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  • helpanewbie
    Registered User
    • Sep 2008
    • 8
    #1

    Is this a fraud sale?

    Hello,
    I am new to this affiliate system, I would really appreciate your replies and comments but not making fun out of this silly question

    I have friends who sign up for porn sites by directly going to the site and sign up. What I did that I sign up as a webmaster and told my friends to sign up from my link so that I could get some bucks. On doing this, they got the account, I even got sales but at the end of the month, I got an e-mail telling me I did fraud sales and I will not receive the money. Please let me know was it a legal sale or not?
    Thanks!
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    • Robocrop
      Confirmed User
      • Aug 2008
      • 2785
      #2
      Seems like it

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        • John.
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2007
          • 2264
          #3
          Did your friends cancel their memberships maybe?
          Sig too old.

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                • Tjeezers
                  Webmaster
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 16602
                  #5
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                    • james_clickmemedia
                      Confirmed User
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 2204
                      #6
                      yes thats fraud as there is no way for the program to make money if your friends cancel before the monthly re-bill. We do like the chance of making money.
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                        • Splum
                          Confirmed User
                          • May 2003
                          • 6195
                          #7
                          Originally posted by james_clickmemedia
                          yes thats fraud as there is no way for the program to make money if your friends cancel before the monthly re-bill. We do like the chance of making money.
                          I dont see where he said his friends canceled their memberships.

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                            • HorseShit
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 17513
                              #8
                              Originally posted by Splum
                              I dont see where he said his friends canceled their memberships.

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                                • HorseShit
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Dec 2004
                                  • 17513
                                  #9
                                  anyways, they probably flagged it for fraud because your ratio was 5:5 lol

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                                    • MindWaste
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Mar 2001
                                      • 3662
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by jdavis
                                      anyways, they probably flagged it for fraud because your ratio was 5:5 lol
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                                        • SBJ
                                          So Fucking Fabulous
                                          • Apr 2003
                                          • 11387
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by jdavis
                                          anyways, they probably flagged it for fraud because your ratio was 5:5 lol

                                          but did they refund those 5 sales then? Cause that would be cheating on their part if they took the members money but didn't pay the affiliate or am I missing something.. I could see how programs might frown on this when doing $100PPS days or something but..

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                                            • AnniKN
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Feb 2008
                                              • 1682
                                              #12
                                              If he says "some bucks" I am guessing it's a revshare program, if he made other sales and they're cancelling him because of a too high ratio and it's not a PPS case where the friend cancelled the trial then I do find it unfair...

                                              After all, he could have simply asked for a "review pass" and give it to his friend for free instead ;) now THAT would be worse for sure? we need more info though, to make a final call.

                                              Thinking on brick and mortar stores... you won't deny that it'd be better to sell stuff to my friends with employee discount or commission, than to steal from the warehouse for them, no?
                                              Last edited by AnniKN; 03-07-2009, 04:35 PM.

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                                                • Joe BrainCash
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Mar 2006
                                                  • 2092
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Silent Bob Jedi
                                                  but did they refund those 5 sales then? Cause that would be cheating on their part if they took the members money but didn't pay the affiliate or am I missing something.. I could see how programs might frown on this when doing $100PPS days or something but..
                                                  It's still a fraud if it you break the terms and conditions ( assuming the terms of the program in question says you can't have friends or relative sign up through your aff link).
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                                                    • Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life
                                                      (felis madjewicus)
                                                      • Jul 2006
                                                      • 20368
                                                      #14
                                                      Networks don't like you incentivizing their sales. Makes it too easy for you to spot all the shaving, scrubbing, and assfucking they are doing to their affiliates.

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                                                        • Iron Fist
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Dec 2006
                                                          • 23400
                                                          #15
                                                          always strange if a new affiliate that no ones heard of makes a sale with less than 1:10 to join page.

                                                          and it probably doesn't help either if the "friend" is signing up with bogus info or using the same address/information as you are.
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                                                            • SBJ
                                                              So Fucking Fabulous
                                                              • Apr 2003
                                                              • 11387
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by sharphead
                                                              always strange if a new affiliate that no ones heard of makes a sale with less than 1:10 to join page.

                                                              and it probably doesn't help either if the "friend" is signing up with bogus info or using the same address/information as you are.

                                                              see that is the type of fraud I've seen before and I would just think you'd want to refund the sale before the CB.. I guess not dealing with trials or PPS with my own program I don't deal with all the tricks that cheating affiliates try to do

                                                              but when i get a new affiliate that makes sales right off the bat i always try to track where his sales/clicks are coming from and sometimes email affiliates if the site they sign up with isn't a live adult site

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                                                                • bdld
                                                                  $100,000
                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                  • 11452
                                                                  #17
                                                                  look at this post and you'll see what he's up to.
                                                                  http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...1#post14857341

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                                                                    • evildick
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by bdld
                                                                      look at this post and you'll see what he's up to.
                                                                      http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...1#post14857341
                                                                      LOL. Friends sign up and pay $30 and he makes $100 a sale.

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                                                                        • sicone
                                                                          Retired
                                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                                          • 18453
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Can you provide your pay to name and I will gladly check all the databases for you

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                                                                            • wtfent
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                                              • 3790
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by helpanewbie
                                                                              Hello,
                                                                              I am new to this affiliate system, I would really appreciate your replies and comments but not making fun out of this silly question

                                                                              I have friends who sign up for porn sites by directly going to the site and sign up. What I did that I sign up as a webmaster and told my friends to sign up from my link so that I could get some bucks. On doing this, they got the account, I even got sales but at the end of the month, I got an e-mail telling me I did fraud sales and I will not receive the money. Please let me know was it a legal sale or not?
                                                                              Thanks!
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                                                                                • mmcfadden
                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                  • Oct 2008
                                                                                  • 5099
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  If a program pays so high on PPS... why not just phrase it "I will send you $200 dollars if you sign up for my program and I feel you are worth it!"

                                                                                  BTW... I will send you $200 dollars if you promote one of my sites... vstrippoker.com and feel you are worth it!

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                                                                                    • helpanewbie
                                                                                      Registered User
                                                                                      • Sep 2008
                                                                                      • 8
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      sure, my ratio was

                                                                                      3:3 so is it kind of a fishy thing? and what should the ratio be that should not sound and look fishy lol?

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                                                                                        • helpanewbie
                                                                                          Registered User
                                                                                          • Sep 2008
                                                                                          • 8
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          and I dont understand why would I be flagged because I have 3:3 ratio?

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                                                                                            • abshard
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                                              • 6524
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by helpanewbie
                                                                                              and I dont understand why would I be flagged because I have 3:3 ratio?

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                                                                                                • mule
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                  • 6085
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by helpanewbie
                                                                                                  sure, my ratio was

                                                                                                  3:3 so is it kind of a fishy thing? and what should the ratio be that should not sound and look fishy lol?
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                                                                                                    • d-null
                                                                                                      . . .
                                                                                                      • Apr 2007
                                                                                                      • 13724
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      is this some kind of creative troll getting their kicks duping us into believing they are just some random retard, or is it really a random retard?

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                                                                                                            • Matt 26z
                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                              • Apr 2002
                                                                                                              • 18481
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by helpanewbie
                                                                                                              sure, my ratio was

                                                                                                              3:3 so is it kind of a fishy thing? and what should the ratio be that should not sound and look fishy lol?
                                                                                                              Fishy, yes. But if you legitimately talked your friends into getting a membership, then you should be paid. If none of them rebilled, then that is the program's fault. They could term you for sending underproductive traffic, but you should still be paid up to that point.
                                                                                                              Last edited by Matt 26z; 03-08-2009, 03:30 AM.

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                                                                                                                • TeenCat
                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a koala
                                                                                                                  • Jan 2007
                                                                                                                  • 16139
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  oh lol people you are funny ... i read first few replies about cancelling etc ... are you that ill? he stated here that he send friend to site for buying a membership for him, to make few bucks, he sent there just those few friends to make him some bucks, and i bet it was pps sales ... what the hell are you thinking about? oh guys its a weekend, but wake up ... and man, go fuck yourself, you landed at the wrong board ...

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                                                                                                                    • Furious_Male
                                                                                                                      Doing the grind since 99
                                                                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                      • 16884
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Matt 26z
                                                                                                                      Fishy, yes. But if you legitimately talked your friends into getting a membership, then you should be paid. If none of them rebilled, then that is the program's fault. They could term you for sending underproductive traffic, but you should still be paid up to that point.
                                                                                                                      You know damn well if he talked his friends into getting a membership they aren't rebilling. "Legitimately" doesn't apply here. Sending family or friends is against the TOS of most programs.

                                                                                                                      Its not the programs fault they aren't rebilling. Its the affiliate using the "sign up under my link and cancel" sales technique. He shouldn't see a dime. If hes paid and terminated for unproductive traffic he can rinse wash and repeat the same scam over and over using numerous epass accounts, aliases etc.
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                                                                                                                        • mule
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                          • 6085
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by TeenCat
                                                                                                                          oh lol people you are funny ... i read first few replies about cancelling etc ... are you that ill? he stated here that he send friend to site for buying a membership for him, to make few bucks, he sent there just those few friends to make him some bucks, and i bet it was pps sales ... what the hell are you thinking about?
                                                                                                                          This is why some sponsors block eastern bloc countries. It's not that you're inherently dishonest, it's just that you seriously don't see why cheating is wrong
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                                                                                                                            • TeenCat
                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a koala
                                                                                                                              • Jan 2007
                                                                                                                              • 16139
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by mule
                                                                                                                              This is why some sponsors block eastern bloc countries. It's not that you're inherently dishonest, it's just that you seriously don't see why cheating is wrong
                                                                                                                              it looks like you didnt understood me well ...

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                                                                                                                                • mmcfadden
                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2008
                                                                                                                                  • 5099
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Furious_Male
                                                                                                                                  You know damn well if he talked his friends into getting a membership they aren't rebilling. "Legitimately" doesn't apply here. Sending family or friends is against the TOS of most programs.

                                                                                                                                  Its not the programs fault they aren't rebilling. Its the affiliate using the "sign up under my link and cancel" sales technique. He shouldn't see a dime. If hes paid and terminated for unproductive traffic he can rinse wash and repeat the same scam over and over using numerous epass accounts, aliases etc.
                                                                                                                                  No it wouldn't be the programs fault they aren't rebilling... but it is the program's fault setting up such ridiculous payouts which are set to fail in the first place.

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                                                                                                                                    • fuzebox
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                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 22352
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by d-null
                                                                                                                                      is this some kind of creative troll getting their kicks duping us into believing they are just some random retard, or is it really a random retard?
                                                                                                                                      Obviously a fake nick

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                                                                                                                                        • Jdoughs
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                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                          • 5794
                                                                                                                                          #35
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                                                                                                                                            • Furious_Male
                                                                                                                                              Doing the grind since 99
                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                              • 16884
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by mmcfadden
                                                                                                                                              No it wouldn't be the programs fault they aren't rebilling... but it is the program's fault setting up such ridiculous payouts which are set to fail in the first place.
                                                                                                                                              I am glad we agree. Your additional comment is another topic all together.
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                                                                                                                                                • TeenCat
                                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a koala
                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2007
                                                                                                                                                  • 16139
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  i am signed up to almost every program, anyone want to change some pps signups?

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                                                                                                                                                    • SmokeyTheBear
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                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                                                      • 28609
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      You wont get any sympathy from gfy. Those huge pps payouts you were after are for incentive not for you to make some extra cash signing up your friends. You arent ripping them off as much as you are ripping off other affiliates who send real join that turn into real profit.

                                                                                                                                                      p.s. thank you for keeping the record of "is this a scam" at 100%
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                                                                                                                                                        • Iron Fist
                                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2006
                                                                                                                                                          • 23400
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                                                                          thank you for keeping the record of "is this a scam" at 100%
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