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03-07-2009, 09:11 PM

President Obama declared in an interview that the United States was not winning the war in Afghanistan and opened the door to a reconciliation process in which the American military would reach out to moderate elements of the Taliban

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/08/us...bama.html?_r=1

Imagine if we had "reached" out to the Nazis. Obama is fucking insane.
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03-07-2009, 09:15 PM

Originally posted by Splum

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/08/us...bama.html?_r=1

Imagine if we had "reached" out to the Nazis. Obama is fucking insane.

LOL, you do realize that the American government had extensive diplomatic relations, trade and cultural exchange with the Nazi government of Germany for many years before the war, right?
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03-07-2009, 09:16 PM

obama is a rag head why not.

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03-07-2009, 09:20 PM

He's a Muslim camouflaged as a Christian. He only played a Christian to get votes of all those brainwashed faggots.
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03-07-2009, 09:24 PM

O' who? O' What? yea what they said..............
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03-07-2009, 09:38 PM

Originally posted by Jim_Gunn

LOL, you do realize that the American government had extensive diplomatic relations, trade and cultural exchange with the Nazi government of Germany for many years before the war, right?

Are "before" and/or "after" a war the best argument?
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03-07-2009, 09:42 PM

I think sitting down with your enemy is a good idea. The alternative is to turn your enemies land into a parking lot OR to keep sending our soldiers there, spending money and killing innocent people.
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03-07-2009, 09:48 PM

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Are "before" and/or "after" a war the best argument?

I dont excactly know but why did the us wait so long to get into the war. They only really got into the war after german subs shot and destroyed cruise liners not using a designed zig zag pattern to avoid torpidos so they could travel faster.

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03-07-2009, 09:49 PM

There's no talking to those people. They're fucking animals.
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03-07-2009, 09:51 PM

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I think sitting down with your enemy is a good idea. The alternative is to turn your enemies land into a parking lot OR to keep sending our soldiers there, spending money and killing innocent people.

Agreed. How is talking to someone a bad idea?

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03-07-2009, 09:51 PM

Originally posted by MindWaste

I dont excactly know but why did the us wait so long to get into the war. They only really got into the war after german subs shot and destroyed cruise liners not using a designed zig zag pattern to avoid torpidos so they could travel faster.

What war are you talking about?
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03-07-2009, 09:53 PM

Originally posted by baddog

What war are you talking about?

Are you really expecting any sort of coherent answer or have a hope of a coherent dialog?

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03-07-2009, 09:59 PM

Originally posted by uno

Are you really expecting any sort of coherent answer or have a hope of a coherent dialog?

Shhhh, I am hunting idiots.
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03-07-2009, 10:08 PM

Originally posted by baddog

What war are you talking about?

Probably the one we had with germany I believe it was the topic of what you quoted and i replyed to. ww2.

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03-07-2009, 10:09 PM

Russia spent 10 years there and lost. We have been there for over 7 and we're still losing.

Aside from deciding that Afghan civilians are fair targets in the name of cleaning things up, I don't see how there is anything more we can do that will be a difference maker.

There is no way we are going to drop nukes (which at this point is what that country deserves). The middle east would go nuts and we'd probably see terrorism all the time.

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03-07-2009, 10:14 PM

Originally posted by Matt 26z

Russia spent 10 years there and lost. We have been there for over 7 and we're still losing.

Aside from deciding that Afghan civilians are fair targets in the name of cleaning things up, I don't see how there is anything more we can do that will be a difference maker.

There is no way we are going to drop nukes (which at this point is what that country deserves). The middle east would go nuts and we'd probably see terrorism all the time.

A nuke whould be fun to look at but a good reason to be thier is for troop training, intel gathering at their position, and locations for permant us bases incase we do have a "major" war we are in position. Especally if it is a nucular war on the last one.

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03-07-2009, 10:14 PM

Originally posted by MindWaste

Probably the one we had with germany I believe it was the topic of what you quoted and i replyed to. ww2.

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03-07-2009, 10:25 PM

Good maybe that will distract him from completely destroying the US stock market and economy.

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03-07-2009, 10:29 PM

Didn't they come to Texas when Bush was Governor to talk about an oil pipeline?

Oh yeah, they did:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/west_asia/37021.stm

It's all about oil and money folks, nothing to do with terrorism. Carry on.

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03-07-2009, 10:36 PM

Originally posted by marzzo

Didn't they come to Texas when Bush was Governor to talk about an oil pipeline?

Oh yeah, they did:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/west_asia/37021.stm

It's all about oil and money folks, nothing to do with terrorism. Carry on.

#1. They came to talk to an oil company, not a governor.
#2. We used to be on the same side . . . . kinda, sorta.
#3. I highly doubt they would today.
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03-07-2009, 10:37 PM

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A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

That whould be my name.

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03-07-2009, 10:38 PM

Originally posted by baddog

#3. I highly doubt they would today.

You're right BD, they would go to the Whitehouse.

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03-07-2009, 10:39 PM

Talking to a company is now representative of talking to the United States government?
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Originally posted by marzzo

Didn't they come to Texas when Bush was Governor to talk about an oil pipeline? Oh yeah, they did: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/west_asia/37021.stm It's all about oil and money folks, nothing to do with terrorism. Carry on.
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03-07-2009, 10:46 PM

Dosent Saudia arabia have control or some portion of owner ship in alot of us sea ports? Do we treat a country in the same area and same historys and beliefs in an area diffrent just for position just like i said in a earlyier post?

Saudi arebia is small country but thier money comes from the same places as the taliban and iraq.

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03-07-2009, 10:47 PM

You guys are right, Dubya never had any links to oil companies.

As I said, carry on ;)

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03-07-2009, 11:01 PM

Originally posted by MindWaste

That whould be my name.

I have always thought it quite appropriate.

Originally posted by LiveDose

You're right BD, they would go to the Whitehouse.

Apparently they may be invited.

Originally posted by MindWaste

Saudi arebia is small country but thier money comes from the same places as the taliban and iraq.

You are entertaining, I will give you that. Stick with comedy, your rapping skills suck.

Originally posted by marzzo

You guys are right, Dubya never had any links to oil companies.

As I said, carry on ;)

You are really reaching if you think circumstances are even close to the same.
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03-07-2009, 11:15 PM

Petraeus and Bush funded and made deals with militias in Iraq to stabilize the country. The very same militias who have killed US soldiers.
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03-08-2009, 12:15 AM

Originally posted by Splum

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/08/us...bama.html?_r=1

Imagine if we had "reached" out to the Nazis. Obama is fucking insane.

You're a fucking moron...
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=6132704

The US military knows what they need to do to win... How did the military supress the insurgency in Iraq? By doing an end run around Bush, Cheney and Rumsfield to talk to the enemy and to actually PAY THEM not to attack the US forces... The military wants to do the same think in Afganistan... Obama (and Bush before him) are just considering doing exactly what the military is telling them needs to be done in order to win... Isn't that what they're supposed to do? God damn some of you should be lined up and shot for being so fucking retarded.
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03-08-2009, 12:25 AM

Originally posted by baddog

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03-08-2009, 12:30 AM

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03-08-2009, 12:31 AM

That's bloody insane.

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03-08-2009, 04:35 AM

Originally posted by Splum

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/08/us...bama.html?_r=1

Imagine if we had "reached" out to the Nazis. Obama is fucking insane.

If the Brits/French/US would have reached out to the moderate germans the Nazis would never won the elections in 1932....
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03-08-2009, 04:40 AM

Originally posted by hjnet

If the Brits/French/US would have reached out to the moderate germans the Nazis would never won the elections in 1932....

Was thier a reason before the election for people to speak against the party?

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03-08-2009, 05:03 AM

Originally posted by MindWaste

I dont excactly know but why did the us wait so long to get into the war. They only really got into the war after german subs shot and destroyed cruise liners not using a designed zig zag pattern to avoid torpidos so they could travel faster.

You ever heard of Pearl Harbour you fucking moron?
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03-08-2009, 05:05 AM

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You ever heard of Pearl Harbour you fucking moron?

Yer a retard japan attacked pearl harbor way after the us joined the war. Why whould germanys ally attack a major power not even yet involved in the war yet?

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03-08-2009, 05:42 AM

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(WOMENSENEWS)?The Bush administration has given Afghanistan $43 million including $10 million for ?other livelihood and food security programs,? a reference to the ruling Taliban's ban on poppy cultivation that dramatically changed the economy of the war-torn nation. The poppy is the source of opium and the crop had provided significant revenues to Afghan farmers. The aid was described as humanitarian.

In addition to being an ally in the U.S. war against drugs, the Taliban also has banned the education of girls and women. It has banned women from professions and from most outside-the-home employment, even with international relief agencies. It has banned women from seeing male doctors and it prevents women from practicing medicine.

Colin Powell, in announcing the gift, said the administration hoped that the Taliban "will act on a number of fundamental issues that separate us: their support of terrorism, their violation of internationally recognized human rights--especially their treatment of women and girls--and their refusal to resolve Afghanistan's civil war through a negotiated settlement." He also called on other nation's to join the U.S. with ?dispatch and energy.?

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03-08-2009, 06:30 AM

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03-08-2009, 06:33 AM

Originally posted by hjnet

If the Brits/French/US would have reached out to the moderate germans the Nazis would never won the elections in 1932....

If the Brits/French had tossed even a crumb or two to any pre Hitler, interwar, German government that would probably have been enough to keep the nazis out of power. One of the main reasons the German public took such a liking to old Adolf is because their country's neighbors took the man (and by extension their own country) seriously

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03-08-2009, 06:36 AM

Originally posted by MindWaste

Yer a retard japan attacked pearl harbor way after the us joined the war. Why whould germanys ally attack a major power not even yet involved in the war yet?

"In World War II, the Japanese had attacked Pearl Harbor on the previous day, December 7, 1941. On December 11, Hitler and Mussolini declared war on America and the U.S. Congress responded in kind."

We were supplying Britain but were we were not in the war.
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03-08-2009, 06:54 AM

Give it a fucking rest.

In 4 years you can start your anti-obama campaign and see what happens then.

Until then he's the prez so shut the fuck up.
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03-08-2009, 07:02 AM

Originally posted by GregE

If the Brits/French had tossed even a crumb or two to any pre Hitler, interwar, German government that would probably have been enough to keep the nazis out of power. One of the main reasons the German public took such a liking to old Adolf is because their country's neighbors took the man (and by extension their own country) seriously

Ok so lets say how people say our president is a tool and yes he is a carasmatiic speaker but thats is all he is is a tool or puppet.. I never really listen to him yet but thatts what they say about any president.

Sence hiter was the tool/carasmatic speaker why it such his fault. He got it done and that happned to be his time that he was in power. Not even our president whould stop even if he was in power at a bad time. Which seems to be now. Not that is his fault and it is somthing as horrable as a holocost but things are being slipped by in this horrable disfunction the world is in.

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03-08-2009, 07:15 AM

Good we need to end that war ASAP before we go broke. I doubt Obama really is serious about ending the war. He really is itching to attack Pakistan.
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03-08-2009, 08:27 AM

Originally posted by MindWaste

Was thier a reason before the election for people to speak against the party?

There were food riots in Germany prior to Hitler. That is how bad it was. The good things he did for Germany actually make him one of the greatest leaders of all time (up to that point), but it's taboo to say such a thing because of what he would later do.

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03-08-2009, 09:33 AM

You are banned from saying anything bad about Obama from now on. He talks pretty and has people who worship him so he is out of bounds.. especially for people who think.

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03-08-2009, 09:48 AM

Originally posted by Matt 26z

There were food riots in Germany prior to Hitler. That is how bad it was. The good things he did for Germany actually make him one of the greatest leaders of all time (up to that point), but it's taboo to say such a thing because of what he would later do.

Someone that actually knows the reality of Germany. Kudos to you.

Germany was fucked up and still recoiling from WWI and also from the depression.

Hitler unified the country and brought national pride to the Germans when everyone else was looking down on them. Then he decided to follow through on his ultimate goals, which is where it all went bad. As Matt said, his leadership to that point places him as one of the greatest of all time.. then.. oh shit.

I have always found it interesting that Russia refers to itself or is referred to as "Mother Russia" and Germany is fondly referred to by Germans as "the Fatherland" Two countries/peoples that are taught that their national identity is paramount and that the idea of being 2nd to anything is 100% unacceptable. Goes a long way to explaining them politically and militarily.

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03-08-2009, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by babebuns

You ever heard of Pearl Harbour you fucking moron?

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Originally posted by MindWaste

Yer a retard japan attacked pearl harbor way after the us joined the war. Why whould germanys ally attack a major power not even yet involved in the war yet?

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03-08-2009, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by baddog

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03-08-2009, 01:33 PM

shut the hell up splum. get a life. and stay out of obamas. stop pole jockin

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03-08-2009, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by GirlBri

shut the hell up splum. get a life. and stay out of obamas. stop pole jockin

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