Jesus you guys are fickle. The guy has probably yet to take his first dump in the oval office toilet for fucks sake.
Humans are just fucking dumb.
Fickle? The DOW CLOSED TODAY AT LEVELS NOT SEEN IN 12 YEARS. Hows that fickle for you fuck face? People are losing entire life savings, 401ks bye bye, college money gone.
This is YOUR fault for voting for him and there will be a day of reckoning for you people, and its coming soon.
Fickle? The DOW CLOSED TODAY AT LEVELS NOT SEEN IN 12 YEARS. Hows that fickle for you fuck face? People are losing entire life savings, 401ks bye bye, college money gone.
This is YOUR fault for voting for him and there will be a day of reckoning for you people, and its coming soon.
Yes its all Obamas fault. Last time I looked the stock markets were going to shit when Bush was in power as well.
Jesus you guys are fickle. The guy has probably yet to take his first dump in the oval office toilet for fucks sake.
Humans are just fucking dumb.
considering that each time that he or someone in his administration talks about the economy/plans/bailout, the stock market tanks.. uhmm.. i think its fair to draw a direct correlation.
markets are driven by confidence.... non-stop talk about how horrible things are non-stop and blaming it on others with a plan that does nothing to inspire confidence in the global financial markets isn't going to help slow the decline. Bush was a 1/2 retarded idiot and at least he had the sense to not stand up and talk down the economy to the entire planet everytime the subject came up.
Yes its all Obamas fault. Last time I looked the stock markets were going to shit when Bush was in power as well.
We can argue whose fault it is, Democrats or Republicans, White House or Congress, dumb people buying mortgages they cant afford or banks knowingly selling bad mortgages but the fact remains....
OBAMA IS IN CHARGE NOW IT IS HIS WATCH AND HE IS KILLING THIS COUNTRY.
hmmm, but in another thread you said it was no big deal, that everything will be just fine:
Originally posted by Splum
Orly? We seemed to come out of the great depression a stronger and smarter nation didnt we? And almost ALL the banks failed during that time. So shut the fuck up unless you know what you are talking about. You are being spoon fed that bullshit by the White.. excuse me Black house. Nationalize the banks or let them fail, we will survive. Just stop printing useless fucking money, thats all Obama is doing is printing money that has no value.
"The towers are gone now, reduced to bloody rubble, along with all hopes for Peace in Our Time, in the United States or any other country. Make no mistake about it: We are At War now -- with somebody -- and we will stay At War with that mysterious Enemy for the rest of our lives." H.S.T. 09/12/01
Obama's criminally irresponsible "stimulus" pork package and his even more outrageous big government budget which will bankrupt the nation are driving the market down to nothing. No one in their right mind would think that a massive expansion of the federal deficit is the solution to a credit crisis which was caused by a debt bubble in the first place. It is more of the medicine which got us in this mess in the first place.
Unfortunately the damage his massive expansion of government bureaucracy, taxes, wasteful spending and entitlements will be with us long after is is voted out of office in 4 years.
If McCain had been elected the same would be happening.
If Ron Paul had been elected the same would be happening.
If Jesus would have been elected the same would be happening.
The economy is in a bad way right now. It needs to bottom out before it gets better. The only hope is that the bottom isn't so far down that we can't get out of it for years and years. Things have to run their course and the actions that have been taken need time to work.
Obama is the coach of the team now and he will take the heat if things fail, but we need to give his plans a little time to work before we call him a failure.
Obama's criminally irresponsible "stimulus" pork package and his even more outrageous big government budget which will bankrupt the nation are driving the market down to nothing. No one in their right mind would think that a massive expansion of the federal deficit is the solution to a credit crisis which was caused by a debt bubble in the first place. It is more of the medicine which got us in this mess in the first place.
Unfortunately the damage his massive expansion of government bureaucracy, taxes, wasteful spending and entitlements will be with us long after is is voted out of office in 4 years.
18 billion out of 787 billion is a pork stmiulus package?
If McCain had been elected the same would be happening.
If Ron Paul had been elected the same would be happening.
If Jesus would have been elected the same would be happening.
The economy is in a bad way right now. It needs to bottom out before it gets better. The only hope is that the bottom isn't so far down that we can't get out of it for years and years. Things have to run their course and the actions that have been taken need time to work.
Obama is the coach of the team now and he will take the heat if things fail, but we need to give his plans a little time to work before we call him a failure.
thank you and the right need this not to work soooo bad or they are done for a long time.
We will be fine IF he either a) nationalizes the banks or b) lets them fail
Nice try socialist pig fucker.
If I am then so are you, if you cleared your hate for a minute you would KNOW what I think and I basically agree with you. Oh but it is so much easier making assumptions and calling people names.
I didn't vote for that bastard.
"The towers are gone now, reduced to bloody rubble, along with all hopes for Peace in Our Time, in the United States or any other country. Make no mistake about it: We are At War now -- with somebody -- and we will stay At War with that mysterious Enemy for the rest of our lives." H.S.T. 09/12/01
Fickle? The DOW CLOSED TODAY AT LEVELS NOT SEEN IN 12 YEARS. Hows that fickle for you fuck face? People are losing entire life savings, 401ks bye bye, college money gone.
This is YOUR fault for voting for him and there will be a day of reckoning for you people, and its coming soon.
Uh oh, sounds like it's hug-a-retarded-republican day! Just take a deep breath and don't be so angry, it will all be okay just count to ten and have a hot pocket for a snack while you watch some FOX news.
I would say give the guy a chance given the market was going to continue to plummet regardless of what he's done in his first 6 weeks, but it's already apparent he's not really going to help the situation given what he's done so far. Let's spend more, let's screw the dollar more...that'll help! If you think the stock market is bad, wait until the dollar starts plummetting...then regardless of whether your investing money or not, what you have will be worth much less unless you had money in other currencies.
Want to crush it in mainstream with Facebook ads? Hit me up.
Obama needs to stop talking about how things are going to get worse before they get better. He needs to start talking up the situation and build consumer confidence. I think the reason he's doing it is to put through the third legof his stimulus package. But people's lives and livelihoods are on the line, time to cut the shit.
Im just glad there are records of registered Democrats. Nuff said.
Good answer. As Kane said, voting for any of the other candidates or anyone else on the planet for that matter (including you) would not have prevented the Dow from dropping today.
I get it, you hate Obama. But blaming the economy, the stocks falling or any of the rest of this mess on the people who voted for him is simply not fair.
The guy's barely been in office to get a piece of paper signed, much less get a tanking economy fixed and you're shouting from the roof tops of how he failed.
Why are you making a ton of threads about how Bush did nothing to prevent this when he had the chance??
Fickle? The DOW CLOSED TODAY AT LEVELS NOT SEEN IN 12 YEARS. Hows that fickle for you fuck face? People are losing entire life savings, 401ks bye bye, college money gone.
This is YOUR fault for voting for him and there will be a day of reckoning for you people, and its coming soon.
You blame this on the current administration?
Oh yeah - everything was rosy under Bush, even as far back as Clinton. And in just - what - just over a month, Obama has totally fucked the economies of most of the major countries in the world.
Oh yeah - everything was rosy under Bush, even as far back as Clinton. And in just - what - just over a month, Obama has totally fucked the economies of most of the major countries in the world.
You're a bright one.
HE COULD HAVE SAVED US but instead he chose to push through a partisan piece of shit bill that has effectively doomed this country to decades of decline or stagnation at best. Please dude get your facts right. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...ic_crisis.html
One less god!!!
I contend that we are both an atheist. I just belive in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
Maybe one of the paradigm shifts that is coming is that people will no longer use the stock market as their measure of how well the economy is doing.
Over the past 30 or so years, with middle class incomes stagnant or declining, the "free market is god" crowd pointed to the gains in the stock market or the rise in housing prices as proof that their economic model was working for everyone....and I guess if your 401(k) is growing and your house is worth more then you don't feel so bad about not getting raises that keep up with inflation or your co-workers having their jobs shipped to India while the CEO gets $100 million for wrecking the company and underfunding your pension plan.
Maybe now that this "paper wealth" that was created by "supply side economics" is gone, people will look at other, more logical indicators, like the unemployment rate, poverty rate, median income, etc.
Also, EVEN IF we were to use the stock market as our indicator....the market is fickle, always has been, always will be, and the idea that it's fucked up right now because of anything Obama has done, when he's only been in office for a month, is ridiculous.
Rush Limbaugh tried to make hay out of the fact that the Dow dropped 200 points on inaguration day. Funny how he didn't have anything to say when it gained all 200 points plus a few more back the very next day. One thing had nothing to do with the other.
You ideological right wing idiots only care about the data when it supports your ideology, if it doesn't then you ignore it.
Maybe one of the paradigm shifts that is coming is that people will no longer use the stock market as their measure of how well the economy is doing.
You uneducated dipass, economic growth dropped more than 6% last quarter! Unemployment in some states is over 10%! We arent just talking about the stock market here!
Yep, I read that and it doesn't change the fact that all of the big companies aligned with Bush got super fat while he looked the other way. So did many other big corps. One catastrophy after another with W.
I didn't say he was the only one to blame. I am however saying that it happened on his watch and he was either too corrupt or too stupid to do anything about it. (My $$$ on corrupt) W had a full republican majority he could have changed almost anything. (Didn't care.... He's set for life)
One less god!!!
I contend that we are both an atheist. I just belive in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
funniest thread of the day. This Splum is a fucking moron. Who didn't see shit like this coming though? We all knew that Obama was going to get a month MAX before wacko's started blaming him for their miserable lives.
Yep, I read that and it doesn't change the fact that all of the big companies aligned with Bush got super fat while he looked the other way. So did many other big corps. One catastrophy after another with W.
I didn't say he was the only one to blame. I am however saying that it happened on his watch and he was either too corrupt or too stupid to do anything about it. (My $$$ on corrupt) W had a full republican majority he could have changed almost anything. (Didn't care.... He's set for life)
And Obama just fucked you, your children and this country for a long time in less than a month on the job. Obama HAS changed the world, for the worst.
Stupid lemmings, you really think this asshole was going to help you?
In fairness to Obama, the process was well underway before he got elected. With that said, I predict that there will be HYPERINFLATION due to the "stimulus" and other "fixes" his administration has passed/will pass. Not to mention the challenges posed by Medicare and Social Security.
That's when the PAIN will start. Inflation sky high. Prices sky high. Income low. Growth low. Due to the numbers involved, the coming FUCKED scenario will make the dark Jimmy Carter days look like fucking Camelot!
On the bright side (if it can be called that), universal healthcare will come to America.
And seriously, it doesn't matter if God was in charge of this country, it can't be fixed. It was a phantom economy based on selling $10 for $12 to someone who then sells it for $15 and so on. The country didn't produce anything tangible over the last couple decades. Our biggest industries were banking, investment, and insurance.
No one can fix this, not Bush not Obama not McCain. It'll take massive deleveraging of our economy over the coming years to get us back to where we should have been.
funniest thread of the day. This Splum is a fucking moron. Who didn't see shit like this coming though? We all knew that Obama was going to get a month MAX before wacko's started blaming him for their miserable lives.
You uneducated dipass, economic growth dropped more than 6% last quarter! Unemployment in some states is over 10%! We arent just talking about the stock market here!
Hey dipshit, before you call someone uneducated, maybe you should learn to read.
The thread title is about a drop in an index of 30 stocks. Thread starter seems to think that this indicator means the President is doing a bad job.
I was responding to that, and my response was spot on.
Also, again you need to work on your reading and reading comprehension, because the word "republican" was nowhere in my previous post. I did use the term "right wing idiot" to describe the likes of Rush Limbaugh and the thread starter, and I also used the terms "free market is god crowd" and "supply side economics" to describe all of the people in Washington in the past 30 years who were bought and paid for by big corporations (including Bill Clinton) and who devised policies/laws/regulations/lax oversight that allowed corporations, their CEO's, and the people who made money selling their equity and debt rich in ways that King Solomon could never have dreamed of.
funniest thread of the day. This Splum is a fucking moron. Who didn't see shit like this coming though? We all knew that Obama was going to get a month MAX before wacko's started blaming him for their miserable lives.
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