Web900 question, is IBILL the only one? - GoFuckYourself.com

justsexxx · 11-19-2002, 03:58 AM

Web900 biller?
Hi,

I would like to use a web900 biller for one of my sites...Every site I have visited is using ibill web900

MY question is, is IBILL the only one accepting web900?

ANd, do webmasters get paid for web900 signups? I mean for example this

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/cli...=900293&PA=xxxx

And then to the join now. The links is from CCbill, and as you see the web900 from IBILL. How does a webmaster get credit for that web900 then?

Andre

boldy · 11-19-2002, 03:59 AM

Globill

justsexxx · 11-19-2002, 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by boldy
Globill

Okay

Thnx

But any idea how cumonherface manages it? I mean you go there by ccbill link, and can signup with ibill. Any idea if the webmaster gets credit for those signups? Same for other sponsors with backup processors. DO webmaster get credit for that?

Andre

richard123 · 11-19-2002, 05:18 AM

Some sponsors use backup processors and ask their affiliates to sign up for both.
Others have the affiliate sign up for the sponsor, and then the sponsor opens an account on behalf of the affiliate (on each of the processors).
Some others ask the affiliate which one they wanna use and do not give credit for the backup processor.
And then some just don't credit the affiliate for the backup signups, and there's no choice. If the affiliate asks, they say (something like) "phone signups only account for about 1% of signups."

Oh, and http://www.probilling.com does the phone thing. So does Verotel if my memory serves me...

justsexxx · 11-19-2002, 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by richard123
Some sponsors use backup processors and ask their affiliates to sign up for both.
Others have the affiliate sign up for the sponsor, and then the sponsor opens an account on behalf of the affiliate (on each of the processors).
Some others ask the affiliate which one they wanna use and do not give credit for the backup processor.
And then some just don't credit the affiliate for the backup signups, and there's no choice. If the affiliate asks, they say (something like) "phone signups only account for about 1% of signups."

I see, so it is possible, to open an CC account at jettis, and a web900 account at ibill, and when a webmaster send a surfer to the joinpage, he gets credit for both...? ANy idea where I find more info over this? Like what linkingcodes to use etc?

Andre

richard123 · 11-19-2002, 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by justsexxx

I see, so it is possible, to open an CC account at jettis, and a web900 account at ibill, and when a webmaster send a surfer to the joinpage, he gets credit for both...? ANy idea where I find more info over this? Like what linkingcodes to use etc?

Andre

Basic concept (copy/paste from my post somewhere else):

1. Affiliates can choose to sign with proBilling or Processor2. I recommend they sign with both (so they get paid in either case).

2. Affiliates send hits to http:/www.mysite.com/?1234 (where 1234 is the code I allocate to them).

3. I grab the aff_code and look up who the affiliate is (and his relevant proBilling or Processor2 codes) are (in my mysql database). I keep the query string right thru the site as well as load a cookie so I can track them for a while and make sure the right affiliate gets credit if the surfer returns another time.

... so basically you need to script it yourself or buy a script (a lot of $$$ usually)

justsexxx · 11-19-2002, 05:38 AM

Thnx Richard. I appreciate your help very much. I'm not a real good programmer, so I guess I have to buy this script idea

Andre

PS Richard, kan you contact me on icq 125184542 or email vander.merwe@chello DOT nl?

Andre

boldy · 11-19-2002, 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by justsexxx
Thnx Richard. I appreciate your help very much. I'm not a real good programmer, so I guess I have to buy this script idea

Andre

PS Richard, kan you contact me on icq 125184542 or email vander.merwe@chello DOT nl?

Andre

If you have the Bling, i have the fingers

justsexxx · 11-19-2002, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by boldy

If you have the Bling, i have the fingers

Hi, well contact me on ICQ, Depends on how much bling

daddynastee · 11-19-2002, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by justsexxx
...is IBILL the only one accepting web900?

Check out Verotel -- they've got the best deal for their 900 billing, and lots of options for folks in Europe who like to pay by the minute on the phone. We dropped iBill last week after all their bullshit with WorldCom's bankruptcy, which for iBill seems to keep going on and on and on and on... (ie. no payouts for months).

Globill charges too much for the processing (30%) and their hold back is huge (like 45% I think) and long (one year before they send it back to you).

justsexxx · 11-20-2002, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by daddynastee

Check out Verotel -- they've got the best deal for their 900 billing, and lots of options for folks in Europe who like to pay by the minute on the phone. We dropped iBill last week after all their bullshit with WorldCom's bankruptcy, which for iBill seems to keep going on and on and on and on... (ie. no payouts for months).

Globill charges too much for the processing (30%) and their hold back is huge (like 45% I think) and long (one year before they send it back to you).

THnx I will take a look at www.verotel.com You know them well?

daddynastee · 11-20-2002, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by justsexxx

THnx I will take a look at www.verotel.com You know them well?

We just started using them -- they seem to have their shit together. Won't know until the checks start coming in, etc. I'd considered them as an alternate billing set up for cc transactions, but I don't like their 15.00 fee (to the webmaster) for chargebacks. But their pay by phone thing looks great.

SpeakEasy · 11-20-2002, 12:21 AM

Don't use ibill anyway. Don't you all remember just 3 months ago ibill fucked people for thousands of dollars??..They said since they didn't get payed, they weren't paying anyone for their earned phone money??.....they are scum bag scammers, don't trust your hard earned money to a know scammer....
Just my 2 cents

justsexxx · 11-20-2002, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SpeakEasy
Don't use ibill anyway. Don't you all remember just 3 months ago ibill fucked people for thousands of dollars??..They said since they didn't get payed, they weren't paying anyone for their earned phone money??.....they are scum bag scammers, don't trust your hard earned money to a know scammer....
Just my 2 cents

No won't using ibill... Verotel looks good, how is their scrubbing and chargeback?

11-19-2002, 03:58 AM	#1
justsexxx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 13,723	Web900 question, is IBILL the only one? Web900 biller? Hi, I would like to use a web900 biller for one of my sites...Every site I have visited is using ibill web900 MY question is, is IBILL the only one accepting web900? ANd, do webmasters get paid for web900 signups? I mean for example this http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/cli...=900293&PA=xxxx And then to the join now. The links is from CCbill, and as you see the web900 from IBILL. How does a webmaster get credit for that web900 then? Andre __________________ Questions? ICQ: 125184542

11-19-2002, 03:59 AM	#2
boldy Macdaddy coder Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: MacDaddy pimp coder Posts: 2,806	Globill __________________ MacDaddy Coder.

11-19-2002, 05:18 AM	#4
richard123 Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 491	Some sponsors use backup processors and ask their affiliates to sign up for both. Others have the affiliate sign up for the sponsor, and then the sponsor opens an account on behalf of the affiliate (on each of the processors). Some others ask the affiliate which one they wanna use and do not give credit for the backup processor. And then some just don't credit the affiliate for the backup signups, and there's no choice. If the affiliate asks, they say (something like) "phone signups only account for about 1% of signups." Oh, and http://www.probilling.com does the phone thing. So does Verotel if my memory serves me... Last edited by richard123; 11-19-2002 at 05:20 AM..

11-19-2002, 05:38 AM	#7
justsexxx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 13,723	Thnx Richard. I appreciate your help very much. I'm not a real good programmer, so I guess I have to buy this script idea Andre PS Richard, kan you contact me on icq 125184542 or email vander.merwe@chello DOT nl? Andre __________________ Questions? ICQ: 125184542 Last edited by justsexxx; 11-19-2002 at 05:48 AM..

11-20-2002, 12:21 AM	#13
SpeakEasy Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Internet Posts: 2,681	Don't use ibill anyway. Don't you all remember just 3 months ago ibill fucked people for thousands of dollars??..They said since they didn't get payed, they weren't paying anyone for their earned phone money??.....they are scum bag scammers, don't trust your hard earned money to a know scammer.... Just my 2 cents