Originally Posted by burntfilm (Post 15565579)

Rush has to stick to the party line, no matter what the reality is... They'll figure it out eventually and come back with some stronger stuff, but for now they just seem to be beating the drum, making sure we know they're still here. It's called "The Al Sharpton Technique"

Originally Posted by PussyMan (Post 15565910)

oblabla is not my president, he is the dictators of the losers

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 15568475)

Why do you hate America ?????

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 15565618)

When Obama stands up and does absolutely nothing but talk about how bad the economy is, how bad its going to get and how there is just no time to discuss the biggest spending bill in the history of the world because there's just no time and the cost of losing one second debating it is just too great... he's just doing what needs to be done?

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 15568667)

What is amazing is how ready people are to believe his lies without even taking a minute to look at the details or consider the implications.

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 15565618)

lets take some time to understand your view point

When Bush, on the heels of a massive attack against the nation in the heart of New York City talks about the threats and the risks and the changes that need to happen - he's just fear mongering and trying to scare people to push an agenda?

When Obama stands up and does absolutely nothing but talk about how bad the economy is, how bad its going to get and how there is just no time to discuss the biggest spending bill in the history of the world because there's just no time and the cost of losing one second debating it is just too great... he's just doing what needs to be done?

Repeat after me:

"My name is StuartD, i'm very liberal. That's not a bad thing, it just means that my personal political views are biased towards one side and means that i can't treat any political issue fairly.. so don't expect a well thought out, fair, insightful or well reasoned discussion on my part"

there.. now you're free and on the road to becoming a rational human being.

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 15566039)

That guy is as nutty as they come and the scary part is he's tame compared to some of the other Right wing nut job radio hosts. The sad part is the sheep will believe anything he says.

It is slightly funny to watch the Republican party continue to self implode on it's self. Yet, it's kind of sad though in a way, because this country really needs a "viable" two or preferably three party system. It's just the Republicans have turned down the road of extremism.

I had hoped after the ass whooping they took, they would see the light and move back to what their party once was. Yet seems that didn't happen, so they continue down the path of self destruction.

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 15565569)

Rush Limbaugh is now the head of the Republican party.

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 15565618)

lets take some time to understand your view point

When Bush, on the heels of a massive attack against the nation in the heart of New York City talks about the threats and the risks and the changes that need to happen - he's just fear mongering and trying to scare people to push an agenda?

When Obama stands up and does absolutely nothing but talk about how bad the economy is, how bad its going to get and how there is just no time to discuss the biggest spending bill in the history of the world because there's just no time and the cost of losing one second debating it is just too great... he's just doing what needs to be done?

Repeat after me:

"My name is StuartD, i'm very liberal. That's not a bad thing, it just means that my personal political views are biased towards one side and means that i can't treat any political issue fairly.. so don't expect a well thought out, fair, insightful or well reasoned discussion on my part"

there.. now you're free and on the road to becoming a rational human being.

Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 15565566)

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/...pac/index.html

Limbaugh used his self-described "first national address," which ran more than an hour longer than his allotted 20 minutes, to accuse President Obama of inspiring fear in Americans in order to push a liberal agenda of "big government."

"He wants people in fear, angst and crisis, fearing the worst each and every day, because that clears the decks for President Obama and his pals to come in with the answers, which are abject failures, historically shown and demonstrated. Doesn't matter. They'll have control of it when it's all over. And that's what they want," Limbaugh said.

"They see these inequalities, these inequities that capitalism produces. How do they try to fix it? Do they try to elevate those at the bottom? No, they try to tear down the people at the top."

What a farce. The last president I remember inspiring fear in people never talked about anything BUT the 'war on terra'!

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 15574400)

Sort of revisionist history there. The country supported Bush after the attacks. His approval rating was nearly 90% when the Afghanistan war started and over 60% when the Iraq war started. He was given the benefit of the doubt. The public turned on him when they realized that Iraq was never a threat and the was was completely pointless.

If in a couple years we look back and see that there was nothing to be worried about, people have every right to call Obama a fearmongerer and whatever else. But to act as though the public didn't give Bush the benefit of the doubt is revisionist history.

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 15574474)

FACT... Bush used the rhetoric that if we don't do something right now, more attacks will come, we have no time, we need to make drastic changes etc etc etc - forget afghanistan then... think about The Patriot Act.

FACT... Obama used the same scare tactics and rhetoric saying we have no time to even so much as read or debate the planets largest spending bill ever because they economy is on the verge of going into an "irreversible" recession

simple point - two presidents using the same scare tactics to push through an agenda. thats all. you can argue the same points for either side. people refuse to admit or accept it because at the end of the day, politics is all about "us against them" and the "us" and "them" are just two sides of the same coin.

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 15574479)

if you were liberal and it was a conservative president you would be throwing a fit about the exact same thing and crying about how totally insane and irresponsible it is.