The (il)legal side of spamming??

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  • danevans
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2001
    • 1295
    #1

    The (il)legal side of spamming??

    I just got an interesting email from some spamming organisation, it goes like this (urls and emails removed):
    - - - - - - - - -
    We offer you e-mail addresses databases for advertisement
    mailing; we sell databases also carry out mailing and hosting
    for the advertising projects.
    We can work on a turnkey project create a site with original design,
    program and subject contents. Our databases updates constantly
    with the e-mail addresses from all over the world.

    Their validity and originality are verified. Today they contains over
    than 50 million addresses.
    We use our own mailing soft which can be ideally adjusted for every
    customer. We have a high-speed channel and a high power server.

    The constant of our service demand allows us to keep low prices.

    http://www.yyy.xxx

    Please don't hesitate to contact us anytime!
    We'll be happy to answer every your question!

    HTTP: www.yyy.xxx
    E-mail: [email protected]

    We received your address from a public area.
    We apologize if this letter has reached you by mistake.
    We'll not disturb you any more.

    NB. This message is sent in compliance with the new e-mail bill section
    301. Under Bill S. 1618 TITLE III passed by the 105th US Congress.
    This message can not be considered as Spam as long as we include the way
    to be Removed, Paragraph (a)(c) of S. 1618.

    TO REMOVE YOUR ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST: you can send message to
    [email protected] with Subject "Remove".
    - - - - - - - -
    What shocked me was the paragraph before thelast one..
    Is it all just bullshit to confuse people not familiar with law etc, or a real and clean way to go unpunished?
    Custom adult games / apps for your paysites.
    webmaster at multimoodia.net
    icq35291012
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    • american pervert
      Confirmed User
      • Sep 2002
      • 6840
      #2
      you want some real lists? email me
      tony at americanpervert dot com
      I can resist everything except temptation

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        • Backov
          Confirmed User
          • Mar 2001
          • 1600
          #3
          Rule #1 - Spammers Lie.

          "We received your address from a public area. "

          We harvested your address.

          "NB. This message is sent in compliance with the new e-mail bill section
          301. Under Bill S. 1618 TITLE III passed by the 105th US Congress."

          We refer you to this senate bill that never passed and that stupid spammers like to refer even dumber spammees to.

          "TO REMOVE YOUR ADDRESS FROM YOUR MAILING LIST: you can send message to
          [email protected] with Subject "Remove"."

          When you do this, WE MAY honor your request and not email you for this product again, but you just made it onto our "confirmed recipient" list and we'll certainly resell your address and add it to all of our other mail outs.

          Scammers are thieves. Period.

          Cheers,
          Backov
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            • suesheboy
              Confirmed User
              • Nov 2002
              • 5211
              #4
              Spamming in many states is illegal now.

              Spam sucks
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                • Sambuka
                  Registered User
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 500
                  #5
                  I think you'll find that most spammers now days WILL REMOVE you from there lists when you fill out the remove option. I talked to a bunch of spammers and they said they always allow people to remove themselfs, there are plenty of people to email and it helps keep the complaints down and keeps spam haters off there backs.

                  Not all are that honest but I'd say most are these days. They don't want the heat from spamming, and the lawsuits that have come about are often to do with not being able to remove themselfs.

                  And all that legal spam bullshit about how there within the rules is bullshit, to be within the rules they have to have :ADV: at the start of the subject line and of course nobody does that as all the spam filters would remove it. And yes to be legal they also have to have a way for people to remove themselfs, AND they are not allowed to forge headers or fake return email addresses.

                  Sammy

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                    • suesheboy
                      Confirmed User
                      • Nov 2002
                      • 5211
                      #6
                      Originally posted by Sambuka
                      I think you'll find that most spammers now days WILL REMOVE you from there lists when you fill out the remove option. I talked to a bunch of spammers and they said they always allow people to remove themselfs, there are plenty of people to email and it helps keep the complaints down and keeps spam haters off there backs.

                      Not all are that honest but I'd say most are these days. They don't want the heat from spamming, and the lawsuits that have come about are often to do with not being able to remove themselfs.

                      And all that legal spam bullshit about how there within the rules is bullshit, to be within the rules they have to have :ADV: at the start of the subject line and of course nobody does that as all the spam filters would remove it. And yes to be legal they also have to have a way for people to remove themselfs, AND they are not allowed to forge headers or fake return email addresses.

                      Sammy
                      Thats only valid in 2 states. Trust me
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                        • msg
                          Confirmed User
                          • Mar 2002
                          • 293
                          #7
                          Originally posted by Sambuka
                          I think you'll find that most spammers now days WILL REMOVE you from there lists when you fill out the remove option. I talked to a bunch of spammers and they said they always allow people to remove themselfs, there are plenty of people to email and it helps keep the complaints down and keeps spam haters off there backs.
                          Thats absolutely correct. No one wants a complainer on their list.

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                            • eRock
                              Confirmed User
                              • Apr 2001
                              • 3112
                              #8
                              Originally posted by suesheboy
                              Spamming in many states is illegal now.

                              Spam sucks
                              Officially, only in 2 states, I believe.
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                                • cheesev1
                                  Registered User
                                  • Jan 2002
                                  • 19
                                  #9
                                  I am a spammer, a Professional one I might add. I do give everyone the chance to be removed from my lists. I make my living by sending out 3rd party mail. I also run #spam on EFnet.
                                  I will add that there are alot of spammers on the net who make us good spammers look dirty and crooked as all hell. I run #spam for a few reason 1 to teach people how to correctly bulk mail , and the differences between bulk mailing as well as spamming.:
                                  cheese burger

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