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BVF 02-24-2009 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 15543445)
Fuck that amateur shit, next time log into his account, delete ALL his emails, and leave a note in the mailbox: "Next time you chargeback I'll break your legs" That will teach him not to fuck with adult websites...

It's more fun to deface a myspace account, first message all his friends that he's secretly bisexual and then delete all of the friends....Then change the password.

xxweekxx 02-24-2009 11:49 AM

eh aint nobody gonna put the dude in jail for logging into someone elses email... wouldnt hold in court, besides could say u randomly just typed in the email and it logged in, so u closed it down..

If he hacked a banks email, or some shit, then yeah, but aint nobody prosecuting BVF for this shit.. heck u know how many of my friends were hacking other friends accounts back in high school and shit.. nobody cares

D Ghost 02-24-2009 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15543168)
So in checking charge backs you always go about breaking the law? Brilliant.

bahahahahaaha :1orglaugh

xxweekxx 02-24-2009 11:54 AM

ull be suprised how many times u "break the law" every day :)

Karen Kougar 02-24-2009 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxweekxx (Post 15543465)
eh aint nobody gonna put the dude in jail for logging into someone elses email... wouldnt hold in court, besides could say u randomly just typed in the email and it logged in, so u closed it down..

If he hacked a banks email, or some shit, then yeah, but aint nobody prosecuting BVF for this shit.. heck u know how many of my friends were hacking other friends accounts back in high school and shit.. nobody cares

One example from many:


unauthorized access to AOL email
Posted by Anonymous . updated on 12/30/2008
i was charged and and convicted of a felony count of unauthorized access to email (violation of USC 1030 and 2701) which carries a 5 year prison sentence. I did not read unopened email. I had no idea I was committing a felony. I am concerend for myself obviously but what about all these other people on this blog who are admitting they accessed email without authorization. The federal prisons are going to fill up fast and a goverment task force will need to be establhised to catch them. Probation officers will have to be hired to supervise them. Anyone wnat to file amicus curae for me?

from: http://www.legalforce.com/free-legal...-email_16.html

And for the record, I'm wasn't giving BVF a hard time. I just thought he should know that he just confessed to a federal felony in a public forum.

If he did perform the act that he claims, and I don't know if that's so, then the first call to a lawyer will cost more than the bill he's chasing.

Oh, and posting that you don't give a fuck about the feds always improves matters... :)

BV 02-24-2009 12:09 PM

Proving that your confirmation email hit his inbox doesn't prove anything anyways.

There are a zillion reasons why it was charged back.

From him not being happy and bitching to a stolen card/hacked or fake email issue.

What was the reason listed?

DarkJedi 02-24-2009 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 15543206)
I didn't HACK his email....I already knew the password....

wow, you're dumb

:2 cents:

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-24-2009 12:18 PM

This thread delivers.

DarkJedi 02-24-2009 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 15543302)

I STILL don't give a shit and I will continue to do it.

Of course, you're a n1gger.

TeenCat 02-24-2009 12:32 PM

it doesnt matter if reading someones email is against law or not, breaking others privacy is wrong, and because you as owner of paysite have access to datas like email and user:pass, that doesnt mean you can manipulate with them and use them. didnt you sign something like privacy agreement and that you cannot use any informations of your members when you created account at ccbill?

Alky 02-24-2009 12:40 PM

Damn looks like I'm going to start using my members credit card info soon.... I mean.... they left it there for me to use.

_Richard_ 02-24-2009 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alky (Post 15543670)
Damn looks like I'm going to start using my members credit card info soon.... I mean.... they left it there for me to use.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Twistys Tim 02-24-2009 12:43 PM

Whenever I am in my house, I keep the door unlocked. Anyone who wishes to come round unannounced and enter my house without my permission is more than welcome. The only condition is that you have to suffer a brutal, vicious, and possibly life ending attack from my relentless 105lb German Shepard.

cgu 02-24-2009 12:45 PM

Not that anyone will ever go after you, but its criminal trespass. One of my dating affiliates got popped for it via using university students emails to send mass emails a couple years back, cost him 50k in legal fees + restitution to the university and a suspended sentence. The crime they charged him with was electronic trespass, which was a new one back then on his states books...

Hand over the info to the authorities and let them deal with it.

BVF 02-24-2009 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davey Jones (Post 15543627)
Of course, you're a n1gger.

Yep...I'm one of the original members of NWA...


http://hiptics.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/nwa.jpg

As I dance and do whatever the fuck I want like this:

http://www.blackvaginafinder.com/coo..._arab_afro.gif

escorpio 02-24-2009 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 15543445)
Fuck that amateur shit, next time log into his account, delete ALL his emails, and leave a note in the mailbox: "Next time you chargeback I'll break your legs" That will teach him not to fuck with adult websites...

hahahaha fuck yeah! :thumbsup

fuzebox 02-24-2009 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BVF (Post 15543181)
Show me what law I broke Mr. Brilliance Man The Tico himself. Or should I say "Senor Brilliante"

I don't really care about this thread, but calling Warchild a tico is pretty damn funny :1orglaugh

SBJ 02-24-2009 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 15543445)
Fuck that amateur shit, next time log into his account, delete ALL his emails, and leave a note in the mailbox: "Next time you chargeback I'll break your legs" That will teach him not to fuck with adult websites...

:1orglaugh that made me laugh!

Deej 02-24-2009 02:47 PM


420 02-24-2009 02:57 PM

Did you forward all his incriminating emails to his significant other?

WarChild 02-24-2009 03:08 PM

What I still don't understand is where the stereotype of the lawless ignorant black man comes from in the first place! :winkwink:

lazycash 02-24-2009 03:45 PM

Nothing may happen as far as the law goes, but ccbill pulled the processing a couple years ago from another sponsor who admitted doing something similar on a board.

Nurgle 02-24-2009 04:49 PM

wtf, we have a case where some asshole charges back , and someone is smart enough to check if he can prove it.. those fuckwits who charge back for no reason cost us money, so who gives a fuck if he found the proof in the email account.

glad to see everyone here is more interested in the rights of the asshole who charged back who was stupid enough to use the same password as his email account

topnotch, standup guy 02-24-2009 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV (Post 15543568)
Proving that your confirmation email hit his inbox doesn't prove anything anyways.

There are a zillion reasons why it was charged back.

From him not being happy and bitching to a stolen card/hacked or fake email issue.

What was the reason listed?

CCBill doesn't list cb reasons to the best of my knowledge.

More importantly, I don't know why so many people are hating on BVF. He's just fucking around with a scamming thief. No harm in that :thumbsup

evildick 02-24-2009 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 15543458)
It's more fun to deface a myspace account, first message all his friends that he's secretly bisexual and then delete all of the friends....Then change the password.

LOL You are evil.

:1orglaugh

HomerSimpson 02-24-2009 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JayDeeZee (Post 15543242)
Did you find anything else of interest while going through his personal emails?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

DWB 02-24-2009 08:03 PM

Do your thing BVF.

Let the haters hate. You where here long before most of them and will be around long after they are gone.

Steve Awesome 02-24-2009 08:40 PM

Very clever strategy, but bragging about it probably not so wise.

collegeboobies 02-24-2009 08:41 PM

Umm doing a chargeback for something you purchased is not fraud. If he is not happy with the service he got he has a right to chargeback.

PSSuperstars 02-24-2009 09:03 PM

You guys really freak out over chargebacks, jesus.
It's a fact of life in porn.
Phone sex companies get 5-10 a month.. usually if it's a big number.. it's more than one call by one customer.. but still..

It's just a $99 chargeback. Your company will go on.

PSSuperstars 02-24-2009 09:04 PM

And the only way Visa will overturn.. is if it's an ISP email that has his name in the email...

OR a signature/verification form..

and if it's a claim of stolen card..
You're not winning at all.

It's a fact of porn life.

dav3 02-24-2009 10:21 PM

lol this thread might be worth a page 2 sig spot

minddust 02-24-2009 10:26 PM

HAHA do ya thang mang:pimp

Break his legs.

Take the motherfucker for a ride in the trunk, with a shovel, plastic bags, a jerry can full of 94 octane.

:1orglaugh

alias 02-24-2009 10:28 PM

BVF that's fucking classic! :thumbsup [still reading thread]

ExLust 02-24-2009 10:48 PM

Funny thread ever.

spacedog 02-24-2009 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by collegeboobies (Post 15545403)
Umm doing a chargeback for something you purchased is not fraud. If he is not happy with the service he got he has a right to chargeback.

Oh, so now a customer has to be HAPPY with their purchase or they can just give themselves a refund?

In my book, that is theft of services.

Suppose I was not happy with my hotel room after having actually used that room, so did a chargeback?

Suppose I took a flight to Rome, but you know what.. it was such a long flight and the crew had such shitty attitudes.. I wasn't happy with it one bit.,. fuck it.. I'll charge back..


Hell, fuck it.. let's use a CC to buy some tickets to the concert.. yay.,.. aw man. that concert fucking sucked.. I'm gonna charge back... Hell.. we can get free tickets to the hockey game.. we'll use the CC then chargeback and say we're not happy

GregE 02-24-2009 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minddust (Post 15545629)
HAHA do ya thang mang:pimp

Break his legs.

Take the motherfucker for a ride in the trunk, with a shovel, plastic bags, a jerry can full of 94 octane.

:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

No need for plastic bags or a jerry can.

Just take the thieving bastard to the beach at low tide and bury him up to his neck.

Then, if you want, you can sit down and keep him company for awhile. Tell him all about Visa's charge back policy and such.

Just be careful to move on before the tide gets too high. You don't want to get your shoes wet or anything.

$5 submissions 02-24-2009 11:13 PM

BVF, you still doing your podcasts, man? Post the link to your blog. Good stuff.

MissMina 02-24-2009 11:36 PM

Grimey thief meets grimey webmaster. LOL Oh well. Karma is a bitch though. Two wrongs don't make a right though. Hate thieving customers that chargeback.

lagcam 07-08-2009 03:21 PM

There should be a special forum for classics.

Brujah 07-08-2009 04:34 PM

What happened to that kid that broke into Sarah Palin's email?

SBJ 07-08-2009 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagcam (Post 16043969)
There should be a special forum for classics.


:1orglaugh haha yup.. i was thinking i had seen this thread before..

baddog 07-08-2009 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 15543458)
It's more fun to deface a myspace account, first message all his friends that he's secretly bisexual and then delete all of the friends....Then change the password.

I remember the last time someone made stupid, incriminating comments on GFY. Last I heard he was doing Federal time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alky (Post 15543670)
Damn looks like I'm going to start using my members credit card info soon.... I mean.... they left it there for me to use.

:thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nurgle (Post 15544691)
wtf, we have a case where some asshole charges back , and someone is smart enough to check if he can prove it.. those fuckwits who charge back for no reason cost us money, so who gives a fuck if he found the proof in the email account.

glad to see everyone here is more interested in the rights of the asshole who charged back who was stupid enough to use the same password as his email account

You must have a great track record at disputing CB's. What is your secret?

br4sco 07-08-2009 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 15543435)
Did I happen to mention that I DON'T REALLY GIVE A FUCK whether it's illegal or not?.......If so, carry on.

i dont blame you for how u act, i blame the media and this country for how u act . You need to wake the fuck up and get that gangster shit out of your head :2 cents:

SleazyDream 07-08-2009 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 15543136)
If I get a chargeback, I check their email address to see if they used the same password and this one did....In the email account, I find the fucking confirmation to the subscription!!!

This fool bought a 6 month membership in NOVEMBER and is just now charging back.....I wonder what I should do with this man because this is bullshit and outright fraud...

checking someone's private email account BAD.

posting about checking someone's private email account WORSE.

posting about not caring - STUPID.

:2 cents:

pornguy 07-08-2009 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 15543220)
If he had a key, he couldn't be charged with breaking and entering.......The most he could get is unlawful entry or burglary if something was taken....But since he didn't BREAK anything, there is no charge.

And yes, I have checked myspace accounts also....

If anyone here doesn't like it, don't promote me and don't sign up to my site and chargeback....

In most states Burglary is defined as " Entering or remaining with the intent to commit a crime within.

Trespass happens to be a crime, so even if he did not take anything its still burglary.

And yeah Im sure someone has dreamed up a cyber crime you committed

seeandsee 07-08-2009 05:52 PM

i am going to sleep :D

ThunderBalls 07-08-2009 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by br4sco (Post 16044359)
i dont blame you for how u act, i blame the media and this country for how u act . You need to wake the fuck up and get that gangster shit out of your head :2 cents:


Just when I thought this thread couldnt get any more bizarre.

BVF seriously, just call or email the guy, tell him you have proof he made the charge and if you dont have your money within five days all his neighbors and relatives are getting a copy of your site and his transaction in the mail, and make sure you sound fucking nuts about it. You will get your $$.

CYF 07-08-2009 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 15543189)
WHAT law would that be Carmine?

USC Title 18 Section 1030 :thumbsup

EDIT: Just saw that someone beat me to it :1orglaugh

BVF 07-08-2009 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16044389)
checking someone's private email account BAD.

posting about checking someone's private email account WORSE.

posting about not caring - STUPID.

:2 cents:

Realizing that this thread was made 5 months ago AND I'm still here alive and kicking - PRICELESS


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