Originally Posted by PenetratinP (Post 15620865)

I sleep soundly at night with National Net. :)

Originally Posted by PenetratinP (Post 15620865)

I sleep soundly at night with National Net. :)

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 15616593)

phatservers rocks it

Originally Posted by cess (Post 15616655)

I believe Bill from natnet was recently talking about how it's damn near impossible to keep your sites up 24/7 unless you have them hosted at two tier 4 datacenters. Well unless I'm mistaken here natnet site says their datacenter is tier1 standards. Which I'm sure is fine most of the time but if that's true than it's not the best of the best host.


I'd be surprised if any of the other "top adult host" listed have a tier 4 datacenter either. Not that's all that matters, if the support sucks or a ton of other things then the service probably sucks too.

I wonder how many of these "top adult host" can handle a big DDOS attack too. Many host out there cannot handle one, I'd bet these top adult host can't either. Maybe they can get it under control after some serious downtime but then again maybe not if it's your site, some host won't host your stuff if you get hit.

Originally Posted by LBBV (Post 15620649)

You are mistaken. No where on our site does it say we have a lowly tier 1 data center. Even if we did why in the world would we put that on our site? Tier 1 is the worst level data center you can have. Our data center is N+1 on ALL critical infrastructure, including UPS/Gensets, HVAC and core networking. Anyone who has toured our data center can verify that.

You might be referring to this segment on our web site...

"NationalNet's infrastructure has been designed to support the most discriminating and demanding organizations. Based on our state-of-the-art data center facilities and tier-one partnerships, NationalNet's infrastructure delivers the highest levels of security, performance and availability."

Easy mistake to make - and given that you read it the way you did, I may have to restructure that sentence so it's more clear.



Well, I'd be surprised if anyone in the adult industry would PAY the prices that it takes to be in a tier 4 data center. Is anyone here hosted in the softlayer.com DC data center (the one center that they have that is tier 4)? Most likely not because they are cost prohibitive. Here is some data from a Tier 1 Research document (http://www.tier1research.com/).

Cost per square foot to build a 10,000 sq ft data center to 150 W/square foot specifications.

Tier II: ~$875
Tier III: ~$1,250
Tier IV: ~$2,125

Big difference between tier 2 and 4. To do the math, the tier 2 data center costs $8,750,000. The tier 4 costs $21,250,000. That's HUGE.



You DO realize that many customers do not WANT to use control panels? You would be surprised, I think, about the number of people that don't want to know anything about a server, or how it works or what a control panel does. All they care about is managing their site and making money - they'll let someone else deal with the server stuff.

Are hosts like us, Mojo and some of the other great "no control panel" hosts mentioned here for everyone? Of course not. But there is a pretty large demand for us hosts that do a lot of hand holding. Just because a host doesn't offer a control panel doesn't mean that they are a sub-par host. :thumbsup

Okay...I've rambled enough. :)

-- Bill

Originally Posted by LBBV (Post 15620649)

You DO realize that many customers do not WANT to use control panels? You would be surprised, I think, about the number of people that don't want to know anything about a server, or how it works or what a control panel does. All they care about is managing their site and making money - they'll let someone else deal with the server stuff.

Are hosts like us, Mojo and some of the other great "no control panel" hosts mentioned here for everyone? Of course not. But there is a pretty large demand for us hosts that do a lot of hand holding. Just because a host doesn't offer a control panel doesn't mean that they are a sub-par host.

Originally Posted by TurboAngel (Post 15617667)

Well everyone knows what I will say.

:)