league. I kindly point out to you that Brazil and Argentina are - in my opinion - the two best International teams in the world therefore going by your reasoning, Brazillian and Argentinian leagues should be the best in the world. My whole point is that your point was wrong.

Yes Brazil and Argentina are amazing International teams. Their leagues however are not good. EPL teams beat them, Italian teams beat them, Spanish teams beat them.

Get what I mean?

Here is what you said

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Originally Posted by MOxxx (Post 15634787)
The national team is the expression of the league.

That was one of your reasons for saying the EPL is not the best because the English National team sucked in the previous 4 or 5 competitions.

You do make some valid points in your arguements actually. Italy is full of good players, its just not as good as the Premier League. Too defense minded, too slow, too much cheating (yes there are divers in England as well not as much tho)

Funny how all the Football fans on here all agree that the EPL is the best. You are so biased towards the Italian league tho. Football is a personal opinion tho, you prefer to watch Serie A which is totally fine. Just don't be fooled and think it is better than the EPL.

As for the book you suggest I read, Gianluca Vialli stated in an interview when he was Chelsea Manager that he prefered the EPL to Serie A. I'll try and dig up that article for you. Any decent manager being paid big money should always big up the t eam paying his salary.

scottybuzz 03-16-2009 06:13 PM

You think the italian league is the best in the world?
Seriously pass me your crackpipe now. I need to try what your smoking.
You get the stars who have been passed on in England. (Beckham, Mourinho)
And your best players leave for better teams. (Zola, Zidane, Ronaldo).

I cant think of many stars in england who have actually left for other leagues except beckham. They only leave when slowing down. At their peak they play prem.

end of

MOxxx 03-16-2009 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 15637535)
You think the italian league is the best in the world?
Seriously pass me your crackpipe now. I need to try what your smoking.
You get the stars who have been passed on in England. (Beckham, Mourinho)
And your best players leave for better teams. (Zola, Zidane, Ronaldo).

I cant think of many stars in england who have actually left for other leagues except beckham. They only leave when slowing down. At their peak they play prem.

end of

I think you should actually stop smoking crack.

MOxxx 03-18-2009 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mobilefun1987 (Post 15637318)
Is that your come back? :1orglaugh

Thats almost as pathetic as your football knowledge :Oh crap


When does school finish?

Bryan G 03-18-2009 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MOxxx (Post 15644230)
When does school finish?

You seriously suck ass at insulting people, I'd work on that :2 cents:

MOxxx 03-20-2009 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Platinum Bryan (Post 15644289)
You seriously suck ass at insulting people, I'd work on that :2 cents:

I wasn't really planning to offend people. just some fun.

Maybe i'll take lessons from you so when i grow up i can be a cool affiliate rep on gfy too.

Si 03-20-2009 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MOxxx (Post 15644230)
When does school finish?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOxxx (Post 15652938)
I wasn't really planning to offend people. just some fun.

Maybe i'll take lessons from you so when i grow up i can be a cool affiliate rep on gfy too.

You should've let this thread die.

We already know you don't know anything about football

And now trying to insult everyone is just making you look even more Pathetic.

Your football knowledge is Pathetic, and your Pathetic. now :321GFY


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