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Scott McD 03-06-2009 12:35 PM

Fiddy scat vids.

Mmmmm....

NetHorse 03-06-2009 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 15592433)
I dont know

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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 15592081)
We face the same problems as the music and the movie industry, their hard line approach hasnt worked either.

http://www.ehow.com/how_2299957_use-contractions.html

I can has a off-topic post? :winkwink:

roly 03-06-2009 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 15591748)
when shooting porn and trying to stay away from the evil fisting, the rule is the thumb has to remain on the outside of the vagina. :1orglaugh

four fingers is alright though. LOL

but the evil obscene thumb must not enter the precious flower vag :1orglaugh

that's the rule of thumb is it?

NetHorse 03-06-2009 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 15592579)
Congress cant enforce the copyright laws now, what makes you think they will in ten years? As is evident by the persistent onslaught of piracy websites, file repositories and file sharing destinations.

Here is a little reading for you, still don't think a big change is a possibility? :)

Dated February 27, 2009
http://www.internetnews.com/governme...or+a+Fight.htm

"In its ongoing effort to combat online piracy, the association representing the recording industry recently dropped its policy of filing lawsuits against individual infringers in favor of partnering with Internet service providers to filter for unlawful content. "

"But at a late stage in the negotiations, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., introduced an amendment that would have allowed for "reasonable network management practices such as deterring unlawful activity, including child pornography and copyright infringement.""

Feinstein has previously taken a tough stance on intellectual property rights, cosponsoring the recently enacted PRO IP Act, which stiffened penalties for infringers and called for the formation of a federal intellectual property enforcement office.

Splum 03-06-2009 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 15592880)
Here is a little reading for you, still don't think a big change is a possibility? :)

You are naive if you think copyrights can be enforced worldwide, check this thread in 1 year, 2 years, 3 years, 4 years. You can cite articles all day long but real world practice shows you are wrong. You act like they are just NOW starting to try and stop piracy on the internet. They have been trying for 10+ years. :1orglaugh

Splum 03-06-2009 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 15592830)
http://www.ehow.com/how_2299957_use-contractions.html

I can has a off-topic post? :winkwink:

The difference between misspelling a word (like you did) and proper use of a contraction is huge. In my case it was simple laziness(as is evident by my other postings where I do use proper contractions), in your case it was a lack of knowledge as you continued to misspell the word. :thumbsup

NetHorse 03-07-2009 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 15592905)
You are naive if you think copyrights can be enforced worldwide, check this thread in 1 year, 2 years, 3 years, 4 years. You can cite articles all day long but real world practice shows you are wrong. You act like they are just NOW starting to try and stop piracy on the internet. They have been trying for 10+ years. :1orglaugh

You're naive if you do not think it can't be reduced, that's not just an article, those are FACTS about what's going on in congress today. Read something, learn something, forget about the "netizens" and "internet celebrities" taking over :1orglaugh. There are bigger powers at work, you're in denial & ignorant if you think the last 10 years is indicative of what will happen in the next 10 years. The current bills that are trying to fight piracy with the use of filtering have only been in place for about a year now, genius. It will have more of an effect than you could ever imagine if any site that is caught infringing on copyrights is instantly blocked through all the major telecommunication giants. Obviously it won't ever completely stop it. :error

d-null 03-07-2009 01:42 AM

I was about to post "this thread needs some scat" and post a ******* pic or something, but I changed my mind :pimp

NetHorse 03-07-2009 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 15592919)
In my case it was simple laziness

Sure it was buddy, you want to proofread my posts yet you can't even use proper grammar in your own. What is this, English class? :1orglaugh I guess when your argument about the "netizens" and "internet celebrities" fails you gotta resort to something else. :thumbsup

Paul Markham 03-07-2009 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 15592033)
Yes to a certain extend the internet should be unregulated, we should be able to view any site we want, (I don't believe in "net neutrality" or traffic filtering). However, laws need to be more strict & regulated worldwide, and those who run & support deliberate illegal sites need to face serious consequences. When people are sent to prison it will change the mindset of a lot of companies out there, without as much financial support from advertisers, resources and the threat of real jail time, these huge tube and file sharing sites will fall on their faces fast. No it won't stop copyrighted material from being distributed completely, but even cutting it in half will be a giant step.

How it's regulated is always going to be a problem with so many countries with different laws and the Internet being world wide. But it has to be regulated for it's own good. Maybe if a country decides if something is illegal and an Internet site ignores that law a country can block it's domain. Not 100% but a very effective way of hitting their profit line and it's profit that drives this.

Take Tube8 for instance, they are showing scat videos which are illegal in the US. So the US blocks the domain, AFF don't advertise and Tube8 go bankrupt.

[QUOTE-splum]The war on piracy is like the war on drugs, expensive and ultimately counter-productive. We face the same problems as the music and the movie industry, their hard line approach hasnt worked either. The only thing that works is embracing the new formats and accepting the individual value of your product will become lesser but your base will become broader. Surely most of you know this?[/QUOTE]So if something does not work give up. Great attitude and if we all did this their would be no Internet or a lot of other things we take for granted. Nice to know you're a quitter.

As for the statement that your product will be worth less and the base will be broader. I'm not sure if you really understand this. A broad base of people buying nothing is not going to be a lot of use. They might buy from a dating or cam site, but both those products are falling in revenue. Cam sites are doing badly and I heard dating sites have lost their gloss. Probably more people find free networking sites better.

Yes charging people a fair price for their needs is something I will back and the Tube effect has proved how little we know our customers. Many don't want 30 days recurring, don't give a hoot if it's HD, don't care if it's exclusive and don't want to pay the prices we charged. Some will always want it for free, but the Tube sites are welcome to them. We need the to influence the 1% who do buy, not bother with the 99% who will never buy.

NetHorse 03-07-2009 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 15595244)
How it's regulated is always going to be a problem with so many countries with different laws and the Internet being world wide. But it has to be regulated for it's own good. Maybe if a country decides if something is illegal and an Internet site ignores that law a country can block it's domain. Not 100% but a very effective way of hitting their profit line and it's profit that drives this.


Take Tube8 for instance, they are showing scat videos which are illegal in the US. So the US blocks the domain, AFF don't advertise and Tube8 go bankrupt.

I agree, but I worry if a bill like this passes the telecommunication giants can go too far. For example they can block traffic for unreasonable reasons, such as a payout to eliminate competition.


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The war on piracy is like the war on drugs, expensive and ultimately counter-productive. We face the same problems as the music and the movie industry, their hard line approach hasnt worked either. The only thing that works is embracing the new formats and accepting the individual value of your product will become lesser but your base will become broader. Surely most of you know this?
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So if something does not work give up. Great attitude and if we all did this their would be no Internet or a lot of other things we take for granted. Nice to know you're a quitter.
I don't think he's a quitter, he obviously runs some sort of shady site, but again I agree. :upsidedow

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Yes charging people a fair price for their needs is something I will back and the Tube effect has proved how little we know our customers. Many don't want 30 days recurring, don't give a hoot if it's HD, don't care if it's exclusive and don't want to pay the prices we charged.
What's odd is the programs that cost the most for the end-user convert the best for me. :)

Splum 03-07-2009 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 15595244)
Yes charging people a fair price for their needs is something I will back and the Tube effect has proved how little we know our customers. Many don't want 30 days recurring, don't give a hoot if it's HD, don't care if it's exclusive and don't want to pay the prices we charged. Some will always want it for free, but the Tube sites are welcome to them. We need the to influence the 1% who do buy, not bother with the 99% who will never buy.

We have ABUSED the 1% that do buy porn by check boxing multi-joins, oversold non-exclusive content, and unfriendly user interfaces. We DONT know our customers that is absolutely true. The porn industry has stopped innovating as a whole and has started bleeding the customers good faith. I am all for protecting assets but you are slowly losing the ability to sell those goods and you must adapt and learn how to gain NEW customers from that 99% you have already "given" up on. Sometimes I really question how many of you have true business backgrounds, and thats not a personal attack on you Paul thats just a general blanket statement.

Reak AGV 03-07-2009 02:12 AM

About time, been waiting on this ;)

Paul Markham 03-07-2009 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 15595253)
I agree, but I worry if a bill like this passes the telecommunication giants can go too far. For example they can block traffic for unreasonable reasons, such as a payout to eliminate competition.

It has to be termed in a way to make sure this does not happen. It obviously can't be a decision for the ISP.

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What's odd is the programs that cost the most for the end-user convert the best for me. :)
And when we put in the $2.95 trials and 3 days for $5 our sales went up. We now opened the site so the surfer can see what he's buying and initial response is good. How you price a product is not just as simple as raising it to get more. Depends on the product.

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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 15595265)
We have ABUSED the 1% that do buy porn by check boxing multi-joins, oversold non-exclusive content, and unfriendly user interfaces. We DONT know our customers that is absolutely true. The porn industry has stopped innovating as a whole and has started bleeding the customers good faith. I am all for protecting assets but you are slowly losing the ability to sell those goods and you must adapt and learn how to gain NEW customers from that 99% you have already "given" up on. Sometimes I really question how many of you have true business backgrounds, and thats not a personal attack on you Paul thats just a general blanket statement.

We not only abused the 1% we geared our industry to the needs of the 99% who did not buy. We spent a fortune on the outside of a site and cut what was inside.

As for adapting and my business sense. I've been in business for 30 years and I'm sure if the recording industry can't come up with a solution you and I can't either.

And cutting an industries revenue by 50% or more is not adapting. It's surviving.

The amazing irony of this is the people who were telling me the Adult Net was going to close porn magazines and movies and that was a good thing. Are now moaning that they are getting closed down. :Oh crap


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