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  • WarChild
    Let slip the dogs of war.
    • Jan 2003
    • 17263
    #16
    Originally posted by BVF
    I didn't HACK his email....I already knew the password....It could be an ETHICS violation yes, but I don't give a fuck about ethics when I've been scammed so I really don't give a shit if it's considered wrong or not and who considers it wrong unless they're going to send me the $99.95...Then I'll be all ears and might actually give a fuck or some credence to what one is saying.
    It doesn't matter if you "hack" his email or know the password. You are not authorized to access his email and I'm pretty sure that's illegal.

    It's like if I broke in to your house to look around and claimed that I didn't actually "break in" because I knew you left the key under the mat.
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      • BVF
        Black Vagina Finder
        • Jan 2002
        • 13975
        #17
        Originally posted by WarChild
        It doesn't matter if you "hack" his email or know the password. You are not authorized to access his email and I'm pretty sure that's illegal.

        It's like if I broke in to your house to look around and claimed that I didn't actually "break in" because I knew you left the key under the mat.
        If he had a key, he couldn't be charged with breaking and entering.......The most he could get is unlawful entry or burglary if something was taken....But since he didn't BREAK anything, there is no charge.

        And yes, I have checked myspace accounts also....

        If anyone here doesn't like it, don't promote me and don't sign up to my site and chargeback....
        Last edited by BVF; 02-24-2009, 09:04 AM.

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          • GatorB
            The Demon & 12clicks
            • Oct 2001
            • 18208
            #18
            Originally posted by BVF
            I didn't HACK his email....I already knew the password....It could be an ETHICS violation yes, but I don't give a fuck about ethics when I've been scammed so I really don't give a shit if it's considered wrong or not and who considers it wrong unless they're going to send me the $99.95...Then I'll be all ears and might actually give a fuck or some credence to what one is saying.
            So if I leave my front door unlock that means you can enter my house? That's still against the law.

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              • Wolfy
                Confirmed User
                • Dec 2003
                • 3574
                #19
                I'd love to see some actual laws pertaining to this one.

                Is it against the law to check someone else's email? Which law?

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                  • WarChild
                    Let slip the dogs of war.
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 17263
                    #20
                    Originally posted by BVF
                    If he had a key, he couldn't be charged with breaking and entering....

                    And yes, I have checked myspace accounts also....

                    If anyone here doesn't like it, don't promote me and don't sign up to my site and chargeback....
                    I'm telling you it's illegal for you to do what you're doing not because I give a shit but because you might not want to be admiting to that kind of thing on public message boards.

                    If you don't believe me google your state name and "unauthorized email access".

                    Hey, they guy fucked you over so personally I say get him. I'm just trying to help you cover your own ass.
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                      • Carmine Raguso
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 2158
                        #21
                        Originally posted by BVF
                        If he had a key, he couldn't be charged with breaking and entering....

                        And yes, I have checked myspace accounts also....

                        If anyone here doesn't like it, don't promote me and don't sign up to my site and chargeback....
                        You sound a like a broke douche.

                        You accessing someone else's email account without there consent is against the law. No matter what way you try and spin it. The fact that you did in fact "guess" his password (may it be with inside information or not), you indeed violated his personal property without consent.

                        Just because a brute force attack guessed right on the first try does not mean that the brute force did not occur.

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                          • GatorB
                            The Demon & 12clicks
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 18208
                            #22
                            Originally posted by Wolfy
                            I'd love to see some actual laws pertaining to this one.

                            Is it against the law to check someone else's email? Which law?
                            Here's a simple answer. How would you feel and what would you do if I got into your e-mail account?

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                              • JayDeeZee
                                Confirmed User
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 3595
                                #23
                                Did you find anything else of interest while going through his personal emails?

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                                  • WarChild
                                    Let slip the dogs of war.
                                    • Jan 2003
                                    • 17263
                                    #24
                                    Originally posted by Wolfy
                                    I'd love to see some actual laws pertaining to this one.

                                    Is it against the law to check someone else's email? Which law?
                                    So in your mind it's cool for me to hack your email? No problem there, you don't think that's illegal?
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                                      • BVF
                                        Black Vagina Finder
                                        • Jan 2002
                                        • 13975
                                        #25
                                        Originally posted by Wolfy
                                        I'd love to see some actual laws pertaining to this one.

                                        Is it against the law to check someone else's email? Which law?
                                        I'd like to know that also, even though I don't give a fuck if I broke a law or not.

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                                          • BVF
                                            Black Vagina Finder
                                            • Jan 2002
                                            • 13975
                                            #26
                                            Originally posted by WarChild
                                            So in your mind it's cool for me to hack your email? No problem there, you don't think that's illegal?
                                            If I signed up to your site, charged back $100 dollars, and used the same email password, then I DESERVE to get my email looked into....Keep in mind, I looked into it just so I could find the confirmation email which I did...I HAVE hacked myspace accounts before with passwords from fraudulent customers and don't give two shits about it.

                                            And I don't give a fuck about what I THINK is Illegal....I only give a fuck about what I can be caught and prosecuted for....
                                            Last edited by BVF; 02-24-2009, 09:12 AM.

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                                              • GatorB
                                                The Demon & 12clicks
                                                • Oct 2001
                                                • 18208
                                                #27
                                                Originally posted by BVF
                                                If he had a key, he couldn't be charged with breaking and entering.......
                                                yes he could. I have a key to a friend house. Now let's say we get on the outs and he wnts his key back and before I give it back I make a copy. Now I still have a key so that means I can continue to go into his house without permission? hardly.

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                                                  • BVF
                                                    Black Vagina Finder
                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                    • 13975
                                                    #28
                                                    Originally posted by GatorB
                                                    yes he could. I have a key to a friend house. Now let's say we get on the outs and he wnts his key back and before I give it back I make a copy. Now I still have a key so that means I can continue to go into his house without permission? hardly.
                                                    Asking for it back and not getting it is different from leaving the door unlocked for some stranger to wander into....You know it and I know it....So come up with whatever scenario you need to make your point and to make you feel better about it....I personally DON'T GIVE A FUCK.

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                                                      • GatorB
                                                        The Demon & 12clicks
                                                        • Oct 2001
                                                        • 18208
                                                        #29
                                                        Originally posted by BVF
                                                        If I signed up to your site, charged back $100 dollars, and used the same email password, then I DESERVE to get my email looked into....

                                                        And I don't give a fuck about what I THINK is Illegal....I only give a fuck about what I can be caught and prosecuted for....
                                                        some people think blacks still deserve to be slaves.

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                                                          • webmasterchecks
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Oct 2006
                                                            • 1685
                                                            #30
                                                            not sure if any law was broken here, possibly the terms of use for the email provider, ie gmail/hotmail, but even if they were aware of this happening, it seems unlikely that they would give this transgression much weight

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